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Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website about Iraqi Pre-War Document ^ | March 25 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:28:53 AM PST by jveritas

Document CMPC-2004-000404 dated 2001 indicates that Saddam Regime still has an Active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base. In fact the first page of the document lists the results “open tournament” i.e. “open training tournament” for the members of the Chemical Platoon. Page 8 and Page 9 show tables that list the status of “Specialized Vehicles” used by the Chemical Platoon. On the top of Page 9 the year 2001 is shown and this prooves that this document was written in 2001. Also page 8 and page 9 show the name and signature of the same guy who is the Commander of the Chemical Platoon at Al Qadisia Air Base, his name is Captain is Mohamad Taha Hassan. The remaining pages show the name of soldiers and their vacation time.

This document is a clear indication that Saddam never stopped his WMD program at least up to the year 2001 as the document show because there was still and active Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia Air base.

Partial Translation from Page 8 that list a table of the Specialized Vehicles of the Chemical Platoon and its status

The Status of the Specialized Vehicles for the Chemical Platoon the command of Al Qadisia air base

1. The type of Vehicle: Surface vehicle, The Working Status: Working.

5. The type of vehicle: Shower vehicle, The Working Status: Working.

End of Partial Translation

The Shower Vehicle is of course used to clean the member of the Chemical Platoon from any Chemical Residuals.


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1 posted on 03/25/2006 11:28:55 AM PST by jveritas
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To: eyespysomething

More to come.


2 posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:58 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

i clicked on the link to the document, but i didn't see any verification that this is an army document or an official translation there.
do you have some verification?


3 posted on 03/25/2006 11:32:52 AM PST by drhogan
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To: AFPhys; pinz-n-needlez; onyx; ohioWfan; Texasforever; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; ...

FYI Ping


4 posted on 03/25/2006 11:32:55 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: jveritas

Very interesting Veritas. Can you tell if this is an offensive or a defensive type unit. For example, we have units that are for detection and decontamination that would be defensive vs. a unit that would have custody of the chemical weapons and the means of their delivery.


5 posted on 03/25/2006 11:33:42 AM PST by sgtyork
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To: jveritas; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; ...
Fantastic jveritas!

Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

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Documents from the Harmony Database

6 posted on 03/25/2006 11:36:19 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: jveritas

Rush Limbaugh said for the Left this info release would be a death by a thousand cuts....it sure seems that way


7 posted on 03/25/2006 11:37:14 AM PST by woofie
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To: jveritas

i got to the document thru the army intel link that you posted, but i still couldn't find the translation on the army web site.
is it there?


8 posted on 03/25/2006 11:37:38 AM PST by drhogan
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To: drhogan

You mean the Iraqi Army? On page 9 there are the names and signatures of the Chemical Platoon Commander (also his signature on page 8) as well as the Al Qadisia air base Commander.


9 posted on 03/25/2006 11:38:17 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

These Saddam documents just have to be killing the 'Rats behind closed doors.


10 posted on 03/25/2006 11:38:29 AM PST by hattend (Democrats have no grassroots coalition, they have nutroots)
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To: drhogan; jveritas

jveritas is doing the translating


11 posted on 03/25/2006 11:39:01 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: drhogan

No the Army Wen site Pentagan/FMSO did not provide any translation yet.


12 posted on 03/25/2006 11:39:08 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

"The US Government has made no determination regarding the authenticity of the documents, validity or factual accuracy of the information contained therein, or the quality of any translations, when available."

from the army website where it is posted.


13 posted on 03/25/2006 11:39:17 AM PST by drhogan
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To: jveritas

thank!

do you read and write arabic?


14 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:01 AM PST by drhogan
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To: sgtyork
It is hard to tell from this document. It lists the names of the soldiers who participated in the training of the Chemical Platoon as well as list of the "Specialized Vehicles" used by the Chemical Platoon in Al Qadisia air base.
15 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:32 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: sgtyork
Can you tell if this is an offensive or a defensive type unit. For example, we have units that are for detection and decontamination that would be defensive vs. a unit that would have custody of the chemical weapons and the means of their delivery.

Yep, actually militaries all over the world that don't have chemical weapons have "Chemical" units that are decontamination units.

However, I predict this thread will grow to hundreds of replies without anyone even noticing or acknowledging your question.

16 posted on 03/25/2006 11:41:47 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: drhogan; jveritas

ABC News has checked these behind jveritas's translations, and everytime, they say they are right on.

ABC News will have a story on this one in a day or so, they run about that long after he posts one.

You are welcome to join my ping list if you want.

I for one am glad jveritas knows Arabic and can translate these for us on Free Republic. I am pretty sure many others are.


17 posted on 03/25/2006 11:42:04 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: drhogan
Yes my fellow freeper. I am originally from Lebanon, born and lived there for 22 years, thus Arabic is my native language.
18 posted on 03/25/2006 11:42:42 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Thanks for your hard work in translating these documents and then posting your translations on Free Republic.


19 posted on 03/25/2006 11:42:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Strategerist

I do not think that a third world army like Iraq will have an active Chemical Platoon if there is no active Chemical weapons program.


20 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:12 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: drhogan; jveritas

One of the reasons, these documents were mass released was to have a lot Americans who read Arabic to translate and then post their translations on the web.

Thanks to jveritas, we are seeing how that plan is coming together.


21 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: jveritas

Thanks for post. Good news, looks like it will keep trickling for weeks and months.


22 posted on 03/25/2006 11:45:49 AM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: jveritas; eyespysomething

I, for one, am certainly glad y'all are providing these translations and links.

My local newspaper is UNDER-reporting any of this stuff. They did carry the Russian leak news this morning, but anything regarding the AQ and Iraqi connection has been missing.

Time for me to fire off another letter to The Bee editors.


23 posted on 03/25/2006 11:46:09 AM PST by Diver Dave
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To: jveritas; eyespysomething; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Incredible work, jveritas. Thanks for the ping, eyespy!!

HOW LONG WILL THE DINOSAUR-MEDIA CONTINUE TO IGNORE THIS??


24 posted on 03/25/2006 11:46:33 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: jveritas

jveritas...

You ROCK!

More dissemination on the way.


25 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:12 AM PST by GEC
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To: hattend
These Saddam documents just have to be killing the 'Rats behind closed doors.

Which could be why we've hardly heard anything in the news about these documents

26 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:44 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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Kudos to jveritas for translating these documents and posting them.

Anybody on this ping list, who reads Arabic could do the same.


27 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: drhogan

What was your first clue?


28 posted on 03/25/2006 11:48:27 AM PST by Dog (We have had a date with destiny and Iran for 27 years---appealof2)
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To: jveritas

Slovakia, which is a tiny and not particularly wealthy European country, has such a unit.


29 posted on 03/25/2006 11:49:35 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Diver Dave
They will be extremely hesitant to carry the news about the documents that really hurt their agenda: Saddam Regime active WMD programs and his ties to Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
30 posted on 03/25/2006 11:50:18 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Strategerist

Slovekia did not use Chemical weapons, Saddam regime did.


31 posted on 03/25/2006 11:51:15 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

Really very little here. Are you shure it is not a clean up unit?


32 posted on 03/25/2006 11:52:21 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: cgk; GEC; All

Thank you very much; just doing my simple duty.


33 posted on 03/25/2006 11:52:37 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas

I also believe that Saddam wouldn't plan for a chemical attack against THEM...because they know we don't use those kinds of chemicals...


34 posted on 03/25/2006 11:53:03 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Dog
....and Congress is looking for a way to shut us down.

the damn fools WE are our countries best defense.

35 posted on 03/25/2006 11:53:14 AM PST by mware (A teacher of geography.)
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To: bnelson44

The document does not identify what is the exact function of the Unit except it call it "Chemical Platoon".


36 posted on 03/25/2006 11:54:53 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Strategerist; sgtyork

It is a good question and you're probably right about many not noticing it. It is suspicious though only from a standpoint of Iraq having been the only country to have actually used chemical weapons in the area.


37 posted on 03/25/2006 11:55:58 AM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: Strategerist
You may be right, but it may be offensive also. We will have to see as more documents are translated and posted here and on the military's website.

I'm fine with you and other FReepers looking at the other side of the coin, as we have to keep our wits about us.

But as one who firmly believes Saddam had the programs through 2003, I think offensive.

Why else were they hiding Russian and Turkish experts when the UN inspectors did a surprise visit in December 2003?

38 posted on 03/25/2006 11:56:34 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Strategerist

YOur questions are valid, in that this is the type that most certainly will be asked, and need to be answered. It's interesting, according to Jveritas, that names are given as to vacation time, etc. Perhaps these people in Iraq can be questioned?


39 posted on 03/25/2006 11:56:39 AM PST by rightazrain (Link me to some proof so I can put my rumor to rest.)
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To: jveritas

That's ok Veritas. There's a long way to go, lots of data to develop. Just trying to help with military knowledge. Keep up the great work.


40 posted on 03/25/2006 11:57:45 AM PST by sgtyork
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To: eyespysomething
I for one am glad jveritas knows Arabic and can translate these for us on Free Republic. I am pretty sure many others are.

I for 2!

I wonder, for some who are so concerned about "verification" = considering the very great contribution of Mr Truth - jveritas - already, =that stands on it's own -

jveritas has proven himself - let's not shoot the messenger.

41 posted on 03/25/2006 11:59:08 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Strategerist

Oops, I meant December 2002.


42 posted on 03/25/2006 11:59:20 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: jveritas

I can understand what a shower vehicle does but what does a "surface" vehicle do?


43 posted on 03/25/2006 12:00:21 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: drhogan

See post #11/...


44 posted on 03/25/2006 12:01:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: eyespysomething; jveritas

Again, we thank you for your time jveritas.

eyespysomething, please add me to this pinglist.


45 posted on 03/25/2006 12:01:36 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: jveritas

Thanks for the reply. Keep up the good work!


46 posted on 03/25/2006 12:03:09 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Raycpa
but what does a "surface" vehicle do?

remember the panel trucks we found that had all the requisites for a portable chem lab - they were scrubbed clean with bleach. Remember?

These were not underground and could move quickly from one place to another - ergo, "surface"

BUT, said the libRats and their mouthpieces, the MSM, nothing supicious there...

47 posted on 03/25/2006 12:06:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: jveritas; All

Thank you for the time and effort you're giving to translating these doc's.

Proving once more how varied and broad are the talents of FReepers.


48 posted on 03/25/2006 12:06:32 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: jveritas

thanks.

a very useful skill to have these days.

is there any info on how and where and from whom the document was obtained?


49 posted on 03/25/2006 12:06:36 PM PST by drhogan
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To: drhogan; jveritas
I think they were found in a fashion like this:


50 posted on 03/25/2006 12:09:24 PM PST by eyespysomething
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