Posted on 03/14/2006 5:58:55 PM PST by Louisiana
Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?
Consider this:
Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co - exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.
Unfortunately no. If they are devout they would have to follow the Koran and the Mullahs.
If they are not devout then the answer is yes.
Muslims can be good neighbors, as many Muslims in the US, UK, and elsewhere who have no interest in Sharia or terrorism show."
Anywhere Muslims have became a majority,it hasn't gone good for non-muslims.Are we talking the PC history books?
The first question.
The first question is easy. Jesus.
Islam can head in a different direction in a variety of ways which include recognition that the Koran is a compiled document from an oral tradition that might not be perfect"
Good luck with that one.
"Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?"
Okay, I got one. Why did the chicken cross the road?
...notice how it was pretty much a fait accompli around here that practicing Muslims were less than healthy for us right up until that nasty little UAE port deal was killed? All of a sudden, the globalists are sounding like the democrats.
Whew. This tidbit of information makes everything all better now. One or two centuries should never aggrivate a good dhimmi.
Muslims managed to rule large hunks of India without killing all the Hindus.
What a relief! The Muslims only killed all of the people that they could find. The Hindu's that escaped must be evil.
Because Islam was not always as militant or murderous as parts of it are right now
Wrong. Islam was not as successful. It has not undergone any fundamental change. The Musselmen (ISLAM) was prohibited in the United States for many years. With good reason.
Why do you insist on comparing an ABERRATION of Christianity- like the BTK- with Muslims who would be FOLLOWING THE KORAN if they kill tens of thousands of people?
Christianity didn't TELL the BTK to do violence. Islam DOES.
You want to examine the BTK with his 'religion', yet keep Muslim terrorists apart from theirs.
It is the DOCTRINE that is at fault with Islam. It is the doctrine that is terrorizing the world now, because it's being obeyed.
If someone in my church is the next BTK - he is an ABERRATION and my religion does not condone and applaud him. Show me a cleric that encouraged that serial killing. The world is FULL of Imams who are encouraging 'jihad'.
One does not have to be a Muslim to be a liar- but Islam is the only 'religion' that ENCOURAGES lying.
which is exactly the problem with Islam being so political in the Middle East."
Islam isn't political. Islam is government.There is no politics. Only mullahs saying do it or die.
The only way to change islam is to destroy it.
NO!
Prove me wrong!
Thank you for your complete answers on this subject.
Isolating an entire religion, of any kind, into militancy is never a good idea. I think it is natural to distrust Islam, because of it's fringes. But doing so as a matter of national policy is dangerous.
The middle ground is not easy, but it is right.
And any conservative that dares to question the elites is tagged as racist, xenophobe, hegemonist, isolationalist, and generally bad person. I have become their self fulfilling prophecy, with no apologies. And it gets better (for conservatives) or worse (for globalist sellouts). Let the political bloodbath begin. Depending on the outcome of the political aspect, the literal implications are harsh.
Exactly my point. Thank you.
"The freedoms we enjoy in countries dominated by Christianity happened only after Christianity stopped being a state religion and stopped having a role in governance, which is exactly the problem with Islam being so political in the Middle East."
Very true. Look at a majority of Christian History. All christian governments perverted Christianity, why wouldn't all Islamic governments pervert Islam? In many parts of Europe during the middle ages you could be killed for even questioning assumptions about the nature of god. Christians faught wars with each other, even though they were pretty much on the same page.
It's clear to me that a good part of Islam right now, isn't compatible with our culture. I think the US shouldn't allow Muslims to immigrate here, not because they are all hatefilled, but because a large number are. If just 1/100 of them would blow themselves up for what some nutjob calls their religion , then its enough to bring our nation to a standstill. Its not worth the risk. However to claim all Muslims are bad people is ignorant and incorrect. If I was standing outside your house, and I told you I had a 1/100 chance of blowing myself up inside your house if you let me in, would you? However, if I were already in your house, and hadn't blown myself up yet, would it be right to shoot me?
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