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The Census has grown beyond it's bounds.
Townhall ^ | March 13 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 03/17/2006 9:13:20 PM PST by Jeremydmccann

While the Patriot Act and National Security Agency wiretapping have received enormous attention and criticism from the mainstream media, another federal agency has been quietly gathering far more personal information about U.S. residents than those laws ever can. And this unreported project affects thousands more people.

Our inquisitive federal government has been demanding that selected U.S. residents answer 73 nosy questions. They are threatened with a fine of $5,000 for failure to respond.

When I first heard about this from a reader in Lake Geneva, Wis., I thought it might be a joke or an anomaly. But when another in Ishpeming on Michigan's Upper Peninsula received the same questionnaire, I realized something is going on nationwide.

These nosy questionnaires come under the friendly name "American Community Survey." But this is not a Gallup or a Harris poll; the interrogator is the U.S. government and has the power to compel and computerize your responses. The U.S. Constitution authorizes the government to take an "enumeration" every 10th year in order to reapportion the seats in the U.S. House of Representatives to accord with the "respective numbers" of each state's population. The Constitution thus authorizes a count of people; it doesn't authorize the government to find out with whom you share your bed and board. Beginning in 1960, the 10-year census-taking significantly changed. The government began sending a long form with many questions to a limited number of people, randomly selected, and a short form with only six questions to all remaining U.S. residents.

The government is jumping the gun on the 2010 census, and without public announcement is already sending out an extremely long form, starting with a few thousand mailings each month to a handful of residents in widely scattered small towns that don't generate national media. Recipients can't find neighbors who received the same mailing, so it's difficult to avoid the impression that the project was planned to avoid publicity and citizen opposition.

The person filling out the new long form is labeled "Person 1." That person is required by law to list the name of every other person in the household, giving his or her birth date, sex, race, marital status and relationship. Other people can be husband, daughter, grandson, in-law, etc. Others can also be "unmarried partner" (defined as a person "who shares a close personal relationship with Person 1") or "roommate (someone sharing the house/apartment but who is not romantically involved with Person 1").

Person 1 must answer 25 questions about his residence and the size of the property. What kind of a home, apartment or condo do you live in, when was it built, when did you move in, are you operating a business in your home, how many rooms and how many bedrooms do you have, what kind of bathroom and kitchen fixtures do you have, and what is the market price of your residence?

The survey asks how much you pay each month for electricity, gas, water, rent, real estate taxes, fire or flood insurance, plus six very specific questions about your first and second monthly mortgage payments. There are questions about your telephone and automobile, and about how many months of the year you and others occupy the residence.

The survey then gets really personal, seeking the answers to 42 questions about you and about every other person who resides in your household. Person 1 is used like a private investigator to extract the information from everybody else, and warned that if anyone doesn't want to answer your nosy questions, you must provide the name and telephone number of such person so Big Brother can follow up.

The information demanded for you and every other person includes very specific questions about what kind of school you and each other one attended and to what grade level, what is each person's "ancestry or ethnic origin" (no matter if your ancestors came here hundreds of years ago), what language you speak at home, how well you speak English, where you lived one year ago, what are specific physical, mental or emotional health conditions, and whether you have given birth during the past year.

More questions demand that you tell the government exactly where you are employed, what transportation you use to get to work, how many people ride in the vehicle with you, how many minutes it takes you to get to work, whether you have been laid off or absent from your job or business, how many weeks you worked during the last year, what kind of a job you have (for-profit company, not-for-profit company, government, self-employed), what kind of business it is, exactly what kind of work you did, what was your last year's wage or salary, and what was your other income from any other source.

The Census Bureau warns: "We may combine your answers with information that you gave to other agencies." (Does that mean IRS? Social Security? New hires directory? Child support enforcement? Criminal databases? Commercial databases?)

The questionnaire promises that it will take only 38 minutes to answer these questions. Of course, that estimate fails to include the hours it takes to collect the required information from so many different sources.


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1 posted on 03/17/2006 9:13:23 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann

I was one of those selected people in 2000. My Mom thought the questions were so personal that I should not answer them. I told her it was the government asking them, and they already knew all the answers -- all they needed to do was query the appropriate database at the appropriate agency.


2 posted on 03/17/2006 9:28:02 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: Jeremydmccann
it's = it is

its = possessive form of it

3 posted on 03/17/2006 9:29:13 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: OrangeDaisy
me too. I only answered how many lived here.
They sent a census worker out to get more info.
I gave her the names and ages and gender
She came back for more info. I said no, I'll pay the fine, who do I make the check out to ?
haven't heard hyde nor hair about it since.
4 posted on 03/17/2006 9:32:26 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Caesar Soze

oops


5 posted on 03/17/2006 9:33:17 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann
Yep, American Community Survey has been around awhile. It's like government provided market research - our tax dollars at work.

I got the long form for the census last time, but refused to answer most of the questions when the census taker was on the porch. No one followed up. The Community Survey is well outside the constitutional call for a census. It's just plain government nosiness and profiteering (selling demographic data on the open market).
6 posted on 03/17/2006 9:35:20 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Jeremydmccann


Okay. Big Brother is just getting too big for his pants. So what should we do about it? Let's pants him! But seriously, this is really scary. Are any attorneys willing to sue the government, if this should turn out to be true?


7 posted on 03/17/2006 9:37:48 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: stylin19a

Did it ask if you owned firearms?


8 posted on 03/17/2006 9:41:08 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann

Somebody needs to start a suit and get this nonsense to the Supreme Court post haste.
Let those judges "clarify" what is meant by "enumeration".
Meanwhile, the scumbag government certainly will not get honest answers from me on any such survey. Did you notice that NOWHERE does this article state whether there is a penalty for failure to respond or for responding "inaccurately"?


9 posted on 03/17/2006 9:44:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jeremydmccann

I live in a really rural area and we did not have 911 service for years after the rest of the country. Right before we got the 911 service in our area we got a form in the mail to fill out. The firearm question was on the form. I did not answer it and a lady called me thinking I had accidently left it blank. She told me this was very vital information if LE was ever called to my home. I told her I would not answer that question, and my opinion was that anytime LE answered a call at anyone's home they should respond as if the homeowner were armed and use caution. I also pointed out that criminals were not likely to answer the question honestly if they did answer it so I thought the question had no value. She got huffy, but I never heard from them again.


10 posted on 03/17/2006 9:51:34 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard

This is government intrusion on a scale that even the Clintonistas could not have dreamed. Someone absolutely needs to do something obout this frightening nonsense.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 9:53:07 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/


12 posted on 03/17/2006 9:54:43 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Jeremydmccann

2005 Survey Form (pdf)

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/SQuest05.pdf


13 posted on 03/17/2006 9:56:21 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Jeremydmccann
i don't recall any questions about weapons.
It did ask about medical history of people living here. It also asked about how i spend my money among other things.
It was real invasive.

I remember that it asked about race, if you were "some other race", "Print race below".
So that's what I did. I printed R A C E.

I'm guessing more & more people are going to get this census document.
14 posted on 03/17/2006 9:56:26 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Tammy8

That's crazy! Now why would they need to know that? i tell ya, this big government nonsense is frightening. We need to restore the government to it's constitutional size. For that is the only way we shall ever see constitutional governance.


15 posted on 03/17/2006 9:59:31 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann
The census is a complete joke. In 2000 we got the short questionnaire but that still asks more than the key question so the only answer they got was how many people lived at the house. The other stuff like ages and races (and some of the choices they gave for answers to that I think were just made up, like the multiple subsets of hispanic and I'm not even sure hispanic is a race to begin with) went unanswered. A pair of census "workers" did come to the door but they only wanted to know about the neighbors. I just said I would only speak for myself (and I was at least more polite than the time the UFO cult came to the door).
16 posted on 03/17/2006 10:00:57 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: FreedomCalls

Thanks


17 posted on 03/17/2006 10:01:24 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Kay Ludlow

I got the long form in 2000, too. I didn't return it. Someone came to the house and I told them the questions were too intrusive and they should leave my property. They sent another person out, who threatened me with a fine. I got wiser and told them I lost the form and if they would just leave another on the doorstep, I would send it in. I never did and they never contacted me again. By the way, they told me they already had the names of those living in our home, supplied without my knowledge by the local postmaster (extremely rural area).


18 posted on 03/17/2006 10:04:02 PM PST by Wage Slave
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To: Jeremydmccann
My (now deceased) father in law used to get long, messy forms from Uncle Sam to fill out about his farm.

I asked if he filled them out - his reply was a classic - Anytime I get something from the government I open it and look for a check. No check - I use the paper to start my wood stove, saves a bundle on kindling.
19 posted on 03/17/2006 10:08:29 PM PST by ASOC (Choosing between the lesser of two evils, in the end, still leaves you with - evil.)
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To: ASOC

LOL.


20 posted on 03/17/2006 10:10:11 PM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann

The government has been asking similar questions on the census for decades, it's not a new thing.In 1850 they started to enumerate members of the household individually instead of just head of household and age groups. Employment status, type of employment, medical questions, age at marriage, number of kids, year of immigration,parents birthplace, primary language, race, education, ownership of home, etc. I use the census for genealogy purposes, and am grateful for the insight it has given me into the lives of my ancestors. I have been able to use the census to find family graves, and reconnect with living family members. What I really get a little peeved at is when the questions were pretty obviously not answered by the family, likely a neighbor, who "guesstimated" the answers. 1900 is my favorite census, I get a birth month with that one. Of course, I have some ancestors who shared the sentiments of many on this thread, didn't trust the census enumerators or government, so would tend to disappear on census. Or lie. Which has caused me a lot of genealogy hair-pulling. Just thought to put a different perspective on all those snoopy questions.


21 posted on 03/17/2006 10:27:50 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: stylin19a

At the school my children went I marked other for race and put human in the line.


22 posted on 03/17/2006 10:28:25 PM PST by the_daug
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To: the_daug

beeeeeutiful !


23 posted on 03/17/2006 10:30:00 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Jeremydmccann
This is government intrusion on a scale that even the Clintonistas could not have dreamed. Someone absolutely needs to do something obout this frightening nonsense.

Never fear! All we have to do is get Republicans, the party of limited governor and self-empowerment, in control of the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, then all will be well! Err...wait

24 posted on 03/17/2006 11:31:23 PM PST by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: stylin19a
I only answered how many lived here.

We did the same thing..never heard anything. My guess is that a publicity firestorm would ensue if the the information gathering aspect of the census were enforced.

25 posted on 03/18/2006 1:05:52 AM PST by Banjoguy (I refuse to 'Google' anything at anytime.)
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To: Jeremydmccann

I got the ACS, and didn't fill it out. They sent someone out to bug me for about 2 months. They kept calling and threatened me with the fines. I told them to go piss off. They did nothing, that was over a year and half ago.


26 posted on 03/18/2006 1:14:34 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; ...
how do you like the smaller less intrusive governemt the last 5 years have been great havent they ?

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

27 posted on 03/18/2006 1:56:10 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Jeremydmccann

I got one of those once and threw it away. They sent me several letters saying I needed to fill it out. I threw them away.

Finally they started calling. I ignored their calls until I picked up the phone without letting the answering machine screen the call because I was expecting a call from a friend and they were on the line.

The woman said I needed to send in my survey. I told her I had no intention of sending it. She asked me to talk to the supervisor. I told the supervisor that I don't answer surveys. She said; "But this is for the government." I told her I didn't care who it was for, I didn't answer surveys. After about 5 min she said OK but because it was computerized I’d keep getting forms for a few months.

They sent out a few more letters and I never heard from them again.

In 2000 I got a long form and only answered how many people were in the family. For a few months people came knocking on the door at different hours now and then and I never answered it if I looked out and didn't know the person. That harassment stopped after a time and I have yet to fill out a more than the number of people in my family.


28 posted on 03/18/2006 2:16:35 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Kay Ludlow
I got this American Community Survey last year. I put it directly into the garbage. The government has no business knowing the answers to the questions in that survey.

A few months later I get a phone call from the "Census Bureau" (probably a contracted company) asking why I did not fill out the form. I told them the Constitution only requires a census every 10 years and only for the purposes of counting heads. They proceeded to get nasty telling me it was the against the law NOT to fill out the survey and threatened a monetary fine. I told them to "roll the dice" to see how far they get before I lawyer up. I never heard from the jackas%es again.

It sounded to me as if a contracted company was doing the calling. Maybe they get paid for the amount of surveys they retrieve and thus the threats. Anyway, I want the rest of you to be prepared for the call if you receive the survey.
29 posted on 03/18/2006 2:20:17 AM PST by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: Jeremydmccann

Yes, this is the "tip of the iceberg". There is a large array of surveys that has been growing in number and complexity for many decades (i.e., it didn't start with Bush, or Clinton, or any of the latest bugaboos of one or the other of the "big tent" parties).

http://www.census.gov/econ/overview/FORMSNDX.HTM

http://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_lva=&p_li=&p_page=1&p_new_search=1&p_search_text=Household%20surveys

In some ways, the surveys are LESS intrusive now than they have been in the past. For example, until the 1930's, there was a decennial census of religion.
http://www.thearda.com/Archive/ChMember.asp

http://www.thearda.com/Archive/Files/Descriptions/1936CENSCT.asp

Whereas now, such collection, at least on a "mandatory" basis, is deemed illegal:

Information on religion
Question
Information on religion

Answer
The U.S. Census Bureau does not collect data on religious affiliation in its demographic surveys or decennial census. Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious affiliation on a mandatory basis; in some person or household surveys, however, the U.S. Census Bureau may collect information about religious practices, on a voluntary basis. Therefore, the U.S. Census Bureau is not the source for information on religion, nor is the Census Bureau the source for information on religious affiliation. Some statistics on religion can be found in the Statistical Abstract of the United States, Section 1, Population. In addition, we do provide a list of contacts for further assistance regarding religious information.

We do publish economic data on Religious Organizations down to the county and ZIP Code level in the County Business Patterns series. Religious organizations are comprised of (1) establishments primarily engaged in operating religious organizations, such as churches, religious temples, and monasteries and/or (2) establishments primarily engaged in administering an organized religion or promoting religious activities. Additionally, the County Business Patterns series provides data on used merchandise stores that are operated by religious organizations.

http://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=29&p_created=1074732806&p_sid=HFhBzM2i&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MTE2JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1Ib3VzZWhvbGQgc3VydmV5cw**&p_li=&p_topview=1


30 posted on 03/18/2006 2:42:49 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Wage Slave

I got the long form and didn't send it in too. When they came to my house to ask about it, I looked them in the eye, and said, "Two." When she asked what I meant by that, I said, "The Constitution requires me to tell you 'two' and nothing more. That's how many people live here."


31 posted on 03/18/2006 3:05:36 AM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: Jeremydmccann
Article is riddled with some pretty hilarious misconceptions:

They are threatened with a fine of $5,000 for failure to respond.

It's $500 and never, ever enforced.

starting with a few thousand mailings each month to a handful of residents in widely scattered small towns that don't generate national media.

It's being done in the entire country including cities and suburbs. It's not targeted at "widely scattered small towns."

it's difficult to avoid the impression that the project was planned to avoid publicity and citizen opposition.

ROFL...the reason there hasn't been any publicity is there's no budget for the usual sorts of TV advertisements you see prior to a decennial census, not some evil plot to avoid publicity.

The Census Bureau warns: "We may combine your answers with information that you gave to other agencies." (Does that mean IRS? Social Security? New hires directory? Child support enforcement? Criminal databases? Commercial databases?)

I'm a bit dubious of this and I have no idea where this info is supposedly from. And INDVIDUAL data on people from the Census is COMPLETELY unavaliable to ANY other government agency. Including the FBI (they've tried a couple times and been shot down in the courts) and the IRS. You could send in the form with your name being Osama Bin Laden and occupation as Professional Terrorist and nothing would happen to you.

What IS avaliable is stuff like the AVERAGE income in a town or the AVERAGE time to drive to work, etc.

32 posted on 03/18/2006 3:18:08 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: F. dAnconia

There's no contracted company. It's all Census. They have a call center in Indiana that's Census operated.


33 posted on 03/18/2006 3:20:58 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

Yep, actually the questions on the long form (the ACS is REPLACING the long form, nobody will get those in 2010) have been REDUCED.


34 posted on 03/18/2006 3:22:05 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
Thanks Strategerist, I did not know that about the call center.

In retrospect that ticks me off even more now....If they are federal employees then they should extend some freaking courtesy when they talk to me. I can understand that kind of tone coming from a $4/hr telemarketers...but NEVER from a public servant.
35 posted on 03/18/2006 3:28:59 AM PST by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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To: Jeremydmccann

Since this silly crap started I have been pinged twice. I did not answer the nosey buggers and have never heard anything more from them. Perhaps the hungry cougar, rattle snakes and 18 pit bulls in the drive have something to do with that.


36 posted on 03/18/2006 3:50:59 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: F. dAnconia

Eh, they're not paid that much themselves, I'm sure.


37 posted on 03/18/2006 3:58:30 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Jeremydmccann

I wish Republicans were in charge. This would stop!


38 posted on 03/18/2006 6:48:12 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Jeremydmccann
Prediction: " The census takers will be armed, and you will have to 'voluntarily comply' with all questions or be escorted to prison. "
But that won't happen until the government is sure they have the resources to imprison the large number of people that they have to throw in jail.
39 posted on 03/18/2006 6:57:04 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Jeremydmccann
Early census questions.

From the 1860:

The Census of 1860:

Schedule 1. Free Inhabitants in _________, in the County of ________, State of _________, enumerated by me, on the _____ day of ___________, 1860. ___________________, Ass’t. Marshal.

1. Dwelling houses and number in order of visitation.
2. Families numbered in the order of visitation.
3. The name of every person whose usual place of abode on the 1st day of June, 1860, was in this family.

Description:
4. Age.
5. Sex.
6. Color – White, black, or mulatto.
7. Profession, occupation, or trade of each person, male or female, over 15 years of age.

Value of real estate owned:
8. Value of real estate.
9. Value of personal estate.
10. Place of birth, naming the state, territory, or country.
11. Married within the year.
12. Attended school within the year.
13. Persons over 20 years of age who can not read and write.
14. Whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper or convict.

Schedule 2. Slave Inhabitants in _________, in the County of ________, State of _________, enumerated by me, on the _____ day of ___________, 1860. ___________________, Ass’t. Marshal.

1. Names of slave owners.
2. Number of slaves.

Description:
3. Age.
4. Sex.
5. Color.
6. Fugitives from the state.
7. Number manumitted.
8. Deaf and dumb, blind, insane, or idiotic.
9. Number of slave houses.

40 posted on 03/18/2006 6:59:15 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: stylin19a
"haven't heard hyde nor hair about it since. "

Same here my friend. The long form got sent back with only 3 people listed at the address. I received a phone call from some government douche bag demanding I give them the rest of the information. I told her the Constitution only requires the number of people and hung up. Never heard another word.

41 posted on 03/18/2006 7:06:53 AM PST by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

The info on those early censuses (censii?) is invaluable to genealogy enthusiasts like me becaue it was asked of every person. However, what they are doing today is more like a statistical survey since the questions are only asked of ?randomly? selected people. I doubt that it will ever be printed on the detailed census information that is released after 70 years.


42 posted on 03/18/2006 7:09:32 AM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
Since 1790, the census has asked age, sex, and race questions. Before 1870, they also wanted to know how many slaves were in the household.

After 1850, the census had the occupation of at least the head of household.

In 1900, they asked how many years each person had been married, month and year of birth for each person, how many children each married woman had given birth to and how many of those children were still living.

Very useful information for genealogists, although the data isn't made public for at least 70 years (you can see the 1930 census now, and possibly find your parents or grandparents on it.)

43 posted on 03/18/2006 7:12:44 AM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Jeremydmccann

If you look at the last census form I filled out I'm a single, hispanic, High school dropout, buddist, union worker making $275,000 a year. They can ask all the questions they want....


44 posted on 03/18/2006 7:16:17 AM PST by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Amelia
Since 1790, the census has asked age, sex, and race questions. Before 1870, they also wanted to know how many slaves were in the household.

That was because originally not everyone could vote, but districts were apportioned by population, with slaves counting as a portion of a person. That was a political compromise to keep the southern states from having the highest representation in the House. The other options were to count every slave (population would be heavier in the south) or count none of them (population would be heavier in the north). To balance they agreed on fractional representation for some.

45 posted on 03/18/2006 11:15:59 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"Deaf and dumb, blind, insane, or idiotic."

Between the NEOs and democrats that should account for most of the population...

46 posted on 03/18/2006 11:19:30 AM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: Kay Ludlow
That was because originally not everyone could vote, but districts were apportioned by population, with slaves counting as a portion of a person.

Right. My point was that the census takers have always "needed" to know more than just "how many people".

In 1790, white people were grouped by males of militia age, males younger than militia age, and females of any age. ;-)

47 posted on 03/18/2006 11:20:44 AM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Caesar Soze
it's = it is

its = possessive form of it

Oh, thank goodness, the grammar police are here!

48 posted on 03/18/2006 11:30:19 AM PST by Mogengator
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To: Jeremydmccann

When I got the 2000 census form, I answered only the first question, putting a large legible 2 in the box which asked how many people live here. This is the only thing the constitution requires. I then mailed the form back to them.

This was followed by visits from their minions whom I refused to open the door for. Finally they went away.


49 posted on 03/18/2006 11:33:55 AM PST by Mogengator
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To: Jeremydmccann

Our inquisitive federal government has been demanding that selected U.S. residents answer 73 nosy questions. They are threatened with a fine of $5,000 for failure to respond.

If you ignore them, they eventually show up at your house.

Once there, it's easy to give misleading and nonsensical answers and to claim whenever asked not to understand.


50 posted on 03/18/2006 11:36:07 AM PST by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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