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General Semantics and Holocaust Denial (PDF. File)
The Holocaust History Project ^ | Andrew E. Mathis, Ph.D.

Posted on 03/08/2006 11:02:16 PM PST by mal

CERTAIN GROUPS claim the Holocaust never happened. Almost from the beginning of the discovery of this widespread destruction of European Jewry before and during World War II, Nazi apologists, anti-Semites, and selfstyled “skeptics” have tried to discredit the accepted history of this period. Deborah Lipstadt of Emory University has termed this phenomenon “Holocaust denial.” While originally an obscure movement, since the rise of the internet in the mid-1990s, Holocaust denial has grown significantly, and new adherents continue to set up web sites dedicated to “debunking the myth.” The upside to the growing awareness of Holocaust denial is that organizations and individuals have taken up the task of preserving the basic truths of the Holocaust, while exposing this period to continuing historiographical scrutiny, thus promoting a better and more complete understanding of the Holocaust.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: genocide; holocaust; holocaustdenial; holocaustrevisionism; shoah
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To: RoadTest

I have a little more sympathy than for the other guilty actors in the tragedy. Many Catholic priests did try to help, and some were very effective. The Pope did try to help some, even though he could have done more, and IMO, has been the target of a smear campaign that's been out to tarnish the rep of the Catholic Church.


21 posted on 03/09/2006 12:13:03 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: RoadTest

"Never forget"

Have you forgotten that the highest ranking Rabbi in Rome at the time was so impressed with the efforts by the Vatican to stop all this that he converted?

Have you forgotten there is a book out by a Jewish Rabbi right now that says this "the Vatican was part of it" hype is false and sings high praises for the efforts by the Pope and many others in the Church?

Have you forgotten that Hitler had the Church on the list as "Next"?

Have you forgotten that many priests were in those camps as well?

You know what you have already answered all these questions, if you but knew it.

I do not have much respect for people who wish to falsify the past to suit their own agenda. I do not have it for Holocaust deniers. I knew people who survived. I also have little time for those who only want to finish what Hitler only just started with the Church.

I see enough roadkill on country roads, I don't need to see it here.


22 posted on 03/09/2006 1:36:40 PM PST by iluvlucy
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23 posted on 03/09/2006 8:41:06 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alexander Rubin; iluvlucy

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24 posted on 03/10/2006 4:03:58 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (The "religion of peace" is actually the religion of constant rage and riots.)
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To: agere_contra
>>>>>Uh-huh...<<<<<

Meet Aloisuis Stepinac, the future Patron Saint of Genocide

In 1941-45 Archbishop Stepinac was a head of Roman Catholic Church in Croatia. Under his watch, hundreds of thousands of Christians have been murdered and forcibly converted to RC faith. Forcible conversions were under direct Archbishop's responsibility. Victims property was confiscated and distributed by an agency of Nazi state, headed by RC Priest (Draganovich). Roman Catholic priests and nuns were busy running concentration camps.

After the war and defeat of Nazism, Vatican help hide Nazi war criminals and spiriting them out to South America to flee from justice. The enire Croatian Nazi loot from murdered was held in Vatican. Stepinac was elevated to the rank of Cardinal, and beatified by JPII.

This is not RC bashing, this is historical fact. Denying it is holocaust denial.

Planned sainthood for someone who breached The Canon of RC Church is the most telling.

One can only imagine the conversation between St. Augustin, St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Aloisius.

Uh-huh...

25 posted on 03/10/2006 7:40:25 AM PST by DTA (never forget !)
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To: mal; SJackson; dennisw
>>>>>Deborah Lipstadt of Emory University has termed this phenomenon “Holocaust denial.”<<<<<<<<

Holocaust denial is only one segment of Nazi revisionism. The others are Holocaust Diminishing (It happened, but it was not 6 milion, maybe 600,000 or one million, two million tops") and Holocaust awareness dilution.

Lowlifes of Stormfront type are not the main problem because they are ignored by the mainstream media.

The problem are eloquent, educated who have full access to the mass media.

Dilution of awareness is acheived by robbing the terms of their meaning. One can often say liberals and leftists ranting about "Israeli Nazis", "Polish Death Camps" and the like. The very word "holocaust" is used for everything, even colloquially (we had a holocaust, our budget proposal was rejected")

Stupid Nazi revisionists are deniers. Smarter are Diminishers. The most vicious are diluters.

Diluters have access to PR agencies and media and their views shape public opinion. One diluter is worth more than thousand Stormfront skinheads.

The damage to the memory of the dead is immesurable. They erase it effectively with various propaganda techniques, that are not obvious. Stupid Nazi revisionists often get arrested because of the violent acts. Smarter ones got arrested for spreading hate speech and denial (Zundel, Irving). The smartest ones never get arrested. They profit.

Here are three examples how diluters work. During Bosnia civil war, the headlines screaming "Belsen" and fake photos

appeared in British papers. The name Belsen was chosen because over 50% of British adult population has NEVER heard of Auschwitz.

The implication is clear. If Belsen 92 was fake, so was Belsen 42. The circulation surpassed anything Nazi types in dark alleys or internet can disseminate. Clear win for Nazi side.

During Kosovo campaign, the stories of fake incinerations of corpses in alleged Trepca smelter, were widely circulated in European and American press.

Daily Mirror published without blinking: “Trepca—the name will live alongside those of Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka,”

Trepca was a fraud. And people read it without blushing, or protesting. If the name of the fraudulent crematoria live alngside those of Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka, implication is clear- Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka are also fraud.

Last but not least, go to GOOGLE search engine and type BELSEN and see how many hits you will get. (641,000 when I checked), , Belzec (227,000) Majdanek(240,000),Mauthousen (80), Ravensbruck (398,000), Sobibor (366,000), Treblinka (510,000)

Then, repeat the search for Srebrenica.

The lie about Srebrenica is earmarked to become the symbol of genoicide. It already casts the shadow over Holocaust extermination truth by sheer volume displacement.

One may ask, who are the Diluters and what steps ADL, USHMM are taking to stop them.

The answer to this question is long due.

26 posted on 03/10/2006 8:38:55 AM PST by DTA (never forget !)
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To: DTA
“Holocaust denial is only one segment of Nazi revisionism. The others are Holocaust Diminishing (It happened, but it was not 6 milion, maybe 600,000 or one million, two million tops") and Holocaust awareness dilution.”

BINGO
I agree. I have a way of saying this very thing. I call it Holocaust denial by degree. You know the drill.

Stage one:
“Well………. It wasn’t 6 million it was only 5 million tops….if that.”

Stage two:
“Oh yes I agree it happened but not by that many. Oh I don’t know maybe 4 million at the tops”

Stage three:
“Look it wasn’t 4 million it was half that at the most.”

Stage four:
“Holocaust? Oh that is just a plot by the Jews to milk money. Maybe 1 million died if even that”

Stage five:
“What Holocaust? Show me the Holocaust.”

Stage six
Problem solved

These guys are even bigger liers than the Holocaust deniers. Never trust them because truth is not a priority to them.
27 posted on 03/10/2006 6:22:42 PM PST by iluvlucy
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