(Roy) Moore says mad cow timing odd

The Birmingham News ^ | 3/25/06 | Kim Chandler

[Jonas Grumby]

Moore says mad cow timing odd Saturday, March 25, 2006 KIM CHANDLER News staff writer

MONTGOMERY - Republican gubernatorial candidate Roy Moore said Friday it was a "strange coincidence" that mad cow disease was found in Alabama just as government officials want to start an animal-identification system.

Moore is opposed to a national tracking system that would give identification numbers to farm animals and to a bill pending in the Alabama Legislature that would authorize Alabama to start its own tracking system.

"It's a strange coincidence that we have a case of mad cow disease at the same time the Senate is debating this bill," Moore said. "I see this as an imposition on freedom and liberty.

"This is not to track disease. The precept is for tracking disease," he said, "but it will cause small farmers to be run out of business, small animal owners."

© 2006 The Birmingham News

[Calpernia]

>>>Are they demanding that our foreign suppiers tag and database their animals, too?

Yes they are. Matter of fact, this NAIS thing came about from this:

http://nationalpropertyowners.org/nais.html

FAQ on NAIS



Ø Animal Identification originated as a result of the United States making trade agreements with the European Union and WTO

Office of Journal of the European Communities 24.4.8

Council Decision of 16 March 1998: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/dat/1998/l_118/l_11819980421en00030063.pdf

Annex Agreement- Commission Decision of 28 November 2003: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/dat/2003/l_316/l_31620031129en00200023.pdf

Ø All pets must be electronically identified according to our EU/WTO

http://europa.eu.int/comm/food/animal/identification/pets/index_en.htm

Ø The government can hold, seize, quarantine, treat, destroy, dispose of, and take other “remedial action” with respect to animals

US Code Title 7 Chapter 109, 8306.a.1.B,

(more at link: http://nationalpropertyowners.org/nais.html )

[Mrs. Shawnlaw]

Ditto your 'go figure'!
As a goat producer, I try to stay away from Cydectin as its top dog on the market now and there doesn't seem to be anything coming down the pike!
USDA could supply grant money for research into why parasites in goats become so resistant so quickly instead of fascist tagging!
Moore Rox!

[Lurker]

Look up a copy of the Constitution and then point out to me Article and Section that gives the Federal Government the authority to monitor privately owned livestock.

Thanks in advance.

L

[curlewbird]

As a matter of fact, that was the very thing they were there discussing, and they asked that it not be used on goats for that very reason! Too resistant too quick!!

[Mrs. Shawnlaw]

In this Alabama case...

The cow was an older cow, born before 1997 which is when animal-waste product became illegal in the US to be put into livestock feed. ALSO, the cow died at least 2 years ago and the vet just NOW made the test results known in the media.

You can't track down the herd or the line...

Not necessarily true. Many of the cattle are registered and all cattle, hogs, etc, are tagged before they get to the stockyards. The livestock are easily traced back to owners, producers and suppliers. Even if something like pinkeye or ringworm were to breakout, everyone that was at the barn is notified to watch their stock and any others they have been in contact with.

beef industry in Britian was almost destroyed...

which did not have to happen the way that it did. Local magistrates became downright thuggish in snatching away the poor peasants livlihoods. Remember, UK is a monarchy with a socialist economy.

[Mrs. Shawnlaw]

You forgot to post the Rabbits are included with Poultry!

[Mrs. Shawnlaw]

Well, crap, I was hoping you would tell me something different!:)

[Calpernia]

>>>You forgot to post the Rabbits are included with Poultry!

Sorry, BUT I can understand that error!

[Dave S]

Charlie Sheen move over, eh?!

I was going to say exactly the same thing!!

[blam]

"Roy Moore the idiot alert. This is the kind of crap that we can expect from that would be ayatollah. go Bob Riley."

Riley is over in Iraq with McCain and Feingold. No telling how 'polluted' he'll be when he gets back. I'll vote for Riley though.

[pepsionice]

Look up a copy of the Consitution and then point out the article and section that allows the Federal Government to go off to foreign lands for decades and maintain troops for peacetime operations, or perhaps the part that allows for total and absolute embargo against one communist country country (Cuba) for decades yet give special trading status to another communist country (China), or perhaps the part that says that the government can force you to accept a sale of your 200-year old family farm to the local authorities to allow the building of a 4-star golf course, or perhaps the part that allows senators to write special tax laws to give themselves (Ted O Kennedy of course) major tax credits and avoid taxes....or perhaps the part that allows the US government authority to reintroduce wolves to a western state which immedately threaten cattle....or perhaps the part which allows the Federal government the authority to purchase the cheapest flak jackets possible for our combat troops...or perhaps the part which waivers the US congress and senate from indoor smoking rules of DC...or perhaps the one which allows the President to hand over two dozen Cray computers to the Chinese government for "peaceful" purposes (our buddy Bill)...or perhaps the one which says the Federal government is personally responsible for helping folks for every hurricane that comes to the US coastline.

Thanks in advance. Having grown up on a beef farm...I have an appreciation of "pure" beef...which is safe to eat...and having sat in Europe and watched the vast herds in Britian destroyed...I know what will come if you can't say its safe. And trust me...they would readily kill every cow in Alabama...if two dozen cases of mad cow show up there and no one does the tagging method. There are only two ways at the end of the day to say you have a safe beef situation...either you have them tagged...or they are all dead. Thats the only two choices you get in this game.

[AZ_Cowboy]

He shouldn't have alleged a conspiracy, of course.

If Riley is in trouble, it is probably because of his clumsy attempt to use religion to justify a tax increase.

NAIS is a horrible idea for a whole variety of reasons, though. Fortunately, Cal is already here to talk about it in more detail. Hopefully a few of you will actually learn something about what this program means. It will create hardships for a lot of the small-time farmers and ranchers. The current plans aren't likely to result in any increased safety, either, unless paying more for meat makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[blam]

"But yet every single freakin apple, orange, banana, etc has that label that is IMPOSSible to get off! "

A study was done that showed people will pay more for fruit, etc. when each one has a label. No kidding.

[Some hope remaining.]

What, no tags for snail darters?

[blam]

"which did not have to happen the way that it did. Local magistrates became downright thuggish in snatching away the poor peasants livlihoods. Remember, UK is a monarchy with a socialist economy."

What will happen when the Bird Flu gets here. We already know three mammals that it will infect humans, dogs and cats...will there be others?

[NapkinUser]

Alabama is not my state, so I really don't care what happens.

But with that said, Moore is right. These ID programs are bad news. Also I'd find it really hard to ever forgive Riley for that tax increase plan he pushed.

[Clock King]

I'll concede to your knowledge, but...

do you really trust that the government is doing the right thing? That government "experts" will act properly and not use the program to further their own personal goals and ideas?

[BruceysMom]

I googled BSE and found this:What do I do if I ate recalled meat associated with BSE?
The recalled meat (class II from December 23, 2003) is considered safe by USDA, as the tissues that would carry the BSE agent were completely removed at slaughter and not used in meat cuts or products that might have been consumed by humans. The recall from December 23, 2003 was made out of an abundance of caution. If you have concerns that you might have contracted a food borne illness, then you should contact your health care provider.

IIRC you have to eat the brains of the spinal cord to be exposed. Anyone know if this is true?

[ikka]

The NAIS system is a boondoggle already. In Australia the same system was set up, with the promise that total costs would be $3 per animal. Total costs are over $37 per animal.

Read the original USDA docs on the NAIS plans, this is about ensuring the export market is opened for agribusiness and has nothing to do with preventing or treating disease.

[Calpernia]

I'll concede to your knowledge, but...

do you really trust that the government is doing the right thing? That government "experts" will act properly and not use the program to further their own personal goals and ideas?

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Did I post something that indicates I am for NAIS?

This is MY site on my NAIS research from that post about the EU trade pack:

http://nationalpropertyowners.org