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The Tony Snow Show, Friday, March 31, 2006
Fox Radio | 3-31-06 | Tony Snow

Posted on 03/31/2006 5:43:44 AM PST by Bahbah

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To: Bahbah

Ooops, tamper-PROOF ID? I will readily agree that a biometric card can be pretty tamper resistant. McCain is right about that. But anyone with computer skills knows that what one party's security can create, can be defeated by someone else given sufficient time, resources and genius. Maybe you can't compromise the biometric info on the card, but if you get access to the computers that create the cards....John McCain, don't BS a BSer.


102 posted on 03/31/2006 6:24:24 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: Tony Snow
We are no longer the land of open arms.

We have made laws that regulate, wisely, how many of any origin we allow to immigrate per year.

It isn't the 1890's anymore.

103 posted on 03/31/2006 6:25:21 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: mware

Peeps, frogs, you have a mean streak! :-)


104 posted on 03/31/2006 6:25:32 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: LuvyaDubya

I think Kyl and Haworth are GREAT!

Vicente Fox Needs a Lesson in Civility
Human Events ^ | March 29 2006 | JD Hayworth

Posted on 03/29/2006 10:00:34 PM PST by Reagan Man

Earlier this week, President Bush urged that the debate on illegal immigration be conducted in a “civil and dignified” manner. I agree. And perhaps no one needs to hear that admonition more than Mexican President Vicente Fox, with whom President Bush is now meeting. President Fox has made it clear that he has nothing but contempt for our laws and our people. And his remarks have been anything but civil or dignified.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605941/posts


105 posted on 03/31/2006 6:25:40 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: radioproducer
If she's saying the same things when she comes back to the US, then I'll be skeptical too. But I just feel like while she's in Iraq, she probably wouldn't want to say anything too derogatory to other Iraqis.

I'll wait .. but I don't think she'll change her tune

106 posted on 03/31/2006 6:25:40 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Peach

Sometime Saturday night, according to Chasewood North Community Board member Sue Miller, someone put a Mexican flag, like the one above left, on the complex's flagpole.

107 posted on 03/31/2006 6:26:03 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: radioproducer

I will take your advice and hold my opinion till she gets back in the states, but if she goes off on the military or our war on terror policies, then all bets are off! She is then fair game!

BTW...glad you still hang out with us!


108 posted on 03/31/2006 6:26:27 AM PST by LUV W (A free Iraq . ... will serve as an amazing example for people who are desperate for freedom! GWB)
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To: Bahbah
Oh, the poor illegals are vulnerable to abuse. I am not buying what McCain is selling here.

Then stay home and don't get into that situtation

109 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:03 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: kedd
He is just like the worst of the dems, i.e., only cares about votes and not at all interested in what is truly best for the country.

THIS COUNTRY???

How about his own constituents? Do you think the people of Arizona want this? HECK NO!

111 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:48 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: radioproducer

We have a pretty big illegal Irish population in Atlanta too. Go figure.

I lived in NYC in the late 80's. I could tell you of a certain Irish bar on 2nd Avenue where you could walk in an unemployed Irish illegal alien and walk out fully employed, papers in hand and an apartment to boot!


112 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:58 AM PST by Republican Red ("How good is it? Al-Jazeera gave it 4 1/2 pipe bombs")
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To: LUV W

BTW...glad you still hang out with us!


Indeed BUMP!!


113 posted on 03/31/2006 6:28:03 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: kedd

"I think Canada realizes illegals negatively impact their social programs. You cannot get landed immigrant status in Canada unless you can prove you can support yourself and won't wind up on social services."

I remember reading a year or 2 ago that Canada would take any aliens in who said they were seeking asylum and didn't do background checks. This was a concern for us as they could then easily come across our border.

BTW - while you were talking about illegals, don't we have a law on the books, or IIRC we used to have one anyway, that says that a legal alien must have a sponsor and show that they can support themselves?


114 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:03 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Tony Snow

Thanks. I wrote before I heard you ask the question. Don't know how you interview people and read these posts at the same time. Talk about multi-tasking. Whew.

BTW, do we think he will introduce a bill on English being the official language in our life time?


115 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:31 AM PST by kedd
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To: kedd; Tony Snow

On the social welfare component, absolutely. Our problem is our Immigration law is an accretion (like an archaeological dig) of so many conflicting policies over the years about this topic that the incompetent BICE people are just ripe for political manipulation as the Clintoons did. One of the things that would be useful if the Brownback-McCain-Kennedy legislation hits the floor, is that if you could vote on cutting off social services to illegals (except for very limited emergency services), you could start to get a handle on this problem as well as the budget problem. One of the good parts about their legislation is that they ARE trying to take a somewhat comprehensive look at the policy. BUT--I say again, if no one does BICE reform, nothing will change. The policies CREATE as many illegals as illegals sneak over. I REALLY like the TONY SNOW plan. I think it's the best one out there. It combines the Judiciary Committee legislation with an AMERICAN First outlook. If we do that, we will have made a good start.


116 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:35 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Ask Johnny-boy about a comment ED Hill made on F&F this a.m. - They keep talking about 'doing the job that no Americans wants to do"

E.D. made a good point about knocking out the middle class/small business owners

117 posted on 03/31/2006 6:30:02 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Peach

118 posted on 03/31/2006 6:30:21 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: LUV W

Apparently Free Republic is addictive. You guys didn't tell me this.


120 posted on 03/31/2006 6:31:03 AM PST by radioproducer
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To: mware
BWAAAHAAAHAAA! snagged!
121 posted on 03/31/2006 6:31:27 AM PST by LUV W (A free Iraq . ... will serve as an amazing example for people who are desperate for freedom! GWB)
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To: radioproducer

You like us, you really like us! ;-)


122 posted on 03/31/2006 6:31:49 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: Seattle Conservative
don't we have a law on the books, or IIRC we used to have one anyway, that says that a legal alien must have a sponsor and show that they can support themselves?

On an immigrant visa, absolutely. I had to sign my life away for my wife's fiancee visa. I committed that if she ever took public benefits for five years past her arrival, I was on the hook and signed a waiver of collection information for that money. It's a standard form. I have a sneaking hunch it's not being enforced. But it's on the books. That's something which needs to be computerized.

123 posted on 03/31/2006 6:32:20 AM PST by LibertyLee (George W. Bush--now more than ever--an admitted Idol and 24 watcher)
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To: Baynative
Do you trust your own rep., or Senator?

I just stopped laughing. Mine are Obama and Durbin. Need I say more?

124 posted on 03/31/2006 6:32:27 AM PST by retrokitten ("That's my purse!! I don't know you!!"- Bobby Hill)
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To: Republican Red
I believe it, RR! There's an Irish bar on the west side where I bet the bar staff isn't...well...totally legit.

They pour a mean pint though.

125 posted on 03/31/2006 6:32:55 AM PST by radioproducer
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To: Peach

Yes, I heard on MSNBC last night, one of the anchors asked if it had been say, McCain, that walked by the guard, would he have done the same thing...

I knew then, this was setting up to be a "racist" thing..


126 posted on 03/31/2006 6:33:02 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: radioproducer
Actually, Clint, there are 11,000 illegal Irish immigrants in the US. A lot of them live in NY and Boston and other places in the Northeast.

That's not the point. How many Irish protested in the streets with their flags when the congress was debating making it a federal crime enter the US illegally?

That answer is none so it's a non sequitur.

127 posted on 03/31/2006 6:33:22 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: Peach
Get the duct tape ready before you read this. Your head will explode otherwise. LOL!

The Absurd Logic of Reconquista
The other side breathlessly reports on the success of the anti-anti-illegal immigration protests in Los Angeles, here and here (via The Corner). Here's a particularly charming graf from the Aztlan Rising site:

What does the immense success of "La Gran Marcha" mean to Mexicanos and other Latinos? It simply means that we now have the numbers, the political will and the organizational skills to direct our own destinies and not be subservient to the White and Jewish power structures.

They seem to have a particular issue with Jews:

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villagairosa, a Los Angeles Unified School District victim himself before he turned his life around, is already undertaking a bold moved to wrestle control of the district from a Jewish dominated school board and a White superintendent that are just fleecing the schools of much needed funds. School board Jews like Julie Korenstein, Marlene Canter, David Tokofsky, Jon Lauritzen and Mike Lansing are just enriching themselves and their cronies through crooked deals involving school construction projects, and contracts with so called consultants and vendors. The LAUSD is the second largest in the nation, next to New York, with a multi-billion dollar annual budget. It has an overwhelming Mexican and Latino student population. Jews have their own private schools so why are 5 Jews out of 7 school board members interested in governing the school district?

They're also pretty open about who their allies are, and their long-term plan for wresting control of "Aztla" from the Gringos:

A major reason for the great success of "La Gran Marcha" was the strong participation of labor unions and the Catholic Church. This same alliance contributed to the success of Lech Walesa's "Solidarity Movement" in the Republic of Poland. This can be done in Aztlan as well. If the racist "Sensenbrenner Legislation" passes the US Senate, there is no doubt that a massive civil disobedience movement will emerge. Eventually labor union power can merge with the immigrant civil rights and "Immigrant Sanctuary" movements to enable us to either form a new political party or to do heavy duty reforming of the existing Democratic Party. The next and final steps would follow and that is to elect our own governors of all the states within Aztlan.
128 posted on 03/31/2006 6:33:26 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: LUV W
disrespect for our flag, and America-bashing in general, has become accepted as "free-speech".

I've said it before - I believe that we need a candidate who is unashamedly patriotic and shouts it from the rooftops. I think the American people are hungry for it, we are made to feel embarrassed by it by the libs and the MSM.

after the horrors of 9-11, didn't flag-waving feel good and right? how long did "they" let us get away with it before making it un-PC, and why did we let them do it to us?
129 posted on 03/31/2006 6:33:55 AM PST by tazannie
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To: Peach

Cornyn is my Senator and I trust him (as much as one trusts someone they don't personally know,..and even then...)

I also think I trust Sen. Cute as a Button also...


130 posted on 03/31/2006 6:34:50 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Mo1

Yes, she did.


131 posted on 03/31/2006 6:34:56 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
How many "Irish" wanted to enter the United States illegally and then protested why that was OK???

There are serveral thousand illegal irish here

Though they mostly don't protest against america

132 posted on 03/31/2006 6:36:33 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Republican Red; radioproducer

Politicians plead illegal immigrants’ case in US (Irish Illegals)
Irish Examiner ^ | 3/28/06 | Senan Hogan

Posted on 03/28/2006 7:01:42 AM PST by MineralMan

AN Oireachtas delegation is on a week-long US visit in a last-ditch lobbying bid for illegal Irish immigrants.

The US Senate will today begin its debate on the first comprehensive rewrite of the country’s immigration laws in a decade.

Hundreds of thousands of immigrants staged weekend protests on immigration reform in Los Angeles, Denver and several other cities. A delegation from the Oireachtas Foreign Affairs Committee is today visiting Washington to lobby support for the Kennedy/McCain legislation which would allow illegals to stay in the US and work while applying for a green card and eventual citizenship.

Up to 50,000 Irish people are among the estimated 12 million undocumented people in the US.

Labour’s foreign affairs spokesman and delegation member, Michael D Higgins, said: “The Irish affected are forced to live in the shadows. This means that they run considerable risks of a health, social and economic kind.

“They are not free to return home for family events, births, deaths or funerals, and recent legislation has created new difficulties associated with even possessing a driving licence. The current atmosphere in the United States is such that the Kennedy/McCain legislation will face real difficulties. The delegation is hoping to have a number of meetings which would be helpful in this regard.”

The delegation will meet the newly-formed Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform which has been holding well-attended public meetings in major US cities.

The TDs and Senators will also hold talks organisations providing legal advice and welfare

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604615/posts


133 posted on 03/31/2006 6:37:12 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Actually, according to the Irish Examiner, there were Irish immigrants demonstrating this past weekend. It doesn't say if they were waving Irish flags, though, so I will concede your point.

The Examiner also says there are 50,000 illegal immigrants in the US so I apologize.

134 posted on 03/31/2006 6:37:12 AM PST by radioproducer
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To: Seattle Conservative

I don't know if we have the law on the books but it doesn't appear we enforce it if in fact it still exists.

Canada will take people seeking asylum if they can prove they will suffer if sent back to their country of origin. However, they have really tightened up their immigration rules over the last year or two.

We have a home in Nova Scotia and, though we would like to eventually retire there, we will still have to maintain a residence in the US because we wouldn't be allowed to stay there all year round. Mind you, I have no intention of giving up my American citizenship, I just love the sea and Nova Scotia is still very reasonable when it comes to land on the water. We bought our house 18 years ago. It was cheaper than my used Ford Focus.


135 posted on 03/31/2006 6:38:04 AM PST by kedd
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To: LibertyLee

Thanks for the info Lee.

BTW - I'm glad you finally got your wife here! And, it's great that you won the bear to give her!!!


136 posted on 03/31/2006 6:38:42 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Tony Snow; ravingnutter; Txsleuth

Tony -

You may wish to investigate this little tidbit. Credit freeper ravingnutter:

I find this very interesting considering one of the organizations that is organizing the immigration protests in Detroit is ACCESS. Seems their President, Noel Saleh (name found on the "Staff" page) is an ACLU lawyer and supports terrorists:
Noel Saleh. The thrice-disciplined attorney (who was suspended from the practice of law) openly stated at a townhall meeting with federal officials that he has financially contributed to Hezbollah. He heads an Arab welfare agency that gets millions in our tax dollars, yet was raided by the FBI for engaging in Medicaid fraud. The organization also spent thousands in our tax dollars on "job training" (commercial driving lessons and attempts at HazMat hauling certificates) for two men indicted as members of the Detroit al-Qaeda terror cell. He has represented a number of Islamic terrorists, including Ibrahim Parlak and "former" PFLP terrorist Imad Hamad.

Front Page Magazine

Another article:

ACCESS may be the most frightening funder of the conference because its chief, Ismael Ahmed, is running for University of Michigan regent in the November elections. And because American tax dollars fund his organization American tax dollars which he then used to pay for this hateful conference.

According to its latest annual report, in 2001, ACCESS got at least 73.6% of its $10.2 million annual revenue from taxpayers. ACCESS, North America's largest Arab welfare agency, funded commercial driving lessons and attempts to get hazardous-materials hauling certificates for Ahmed Hannan and Karim Koubriti, members of Detroit's recently indicted al-Qaida cell. When confronted by the press, ACCESS chief and Michigan regent candidate Ahmed dismissed their al-Qaida membership as a mere "political credential."

After 9/11, ACCESS organized and publicized in The Detroit News a campaign against universities cooperating with federal agents trying to find foreign students linked to terrorism.

ACCESS, which thinks nothing of funding the anti-Semitic hate conference in Ann Arbor, was paid $1.3m. to provide "sensitivity training" to the Dearborn Police Department, Wayne County Sheriff's Department, and Dearborn and Detroit Public Schools. Ahmed also opposed the Clinton Counter-terrorism Act of 1996 because it prohibited donations to terrorist groups, including Hizbullah and Hamas.

Everyone should be concerned not just with the hate and support for terrorism that went on at the University of Michigan Divestment Conference, but with who is funding it not only those closely associated with al-Qaida and Hamas, but unwitting American taxpayers themselves. Hopefully they will keep that in mind, as they go to the polls to hold accountable legislators who freely gave American tax money to ACCESS, and an irresponsible U-M Regent candidate, Ahmed the man who misused their money to foment hate and support terrorism.

http://www.accesscommunity.org/index.cfm?location=12

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/302

When I read stuff like this, I truly think we're going to end up like France.


137 posted on 03/31/2006 6:39:39 AM PST by Peach
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To: Bahbah
Help me...I think I'm going to explode!

ME

138 posted on 03/31/2006 6:40:02 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: radioproducer

The Irish Examiner also mentions a "huge Irish rally" in DC this past weekend. I'm looking for pictures now to see what they were doing.


139 posted on 03/31/2006 6:40:16 AM PST by radioproducer
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To: Clint N. Suhks
That's not the point. How many Irish protested in the streets with their flags when the congress was debating making it a federal crime enter the US illegally?

They don't protest against America

But they do hold up the Irish flag during a parade like St. Patty's day

There is a HUGE different between a Holiday parade and a Protest Rally against the US

But there are some who want people to think they are the same to make their point

140 posted on 03/31/2006 6:40:51 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I think I'm going to explode!

I think I'm going to have to join you.

141 posted on 03/31/2006 6:41:16 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: mware

LOL


142 posted on 03/31/2006 6:42:59 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: LibertyLee

I'm up for anything that works. However, if we don't get a handle on this we are toast. Last night Howie Carr had a police chief on from New Hampshire. He and his officers cannot arrest illegals. What happens is they pull them over for a driving offense (i.e., dwi) and they say they cannot speak English. Because the police don't speak Spanish the arrest is thrown out by the courts. This has happened so many times the police are giving up on arresting illegals who commit criminal acts. I can't believe this police chief is lying. What the heck do we do about stuff like this?


143 posted on 03/31/2006 6:43:06 AM PST by kedd
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To: radioproducer
Actually, according to the Irish Examiner, there were Irish immigrants demonstrating this past weekend. It doesn't say if they were waving Irish flags, though, so I will concede your point.

I hadn't read that ..

Thanks .. I'll have to check that out

144 posted on 03/31/2006 6:44:32 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: kedd; Tony Snow

This goes way deeper than just "requiring" English and citizenship tests. Who's going to be teaching these classes, Jay Bennish and his ilk.


145 posted on 03/31/2006 6:44:33 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: All
The democrats would never go for "English" only ballots.
146 posted on 03/31/2006 6:45:49 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (She left suds in the bucket, And the clothes hangin' out on the line)
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To: Tony Snow

Wish I could trust the guy the way you do. Maybe he'll introduce it in order to get the conservative vote in the primaries. Of course, when it doesn't happen he'll just say he tried. Man, I'm becoming a real cynic.


147 posted on 03/31/2006 6:46:01 AM PST by kedd
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To: Mo1
There is a HUGE different between a Holiday parade and a Protest Rally against the US But there are some who want people to think they are the same to make their point

Exactly! And it's so frustrating when the McLiam's of the world uses that kind of demagoguery to separate the herd.

(Spits on ground in anger)

148 posted on 03/31/2006 6:46:38 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: conservativecorner

Jewish World Review March 31, 2006/ 2 Nissan, 5766
Wesley Pruden

How to intimidate Republican senators

LOS ANGELES — Intimidation is the name of the game, and this week we've seen some world-class players at work. A few disc jockeys and an army of high-school kids out for a day of hooky made quick work of several Republican senators. March madness, indeed.

If the Republican majorities in both the House and Senate buckle and enact still another amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens among us, as anyone consulting history should expect them to do, credit must go where credit belongs.

Here's the Associated Press dissecting the Grand March through California on the morning after, when it turned out that the spontaneous demos were not so spontaneous after all: "The marching orders were clear: Carry American flags and pack the kids, pick up your trash and wear white for peace and for effect. Many of the 500,000 people who crammed downtown Los Angeles to protest legislation ... learned where, when and even how to demonstrate from the Spanish language media ... they were organized, promoted or publicized by Spanish-language radio hosts and TV anchors as a demonstration of Hispanic pride and power. ..."

Well, they're entitled. Taking to the streets long ago replaced baseball as our national pastime, and the right to demonstrate how unhappy and oppressed you are in the land of the big PX is what America is all about. Gay caballeros want wives who look exactly like them, feminists usually don't want men but they do want abortions, and they have marched through the streets to say so. The teenagers in the streets of Los Angeles want most of all to show their contempt for the law of the land of good and plenty. Some of them are so oppressed they hardly know where to park their cars, recharge their IPods, mooch a six-pack or download the clanging noise that surrounds them wherever they go.

At one California high school they ran the ubiquitous Mexican flag up the flagpole, displaying it above the American flag, which they flew upside down to signal acute distress.

But you might think that members of Congress, bumpkins though many of them are, could figure out just who it is yanking their chains. Some of the Republicans in Congress, perhaps even the new leadership under John Boehner in the House and the old leadership under Bill Frist in the Senate, watch the crowds of kids and see landslides on a Tuesday in a distant November, forgetting that most of those demonstrators either can't vote (tip to the Amnesty Caucus: 16-year-olds aren't eligible even to register) or won't vote (tip to the Caucus: teenagers are notoriously unable to get themselves out of bed and voting gets a low priority when they do).

Nevertheless, frightened old women in Congress see young bodies in the streets and conclude in their panic that pandering in Spanish is the way to go this November. The likes of Sam Brownback and Lindsey Graham, of Arlen Specter and Mike DeWine and the Amnesty Caucus should have no trouble learning the words to the pledge of allegiance to Mexico, the Salvadoran battle cry, and all six verses of the Guatemalan national anthem. But they're forgetting that unless they mollify the voters who sent them here this will be the November of the Republican burial without honors. The Americans who don't count in the Amnesty Caucus calculation are telling the pollsters by margins bumping 80 percent that they want the government to get tough on illegals jumping the line ahead of immigrants who are naive and foolish enough to play by the rules.

The driving force for illegal immigration is a confluence of interests, some worthy and some not. The illegals are mostly good and decent folk seeking a better life — but illegal nonetheless. The unions see compliant fodder to replenish their depleted ranks. Corporate Republicans see a vast and inexhaustible supply of cheap and easily abused labor. Certain Republican strategists think they see an easily manipulated coalition of illegals, resentful Muslims, evangelical Christians and good ol' boys who are poor, uneducated and easy to command.

You can't blame the Democrats, who won't have to do anything but watch, for licking their chops.

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/pruden033106.asp


149 posted on 03/31/2006 6:46:40 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: radioproducer

Hey, I'm in the same boat. I need a 12 step program to get away from this computer.


150 posted on 03/31/2006 6:47:34 AM PST by kedd
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