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South Dakota Indian Tribe Will Open Abortion Business if Ban Becomes Law
Lifenews.com ^ | March 23, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/23/2006 4:46:45 PM PST by sgent

Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- A South Dakota Indian tribe is throwing a monkey wrench into the state's plans to ban virtually all abortions in the state. Should the ban become law, one tribe says it will open up an abortion business on their tribal lands, which wouldn't be subjected to the abortion ban.

Cecilia Fire Thunder, president of the Oglala Sioux tribe of South Dakota, says Sioux nation sovereignty means the new ban doesn't apply. As a result, she said she will lead an effort to build a Planned Parenthood abortion center at the Pine Ridge Reservation.

“To me, it is now a question of sovereignty,” she told Tim Giago who runs a web site called Indianz.com.

“I will personally establish a Planned Parenthood clinic on my own land which is within the boundaries of the Pine Ridge Reservation where the State of South Dakota has absolutely no jurisdiction," Fire Thunder said.

A former nurse and health care worker, Fire Thunder is the first woman president of the Sioux nation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; americanindian; americanindians; ban; cultofdeath; cultureofdeath; deadbabybingo; firethunder; lchaim; redcloud; rightolife; righttolife; sioux; southdakota; womanpresident
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To: Dog Gone

"There's no requirement..."

True enough, but from what I've seen in the casinos around here, the Indians get the good jobs (the ones that don't require much work or where they get to be the boss) and the local non-tribals are the laborers. Is being a whore one of the "good" jobs? I don't know.


61 posted on 03/23/2006 7:39:30 PM PST by beelzepug (Kites banned in Pakistan...does anything in Islam NOT involve throat slitting?)
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To: EternalVigilance
eugenicist Margaret Sanger, (Rudy Giuliani's hero, btw)

Citation, please.

62 posted on 03/23/2006 7:44:57 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Sunshine Sister

The only good white embryo is a dead embryo.


63 posted on 03/23/2006 8:01:21 PM PST by mathurine (ua)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor

Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch

The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

As Delivered

Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

# # #

http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html

64 posted on 03/23/2006 9:11:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Okay?


65 posted on 03/23/2006 9:12:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: sgent
The same Indian reservation no doubt, that voted for Timmy Johnson!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

66 posted on 03/23/2006 9:15:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The same Indian reservation no doubt, that voted for Timmy Johnson!

They had Indians voting for Johnson who saw Lewis and Clark pass throught the state...

67 posted on 03/23/2006 9:20:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Well the may be for some nations. But not for all.


68 posted on 03/23/2006 9:54:44 PM PST by Revel
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To: The Red Zone

I am sure that like gambling, that was listed in their treaty, and part of their heritage.


69 posted on 03/23/2006 10:04:06 PM PST by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: sgent

What is that old saying "The only good Indian is a .............." SARCASM


70 posted on 03/23/2006 10:06:24 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


71 posted on 03/23/2006 10:26:49 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Hildy
EGD: Hildy is hopelessly in love with abortion as a secularist "sacrament" but Bingo is a widely Catholic source of revenue (the Catholic Church at play). If necessary, we will canonize the original Black Elk (who spent his last 30 years as a Catholic lay missionary to the Lakota), create St. Black Elk's Catholic Church and School adjacent to the Pine Hills Reservation, do bingo seven nights a week, and get the left-wing tribal leaders out of the bingo business and then out of the corrupt politics business. BTW, Russell Means is verrrrry pro-life as to the babies, in spite of his left wing past. He is now a libertarian pro-lifer.

We also get to tell Uncle Tonucci (pronounced Ta-nooch) that he either gets out of the business of providing technical assistance to the tribal gaming operation or we excommunicate his grandchildren and stop praying for the souls of his grandparents.

The original Black Elk (who fought as a warrior at Little Big Horn and then became a pagan shaman and then) converted to Catholicism in the World War I period which was never noted by the Congregationalist or Unitarian or atheist Harvard professor who interviewed him for the widely known distortion of a book known as Black Elk Speaks. The original Black Elk had many children. Some of his daughters were STILL alive in the 1990s to praise a major biography which set his record straight.

Next, we will split the Oglala subtribe by forming a Black Elk subsubtribe, getting GOP Congressional recognition, and take over the slots and the tables, the untaxed cigarettes and booze sales. We don't want this stuff near schools. That would be as the Buffalo (NY) don (a sort of tribal chieftain of the Sicilian tribe) said, an infamita (Godfather, The, 1972, scene of meeting in bank boardroom after partial recovery of Don Vito).

Then we re-establish office of tribal CHIEF of Oglala nation and subnations, depose Cecilia Fire Thunder as "President." President????? of Oglala Nation???????? and restore 'em traditional male power structure in tribe. Abort 'em Planned Barrenhood on sight retroactively. Likewise meshugganah (Lakota term favored by Jackie Mason of Catskills subtribe) nancyboys. Other lifestyle leftists get 'em same treatment. Tradition! Tradition! Ohhhh, Tradition! (Fiddler on the Roof).

If Hildy can claim to be conservative despite her enthusiasm for abortion, we can keep 'em our sense of humor about us as well.

Dan, may God bless you and yours.

72 posted on 03/24/2006 2:28:16 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: pogo101

That be 'em BIG NOOOOO. Good for them that Crazy Horse has passed or Cecilia Fire Thunder be mere ugggggly memory.


73 posted on 03/24/2006 2:31:14 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: billbears

which is why it can't be left to the states when all is said and done.


74 posted on 03/24/2006 2:33:28 AM PST by balch3
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To: EternalVigilance; sittnick
Black Elk to, ummmm, Rescue (Operation Rescue, that is) of Lakota people and Lakota papooses. Save em white eyes' papooses too! And any other papooses three!

May God bless you and yours, my old FRiend!

75 posted on 03/24/2006 2:36:14 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: beelzepug

No need to get personal!


76 posted on 03/24/2006 2:41:54 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: TexConfederate1861

Ahem, see here!


77 posted on 03/24/2006 2:42:28 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: balch3

But when people say they want "Roe v. Wade overturned", that's exactly what they're going to get - individual states making individual decisions.


78 posted on 03/24/2006 2:44:52 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: EternalVigilance
As the ancient screen actor Paul Muni said: Is this the end of RICO????? (errrr, Rudy????)

A verrry good time travel movie could be made about..... NARAL and Rudy falling into the hands of Jonathan Edwards or other early Yale religious leaders. Make 'em Geronimo look like humanitarian peace creep.

79 posted on 03/24/2006 2:48:04 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

"As the ancient screen actor Paul Muni said: Is this the end of RICO?????"

Too ancient to be remembered accurately, apparently, since it was Edward G. Robinson in "Little Caesar".


80 posted on 03/24/2006 2:49:51 AM PST by linda_22003
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