Skip to comments.What questions should we ask the RECRUITER?
Posted on 03/30/2006 1:37:22 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1
My daughter is talking to RECRUITER for military service, and we have someone coming by from the Army tonight.
Can you please help me with questions to ask?
We plan to talk to all branches before she decides. Thank you for any help.
I got two words for you.
GET A GUARANTEED MOS (MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY) BEFORE YOU SIGN ANYTHING! ALSO DEMAND A RANK OF E2 OR HIGHER UPON COMPLETION OF BASIC TRAINING!........
Get any promises in writing. Ask about delayed enlistment in order to guarantee training in a desired field. Ask about the minimum obligation for the desired training. Save the Air Force recruiter for last, because that is who she will end up enlisting with. ;^)
"GET A GUARANTEED MOS (MILITARY OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY) BEFORE YOU SIGN ANYTHING! ALSO DEMAND A RANK OF E2 OR HIGHER UPON COMPLETION OF BASIC TRAINING!........"
Ok. I have no idea what that means. Can you please explain.
My husband was in the Airforce, but I know nothing about the military stuff.
Can she get these things right out of high school?
Just like the Badger says, get a guarantee on a job! Only problem is the Recruiter probably can't give that guarantee himself. That happens at a MEPS for the Navy (What I do incidentally).
"Get any promises in writing. Ask about delayed enlistment in order to guarantee training in a desired field. Ask about the minimum obligation for the desired training. Save the Air Force recruiter for last, because that is who she will end up enlisting with. ;^)"
LOL! that is what my husband said. He told her to go with Air Force, but she is checking them all out.
I thought that that was SOP.It was for us back in '69.
My son is in Airborne school right now...He was E2 going into boot, and will be bumped up again shortly...
I helped him negotiate...He got a 40K signing bonus, and 95k for college if he wants it going out the back. On the 40k, they gave him 20k on completion of boot, and he gets a 5k per year bonus for each year he is in.
If your kid is smart and does well on the pre physical tests and the ASVAB...you can demand alot. His pre enlistment work that he did ensured the E2 entry...
My daughter graduated from basic E2 but had some college when she went in. Better pay grade :)
What questions would you have or ask of a college or university?
What questions would you ask of an employer at the interview?
What questions would you ask of yourself regarding what you expect out of opportunity?
Getting a specific MOS does not always guaranty that you will work that job. I am not sure if they still have special catagory MOS's now or not. I always got an assigment in my MOS because of that. Had to fight for it one time, but we got there (they kept trying to assign me to the motor pool or mess hall).
Yes! It just means that she has a guaranteed job traing field after BASIC. Like Electronics or Computers. Otherwise, they'll put her into whatever they feel like they need. Cook, Clerk, Garbage can washer, etc...........And ask about BONUS money upon completion of advanced training..........
I think only the Army will guarantee an MOS.
And Hooah from an Army wife! :)
Excellent advice. MOS is Army, AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code) is obviously Air Force. Each branch has their own. GET IT IN WRITING.
Make sure you ask specifically what MOS (Job) she will get. Don't take the answer, in the Communications Field.
IMO, make sure she gets the GI Bill. She'll have to put money in for it, but I have too many troops who didn't want it when they signed up, then realized they needed it when they got out.
Enlistments are for 8 years. Even if she does only 2 or 3 active, she is subject to recall for the whole 8.
Most bonus' are paid half up front (or completion of AIT)and the rest over a 2 or 3 year period. If she takes a bonus and does not complete her enlistment (except for certain medical reasons) the Government will come back and get that money. You might want to inquire about that.
Makes sure she gets everything the Recruiter told her in writing. If it's not in writing, you won't get it.
Good luck to you daughter.
For a female the Air Force is the best bet, in the Army she will be constantly preyed on by the males and lesbians, while the Air Force will be similar, it may not be as aggressive or threatening.
What are the average fatality rates for my proposed duty?
That's a good one.
Really though, for a woman going in to the service I think the Air Force is by far the best choice.
Lifestyle can be very civillian like.
Work on the base 8-5 and go to off base housing if you can afford it. Can be a whole lot like a non military job.
I love the Air Force style.
I could be very much mistaken,but if you're thinking "safety" for your daughter,think Air Force or Navy.
AN MOS is a military job code. If you want to be a computer tech you need to have the computer tech school guaranteed up front or she could wind up in infantry etc. Recruiters will tell you that people can choose specialties later after boot camp, can and get to are 2 differnt things. Get it in writting up front. Of course you have to qualify for the school based on the ASVAB test. Has she taken this? If not don't sign nothing until you have those scores see waht she qualifies for and then start looking at which service will give her the training she wants. And don't forget the Coast Guard, same pay and benefits but shall we say a different view of the world?
The Marine recruiter will ask her what she can do for the Corps, not what the Corps can do for her.
That was automatic when I served in the Navy about a hundred years ago. E-1 was recruit, E-2 was apprentice, E-3 was seaman, fireman, airman, corpsman, etc.
Is it different in other services, E-1 beyond basic?
It won't matter. Once she is in what will matter is how she conducts herself. If she is hardworking, honest and keeps her nose clean, she'll do great. If she is a victim type, trying to enforce the contract and threatening to call her folks or her Congrssman, she'll have a terrible time. I tell you this as a female who had a great time and was proud to serve in the US Army.
Good luck!!! If you ask me there ain't a higher calling than serving for your country!
Good, that's smart!
What the first guy said - Air Force
Along with getting a guarantee on the MOS, get a guarantee on any additional training such as DLI (Defense Language Institue) if that is the direction she is looking to go in.
Good luck, when one member of a family joins- they all join.
Ask about the Army recruiter about the Warrant Officer flight training program. Unless things have changed she can become a Warrant Officer and a helicopter pilot within a year, provided she can pass the flight physical and the aptitude tests. It's a tough program but very rewarding, of course I'm prejudiced as a retired Army Warrant Officer.
If she ends up leaning toward the Air Force, I'd want to know how the proposed personnel cuts might affect her as a new recruit. Most of the cuts are coming on the enlisted side.
Agreed, Air Force.
Run, don' t walk to the AIR FORCE recruiter.
Having served 10 years in the Air Force I can tell you that not only do they have the best of everything, they also have the best training and jobs that are easily applicable to the civilian world. Navy second, Army third and I wouldn't even consider the Marines.
Try to find a job that involves a technical school longer than 6 months and require the rank of E2 upon completion of basic training. Also ask to see if they are offering bonuses based on specific career fields. The last two are things I wish I knew about when I signed up.
Most of all make sure your daughter knows that it is an honor to serve and it will be a positive life experience that she can use for the rest of her life.
Mike USAF 1995 - 2005
my first question would be "hey RECRUITER, what's with the caps lock?"
Save some time. Naval Aviation.
>>>>"The Marine recruiter will ask her what she can do for the Corps, not what the Corps can do for her."<<<<
God I LOVE the Marine Corps!
Coast Guard. Every body counts more there.
Two words: Army.
GET IT ALL IN WRITING! Don't let them sweet talk with the ole "Oh, yeah, that's not a problem!" B.S.
If it's not a problem (or "guaranteed"), then it needs to be in writing.
It might be different now, but back in the day, all bets were off if we were at war. It was in the contract.
Most important question: "Can I get that in writing?"
Every comment advises that you seek a guaranteed MOS/AFSC. That is the abbreviation for Military Occupantional Specialty (Army) or Air Force Specialty Code. It is the exact job or skill each enlistee is trained and qualified for. I was an air traffic controller in the AF, a very desirable career field. Most of the young people who came into the AF to become controllers had to enter through the delayed enlistment program. Basically, what that means, is if you meet all the qualifications for a particular job then you enlist in the inactive reserve. While in the inactive reserve a person doesn't actually do anything military, basically they are waiting for a vacancy in the technical training school where they will go following basic training. For young controllers, the wait was anywhere from 8-10 months.
I can't speak for anything other than the AF, but if your daughter doesn't want to wait that long then she can enlist with a guaranteed job area. The AF breaks all the enlisted skills down into 4 areas; administrative, electronic, mechanical, and general. If she chooses this route then the AF will not guarantee her a specific job but rather they will guarantee her a job the category she choose. If she choose general she will be guaranteed a training in a skill in the general category only. Some good jobs, some bad, depends upon her ASVAB scores. About.com has some very good info on enlisted job skills for all the branches of the military and will list each AF skill in each of the 4 categories.
I strongly recommend that she pick a specific job she wants and enlists for training in that particular skill. And I also strongly recommend she go AF. That's not just because I retired from the AF but a lot of the training is better (I know that statement will upset many) and the living conditions are better. Good Luck!!
Beat me by a second.
Thank God a lot of good men do!
In '69,during BCT,the Army wanted me to go to OCS.I turned it down largely because of the belief that the average life span of a Second Lieutenant in Vietnam was about two days.
Of course,things certainly might have changed since then.
"AN MOS is a military job code. If you want to be a computer tech you need to have the computer tech school guaranteed up front or she could wind up in infantry etc. Recruiters will tell you that people can choose specialties later after boot camp, can and get to are 2 differnt things. Get it in writting up front. Of course you have to qualify for the school based on the ASVAB test. Has she taken this? If not don't sign nothing until you have those scores see waht she qualifies for and then start looking at which service will give her the training she wants. And don't forget the Coast Guard, same pay and benefits but shall we say a different view of the world?"
I didn't realize she could take the ASVAB before she signs anything.
WOW, you guys are good!
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