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Three cosmic enigmas, one audacious answer [bye-bye to black holes?]
New Scientist ^ | March 9, 2006 | Zeeya Merali

Posted on 03/09/2006 8:34:42 PM PST by snarks_when_bored

Three cosmic enigmas, one audacious answer
09 March 2006
Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition
Zeeya Merali

DARK energy and dark matter, two of the greatest mysteries confronting physicists, may be two sides of the same coin. A new and as yet undiscovered kind of star could explain both phenomena and, in turn, remove black holes from the lexicon of cosmology.

The audacious idea comes from George Chapline, a physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, and Nobel laureate Robert Laughlin of Stanford University and their colleagues. Last week at the 22nd Pacific Coast Gravity Meeting in Santa Barbara, California, Chapline suggested that the objects that till now have been thought of as black holes could in fact be dead stars that form as a result of an obscure quantum phenomenon. These stars could explain both dark energy and dark matter.

This radical suggestion would get round some fundamental problems posed by the existence of black holes. One such problem arises from the idea that once matter crosses a black hole's event horizon - the point beyond which not even light can escape - it will be destroyed by the space-time "singularity" at the centre of the black hole. Because information about the matter is lost forever, this conflicts with the laws of quantum mechanics, which state that information can never disappear from the universe.

Another problem is that light from an object falling into a black hole is stretched so dramatically by the immense gravity there that observers outside will see time freeze: the object will appear to sit at the event horizon for ever. This freezing of time also violates quantum mechanics. "People have been vaguely uncomfortable about these problems for a while, but they figured they'd get solved someday," says Chapline. "But that hasn't happened and I'm sure when historians look back, they'll wonder why people didn't question these contradictions."

While looking for ways to avoid these physical paradoxes, Chapline and Laughlin found some answers in an unrelated phenomenon: the bizarre behaviour of superconducting crystals as they go through something called "quantum critical phase transition" (New Scientist, 28 January, p 40). During this transition, the spin of the electrons in the crystals is predicted to fluctuate wildly, but this prediction is not borne out by observation. Instead, the fluctuations appear to slow down, and even become still, as if time itself has slowed down.

"That was when we had our epiphany," Chapline says. He and Laughlin realised that if a quantum critical phase transition happened on the surface of a star, it would slow down time and the surface would behave just like a black hole's event horizon. Quantum mechanics would not be violated because in this scenario time would never freeze entirely. "We start with effects actually seen in the lab, which I think gives it more credibility than black holes," says Chapline.

With this idea in mind, they - along with Emil Mottola at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, Pawel Mazur of the University of South Carolina in Columbia and colleagues - analysed the collapse of massive stars in a way that did not allow any violation of quantum mechanics. Sure enough, in place of black holes their analysis predicts a phase transition that creates a thin quantum critical shell. The size of this shell is determined by the star's mass and, crucially, does not contain a space-time singularity. Instead, the shell contains a vacuum, just like the energy-containing vacuum of free space. As the star's mass collapses through the shell, it is converted to energy that contributes to the energy of the vacuum.

The team's calculations show that the vacuum energy inside the shell has a powerful anti-gravity effect, just like the dark energy that appears to be causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate. Chapline has dubbed the objects produced this way "dark energy stars".

Though this anti-gravity effect might be expected to blow the star's shell apart, calculations by Francisco Lobo of the University of Lisbon in Portugal have shown that stable dark energy stars can exist for a number of different models of vacuum energy. What's more, these stable stars would have shells that lie near the region where a black hole's event horizon would form (Classical Quantum Gravity, vol 23, p 1525).

"Dark energy stars and black holes would have identical external geometries, so it will be very difficult to tell them apart," Lobo says. "All observations used as evidence for black holes - their gravitational pull on objects and the formation of accretion discs of matter around them - could also work as evidence for dark energy stars."

That does not mean they are completely indistinguishable. While black holes supposedly swallow anything that gets past the event horizon, quantum critical shells are a two-way street, Chapline says. Matter crossing the shell decays, and the anti-gravity should spit some of the remnants back out again. Also, quark particles crossing the shell should decay by releasing positrons and gamma rays, which would pop out of the surface. This could explain the excess positrons that are seen at the centre of our galaxy, around the region that was hitherto thought to harbour a massive black hole. Conventional models cannot adequately explain these positrons, Chapline says.

He and his colleagues have also calculated the energy spectrum of the released gamma rays. "It is very similar to the spectrum observed in gamma-ray bursts," says Chapline. The team also predicts that matter falling into a dark energy star will heat up the star, causing it to emit infrared radiation. "As telescopes improve over the next decade, we'll be able to search for this light," says Chapline. "This is a theory that should be proved one way or the other in five to ten years."

Black hole expert Marek Abramowicz at Gothenburg University in Sweden agrees that the idea of dark energy stars is worth pursuing. "We really don't have proof that black holes exist," he says. "This is a very interesting alternative."

The most intriguing fallout from this idea has to do with the strength of the vacuum energy inside the dark energy star. This energy is related to the star's size, and for a star as big as our universe the calculated vacuum energy inside its shell matches the value of dark energy seen in the universe today. "It's like we are living inside a giant dark energy star," Chapline says. There is, of course, no explanation yet for how a universe-sized star could come into being.

At the other end of the size scale, small versions of these stars could explain dark matter. "The big bang would have created zillions of tiny dark energy stars out of the vacuum," says Chapline, who worked on this idea with Mazur. "Our universe is pervaded by dark energy, with tiny dark energy stars peppered across it." These small dark energy stars would behave just like dark matter particles: their gravity would tug on the matter around them, but they would otherwise be invisible.

Abramowicz says we know too little about dark energy and dark matter to judge Chapline and Laughlin's idea, but he is not dismissing it out of hand. "At the very least we can say the idea isn't impossible."

Printed on Fri Mar 10 04:05:28 GMT 2006


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackholes; cosmology; crevolist; darkenergy; darkmatter; eventhorizons; generalrelativity; phasetransitions; physics; quantummechanics
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To: snarks_when_bored
the objects that till now have been thought of as black holes could in fact be dead stars that form as a result of an obscure quantum phenomenon.

Hasn't this been a theory for a long time? I once saw a video of black holes forming at a UC Berkeley physics colloquium. Most fascinating phenomenon!

41 posted on 03/10/2006 5:19:00 AM PST by phantomworker (The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. - Thomas Koenig)
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To: doc30
There's a list of purposes of the LHC in this Wikipedia article: Large Hadron Collider.

BTW, the Planck scale is far out of reach. The LHC is going to be colliding protons, mostly, and their radius is about 10-13 cm. The Planck scale is of the order of 10-33 cm, 20 orders of magnitude smaller.

42 posted on 03/10/2006 5:30:46 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: grey_whiskers

Nice Bosons!


43 posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:42 AM PST by kanawa
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To: zot

Ping.


44 posted on 03/10/2006 6:45:41 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Motl makes many more cogent points than I could have. I suppose it comes of reading the paper and understanding it. <g>

I love the "Kyoto Count-up" feature on his page. Very enlightening. "Every day, we buy -0.000005 Celsius degrees for one half of the LHC collider."

45 posted on 03/10/2006 7:03:10 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Ichneumon; snarks_when_bored
It sounds to me that they're not actually *replacing* the idea of black holes with something else that's not a black hole, what they're really saying is that the physics of black holes might be different than previously thought, especially "inside" the black hole.

From what I read, the idea says that the thin shell of material forms just outside of where the event horizon would be. (This idea, which replaces black holes with objects called gravastars, was formulated by Mazur/Mottola some time around 2002.) If this phenomenon is true, it prevents a black hole from forming, but just barely. The surrounding space-time would still apparently behave just like a black hole outside the event horizon (but there would be stronger ejected matter jets & x-ray emission than in a standard black hole).

I have to honestly say that I don't understand how this would solve the dark matter problem any more than saying it is tucked away into black holes, though. (Primordial black holes would have to evaporate into observable photons by Hawking radiation, whereas these entities don't, I'm guessing...)

Some older links on the matter:

Los Alamos researcher says 'black holes' aren't holes at all

Thick-Skinned Gravastars Vie to Replace Black Holes, in Theory

Is black hole theory full of hot air? (Typically misleading title courtesy of CNN)

Great article, snarks - always fun to discuss true controversies in science.

46 posted on 03/10/2006 7:14:20 AM PST by Quark2005 (Confidence follows from consilience.)
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To: Physicist; Doctor Stochastic; snarks_when_bored
Every week, New Scientist announces some breakthrough that overturns all of physics.

While the UnDiscovery Institute's motto is "Teach the controversy"; the motto of the New Scientist seems to be "Preach the controversy"....

In the meanwhile, I'll just drop this article in my Ipcress File for safe keeping.....

47 posted on 03/10/2006 7:31:44 AM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Ichneumon

that's because historians are pretty dumb when it comes to physics. :P


48 posted on 03/10/2006 7:34:21 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: snarks_when_bored

Sure, the information is lost, too. Black holes are considered to be in a state of maximum entropy. They can even screw around with the baryon number of the universe.

They're mean that way. :)


49 posted on 03/10/2006 7:36:15 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: snarks_when_bored

So we will have wormhole warp drives in a few years?


50 posted on 03/10/2006 7:42:47 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: longshadow
"In the meanwhile, I'll just drop this article in my Ipcress File for safe keeping....."

As Robin Leach might say: "My palms are bleeding and I don't know why!"

(Palms...Palmer...heh heh...)

51 posted on 03/10/2006 7:44:00 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Quark2005

Thanks...and thanks for the links...


52 posted on 03/10/2006 7:45:57 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: razorback-bert
So we will have wormhole warp drives in a few years?

I'll go out on a limb here and say...'Nope!'.

53 posted on 03/10/2006 7:48:01 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
"It's like we are living inside a giant dark energy star," Chapline says. There is, of course, no explanation yet for how a universe-sized star could come into being.

Which could also explain why there seems to be a possiblity for multiple universes. Multiple giant (universe sized) dark energy stars, residing in yet another universe.

Well that's one way I imagine it could be. I'm not quantum physicist, but I did stay at a Holiday......

54 posted on 03/10/2006 7:51:16 AM PST by American_Centurion (Insert /sarcasm where appropriate.)
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To: timer

Hydrinos, sure... right... yeah... okey-dokey....

Wow, this is like debating Ludwig Plutonium from the old Usenet threads.

Oh Great and Knowledgeable one...

Wouldst thou grace us mere mortals with the Schrodinger equations describing the orbitals of these 'hydrinos' so we can work out the binding energies and lifetimes for ourselves? Perhaps you could just give us a list of the constiuent particles of a 'hydrino', just for laughs.

Or do I have to send Dr. Mills a $10,000 contribution first?


55 posted on 03/10/2006 7:59:11 AM PST by Netheron
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To: snarks_when_bored
There is, of course, no explanation yet for how a universe-sized star could come into being.

How about the concept that it has always been? Why must every observed thing have a beginning and an end?

56 posted on 03/10/2006 8:02:56 AM PST by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: longshadow
Of course, you will avoid the problems that beset Dr Radcliffe. (And his hapless bodyguard.)
57 posted on 03/10/2006 8:24:03 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Ichneumon; snarks_when_bored; Physicist; Quark2005
It sounds to me that they're not actually *replacing* the idea of black holes with something else that's not a black hole, what they're really saying is that the physics of black holes might be different than previously thought, especially "inside" the black hole.

The article says:

The team's calculations show that the vacuum energy inside the shell has a powerful anti-gravity effect, just like the dark energy that appears to be causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate. Chapline has dubbed the objects produced this way "dark energy stars".

Though this anti-gravity effect might be expected to blow the star's shell apart, calculations by Francisco Lobo of the University of Lisbon in Portugal have shown that stable dark energy stars can exist for a number of different models of vacuum energy. What's more, these stable stars would have shells that lie near the region where a black hole's event horizon would form ...

Presumably (I'm operating with very little info) this anti-gravity effect would prevent the singularity which is supposed to be at the center of black holes. Otherwise, they'd be similar objects, except for the subtle effects at the horizon, which might be observable.
58 posted on 03/10/2006 8:34:24 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Netheron
Ludwig Plutonium

Is this another name for Archimedes Plutonium?

59 posted on 03/10/2006 9:08:47 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American

Its his earlier one. He was Ludwig in his early posts before he changed it to Archimedes.


60 posted on 03/10/2006 9:12:07 AM PST by Netheron
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