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Cited as Symbol of Abu Ghraib, Man Admits He Is Not in Photo (NYT caught red-handed in another lie!)
New York Times ^ | 03/18/2006 | KATE ZERNIKE

Posted on 03/17/2006 10:17:54 PM PST by Greg o the Navy

In the summer of 2004, a group of former detainees of Abu Ghraib prison filed a lawsuit. One claimed to be the man in the photograph -- wires attached to his outstretched arms. The trouble was, the man in the photograph was not Mr. Qaissi.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; abusephotos; agitprop; aidandcomfort; antiamericanism; biasmeanslayoffs; bullzogby; deception; fakebutaccurate; hoodedman; iraqwar; liberals; lyingliars; nyt; nytimesbias; powerghraib; propaganda; qaissi; saddamites; traitors; treason; trysellingthetruth; waronterror; waronterrorism; wot; zogbyism
Here's yet another reason why the President should use his emergency powers to shut down the Times and its Al Qaeda sympathizing brethren in the MSM.
1 posted on 03/17/2006 10:17:59 PM PST by Greg o the Navy
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To: Greg o the Navy

OMG! That was not even the man from the photo?! I remember that front page article - I agree that the NYT should be shut down.


2 posted on 03/17/2006 10:19:15 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Greg o the Navy; Howlin; Miss Marple; Mo1



HAR!
Good post.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 10:19:52 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Greg o the Navy
Here's yet another reason why the President should use his emergency powers to shut down the Times and its Al Qaeda sympathizing brethren in the MSM.

There is no need. Losing credibility like a ballon that's been untied loses air is about the worst thing that can happen to them.

4 posted on 03/17/2006 10:21:26 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
balloon, that is.
5 posted on 03/17/2006 10:22:03 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: Greg o the Navy
Well....It was a man....

He looka lika Man...Ya know


6 posted on 03/17/2006 10:22:29 PM PST by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It would help to send a signal to others in the media wondering if they could get away with treason as well! I wonder if they will print this retraction on the front page?


7 posted on 03/17/2006 10:22:44 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Greg o the Navy

Sounds like a John Kerry war crimes story.


8 posted on 03/17/2006 10:24:59 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: onyx

The retraction is not on this Front Page:

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/pageone/scan/index.html

(Maybe tomorrow it will be?)


9 posted on 03/17/2006 10:25:32 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: =Intervention=; adam_az; an amused spectator; bert; BlessedBeGod; BlessedByLiberty; Blurblogger; ...

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10 posted on 03/17/2006 10:28:02 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: All

Nothing would make me happier than to turn on FNC tomorrow morning and see video of troops ringing a shuttered NYT building. The Bonus Video: Punch Sulzberger, Maureen Dowdy and their co-treasonists being frogmarched into a capital treason trial. Fantasy? Yes. But there's no law against dreaming.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 10:29:41 PM PST by Greg o the Navy (America's willing Al Qaeda allies: DemonRATS, liberals & the ACLU)
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To: Greg o the Navy; Liz; Grampa Dave
This week, after the online magazine Salon raised questions about the identity of the man in the photograph, Mr. Qaissi and his lawyers insisted he was telling the truth.

You know you're lame when SALON is catching your errors.


12 posted on 03/17/2006 10:32:17 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Greg o the Navy

once again...MSM provides news that' fake but accurate


13 posted on 03/17/2006 10:32:34 PM PST by stylin19a (Do you still have sex or are you already playing golf?)
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To: Greg o the Navy

It says a lot about a paper when you say you're not surprised a story is false and I'm not surprised.


14 posted on 03/17/2006 10:33:23 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: Greg o the Navy

All the fake-but-accurate-news that's fit to print. Will CBS sue them for plagerism? Ha!!!


15 posted on 03/17/2006 10:33:33 PM PST by Waco
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To: clawrence3
It would help to send a signal to others in the media wondering if they could get away with treason as well! I wonder if they will print this retraction on the front page?

well, sure. and we could lock up everyone who says such things. then we'd have exactly what our enemies want us to have -- a dictatorship.

Demanding a retraction is an excellent idea. Let the readership, let the responsible participants in the marketplace of ideas, including the bloggers of repute who see themselves as saviors of truth in media, call upon the NYT to come clean -- to print the retraction.

Top down solutions rarely work. We've got ourself a war -- let's fight it.

16 posted on 03/17/2006 10:35:09 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: stylin19a

and a late Friday release as per usual with bad news for the left.


17 posted on 03/17/2006 10:47:42 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: clawrence3; onyx
Yes, the article is on Page 1, according to the official "Editor's Note"/correction on page A2:

Editors' Note

A front-page article last Saturday profiled Ali Shalal Qaissi, identifying him as the hooded man forced to stand on a box, attached to wires, in a photograph from the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal of 2003 and 2004. He was shown holding such a photograph. As an article on Page A1 today makes clear, Mr. Qaissi was not that man.

The Times did not adequately research Mr. Qaissi's insistence that he was the man in the photograph. Mr. Qaissi's account had already been broadcast and printed by other outlets, including PBS and Vanity Fair, without challenge. Lawyers for former prisoners at Abu Ghraib vouched for him. Human rights workers seemed to support his account. The Pentagon, asked for verification, declined to confirm or deny it.

Despite the previous reports, The Times should have been more persistent in seeking comment from the military. A more thorough examination of previous articles in The Times and other newspapers would have shown that in 2004 military investigators named another man as the one on the box, raising suspicions about Mr. Qaissi's claim.

The Times also overstated the conviction with which representatives of Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International expressed their view of whether Mr. Qaissi was the man in the photograph. While they said he could well be that man, they did not say they believed he was.
18 posted on 03/17/2006 10:49:23 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: mcenedo
It's a Saturday front-page article correcting the previous Saturday's front page story. We can say a lot of bad things about the New York Times (like how they published a false story to begin with), but at least this time, they put their correction where it belongs - on the same page (front) as the original article.
19 posted on 03/17/2006 10:53:43 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc

I'd like to see if it is as prominent as last week's headline and picture.


20 posted on 03/17/2006 11:05:45 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: the invisib1e hand

I didn;t say say lock everyone up - just everyone at the NYT - or, we could always just use Ann Coulter's suggestion ; )


21 posted on 03/17/2006 11:07:04 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: conservative in nyc

The Front Page scan is up now: http://www.nytimes.com/pages/pageone/scan/index.html

Not as prominent, but I at least like the picture this time ; )


22 posted on 03/17/2006 11:10:44 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

surely the "editor's note" ought get the same presentation (type, square inches, etc). as the original "error."


23 posted on 03/17/2006 11:11:34 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: clawrence3

what's going on there?


24 posted on 03/17/2006 11:13:42 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

St Patrick's Day parade (police or firemen and and cute redhead). Lots of Red, White, and Blue too.


25 posted on 03/17/2006 11:15:34 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: conservative in nyc
Human rights workers seemed to support his account... While they said he could well be that man, they did not say they believed he was.

The NYT could be a newspaper, but I don't believe it.

26 posted on 03/17/2006 11:15:55 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Greg o the Navy
"The paper of record" should be given a prison record.

When can the public start suing them out of existence?
27 posted on 03/17/2006 11:19:55 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I agree with your post # 4 even if i don't know what a ballon is.
Times stock is in free fall.


28 posted on 03/18/2006 2:18:06 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Greg o the Navy

"... and I was wired up and electrocuted."

Hmmmmm... Dead man talking...


29 posted on 03/18/2006 3:08:21 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Tired of being called intolerant by the truly intolerant...)
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To: Greg o the Navy

The Times asked Greg Packer what he thought about Mr. Qaissi's claims.

"I'm disappointed, I was first in line to get "Mr. Abu Ghraib's" autograph. He even signed a 8 x 10 color glossy photograph that had circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back explaining that it was to be used as evidence against the US. I feel as though I've been violated."

30 posted on 03/18/2006 3:28:51 AM PST by csvset
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To: onyx; All

31 posted on 03/18/2006 3:30:03 AM PST by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Greg o the Navy
If it's in the New York Times, you can count on the facts being 180o from the way the Times presents them.

They have long ago decided on outright lying as their business model.

32 posted on 03/18/2006 3:43:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!!)
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To: Greg o the Navy
Doesn't that make the rest of his story Bull crap as well or is it falsified but accurate
33 posted on 03/18/2006 3:43:56 AM PST by usmcobra (I always sing Karaoke the way it is meant to be sung, drunk, badly, and in Japanese)
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To: stylin19a

once again...MSM provides news that' fake but accurate


Faccurate


34 posted on 03/18/2006 6:06:43 AM PST by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: conservative in nyc
Mr. Qaissi's account had already been broadcast and printed by other outlets, including PBS

The defense is that PBS also said it?

35 posted on 03/18/2006 6:13:39 AM PST by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: martin_fierro

Thanks for the ping.

It is obvious that the Publisher, editors, op ed writers and supposed journalists are infected with the deadly Enron Virus.

The Enron virus makes everyone infected with it into complete left wing liars. The Enron Virus makes the senior officers of the infected fishwrap corporations cook their books to de fraud their advertisers.


36 posted on 03/18/2006 7:30:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Greg o the Navy
The owners and other liars of the NY Slimes are in the process of shutting themselves down. Below is their stock chart for the last 2 years.


37 posted on 03/18/2006 7:36:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Waco
What did the NYT do?....

Hire Mary Mapes and Dan Rather as advisors?

38 posted on 03/18/2006 7:38:29 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Greg o the Navy

Besides their stock value falling like a rock, their bond rating may start falling like a rock. Below is a link to a great thread yesterday, posted by ABB.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598135/posts

Moody's may downgrade New York Times ratings (Dinosaur Media Extinction Alert)
Marketwatch.com ^ | March 17, 2006 | Carolyn Pritchard


Posted on 03/17/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by abb


SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Moody's Investors Service on Friday placed New York Times Co.'s (NYT) A2 senior unsecured long term debt, and P-1 commercial paper ratings on review for possible downgrade. The agency said the review is prompted by Moody's growing concerns about the media company's high financial leverage, deteriorating operating margins and weak free cash flow available for debt reduction, combined with concerns over intensifying cross media competition, including the Internet, and growing event risk in the newspaper sector. A multi-notch ratings transition will be considered in light of the company's financial and operating challenges, Moody's said.


39 posted on 03/18/2006 7:39:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Here's a post from the Yahoo! NYT Message Board:

Yahoo! Message Boards: NYT
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NY Times in proper spot in SW Indiana
by: wrathof59 (30/M/Venezuela)
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Sell 03/17/06 09:27 pm
Msg: 9498 of 9500

At the supermarket checkout, in between TV Guide and National Enquirer. I asked the cashier, she started laughing "It's right where it belongs"!

Hoosiers know BS when they see it.


40 posted on 03/18/2006 7:41:27 AM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: Crawdad

The TV Guide and National Enquirer probably have more integrity than the NY Slimes does.

Of course most of us can live out buying any of the three.

However, the checkout lady's comment was great: "At the supermarket checkout, in between TV Guide and National Enquirer. I asked the cashier, she started laughing "It's right where it belongs"!


41 posted on 03/18/2006 7:46:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Greg o the Navy
"I know one thing," Mr. Qaissi said yesterday, breaking down in tears when reached by telephone. "I wore that blanket, I stood on that box, and I was wired up and electrocuted."

Damn soldiers! They should have sent an electrician in to do the job right. He wouldn't be causing this trouble now.

42 posted on 03/18/2006 8:02:39 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Echo Talon
Sounds like a John Kerry war crimes story.

HAR--lemme guess--the memory of that incident in Abu Grahib was seared, SEARED!, into his brain... So as long as this clown doesn't sign the Iraqi equivalent of his SF-180, he might run for president of Iraq someday....
43 posted on 03/18/2006 8:06:19 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky

:) yep


44 posted on 03/18/2006 10:31:33 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: conservative in nyc
already been broadcast and printed by other outlets, including PBS and Vanity Fair,

One MSM outlet makes up a story. Others use the previous as sources. Uninformed Americans believe them. A poll is taken. Bush's ratings are down. The liars seem to win. Let's hope they don't in the only poll that really counts; the election.

The latest issue of Vanity Fair is three-fourths ads and one-fourth anti-Republican diatribes. I can only surmise that all those advertisers are anti-R.

45 posted on 03/18/2006 10:51:07 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: the invisib1e hand

I'd support your point of view if we weren't talking about an entity that is demonstrably in bed with our enemies during a time of war. First Amendment protections cannot be allowed to apply to parties that are so demonstrably working against the very existence of the state.

Considering the damage done by the NYT's revelations of NSA surveillance I'd very much like to see the Bush DOJ draw up a capital case against "Punch" and any other Timesman/woman involved in giving away this particular state secret. Moreover, the time has long since passed to impress upon the leftist journo pack that similar such transgressions will lead to a heavy and possibly terminal price.


46 posted on 03/18/2006 11:45:33 AM PST by Greg o the Navy (America's willing Al Qaeda allies: DemonRATS, liberals & the ACLU)
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To: Freee-dame
That's how it USED to work. Before Algore invented this new-fangled Internet, the New York Times would get away with lies like this all the time. Now, anybody with a computer and a modem can get the real facts and expose their "errors".
47 posted on 03/18/2006 12:17:16 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Greg o the Navy
I'd support your point of view if we weren't talking about an entity that is demonstrably in bed with our enemies during a time of war. First Amendment protections cannot be allowed to apply to parties that are so demonstrably working against the very existence of the state.

I'm talking about the practice of being a crappy, biased, leftwing newspaper, not that of using your ability to gather information to materially undermine national security.

48 posted on 03/18/2006 4:35:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (...a capitalist.)
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To: Greg o the Navy

Fake But Accurate BTTT


49 posted on 03/20/2006 10:48:04 AM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: Greg o the Navy

I know a parent who has a son in Iraq. She said this:

“If they release these photos it will put my son at greater risk. Damn Bush for doing this. We’re no better than the rest.”

She is actually a very hardworking citizen and selfless. It made no difference, liberalism infects all. You can expect the Obama administration to get away with absolutely everything. There is no hope.


50 posted on 04/25/2009 8:07:19 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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