Skip to comments.The Tony Snow Show, Friday, March 31, 2006
Posted on 03/31/2006 5:43:44 AM PST by Bahbah
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Ooops, tamper-PROOF ID? I will readily agree that a biometric card can be pretty tamper resistant. McCain is right about that. But anyone with computer skills knows that what one party's security can create, can be defeated by someone else given sufficient time, resources and genius. Maybe you can't compromise the biometric info on the card, but if you get access to the computers that create the cards....John McCain, don't BS a BSer.
We have made laws that regulate, wisely, how many of any origin we allow to immigrate per year.
It isn't the 1890's anymore.
Peeps, frogs, you have a mean streak! :-)
I think Kyl and Haworth are GREAT!
Vicente Fox Needs a Lesson in Civility
Human Events ^ | March 29 2006 | JD Hayworth
Posted on 03/29/2006 10:00:34 PM PST by Reagan Man
Earlier this week, President Bush urged that the debate on illegal immigration be conducted in a civil and dignified manner. I agree. And perhaps no one needs to hear that admonition more than Mexican President Vicente Fox, with whom President Bush is now meeting. President Fox has made it clear that he has nothing but contempt for our laws and our people. And his remarks have been anything but civil or dignified.
I'll wait .. but I don't think she'll change her tune
Sometime Saturday night, according to Chasewood North Community Board member Sue Miller, someone put a Mexican flag, like the one above left, on the complex's flagpole.
I will take your advice and hold my opinion till she gets back in the states, but if she goes off on the military or our war on terror policies, then all bets are off! She is then fair game!
BTW...glad you still hang out with us!
Then stay home and don't get into that situtation
How about his own constituents? Do you think the people of Arizona want this? HECK NO!
We have a pretty big illegal Irish population in Atlanta too. Go figure.
I lived in NYC in the late 80's. I could tell you of a certain Irish bar on 2nd Avenue where you could walk in an unemployed Irish illegal alien and walk out fully employed, papers in hand and an apartment to boot!
BTW...glad you still hang out with us!
"I think Canada realizes illegals negatively impact their social programs. You cannot get landed immigrant status in Canada unless you can prove you can support yourself and won't wind up on social services."
I remember reading a year or 2 ago that Canada would take any aliens in who said they were seeking asylum and didn't do background checks. This was a concern for us as they could then easily come across our border.
BTW - while you were talking about illegals, don't we have a law on the books, or IIRC we used to have one anyway, that says that a legal alien must have a sponsor and show that they can support themselves?
Thanks. I wrote before I heard you ask the question. Don't know how you interview people and read these posts at the same time. Talk about multi-tasking. Whew.
BTW, do we think he will introduce a bill on English being the official language in our life time?
On the social welfare component, absolutely. Our problem is our Immigration law is an accretion (like an archaeological dig) of so many conflicting policies over the years about this topic that the incompetent BICE people are just ripe for political manipulation as the Clintoons did. One of the things that would be useful if the Brownback-McCain-Kennedy legislation hits the floor, is that if you could vote on cutting off social services to illegals (except for very limited emergency services), you could start to get a handle on this problem as well as the budget problem. One of the good parts about their legislation is that they ARE trying to take a somewhat comprehensive look at the policy. BUT--I say again, if no one does BICE reform, nothing will change. The policies CREATE as many illegals as illegals sneak over. I REALLY like the TONY SNOW plan. I think it's the best one out there. It combines the Judiciary Committee legislation with an AMERICAN First outlook. If we do that, we will have made a good start.
E.D. made a good point about knocking out the middle class/small business owners
Apparently Free Republic is addictive. You guys didn't tell me this.
You like us, you really like us! ;-)
On an immigrant visa, absolutely. I had to sign my life away for my wife's fiancee visa. I committed that if she ever took public benefits for five years past her arrival, I was on the hook and signed a waiver of collection information for that money. It's a standard form. I have a sneaking hunch it's not being enforced. But it's on the books. That's something which needs to be computerized.
I just stopped laughing. Mine are Obama and Durbin. Need I say more?
They pour a mean pint though.
Yes, I heard on MSNBC last night, one of the anchors asked if it had been say, McCain, that walked by the guard, would he have done the same thing...
I knew then, this was setting up to be a "racist" thing..
That's not the point. How many Irish protested in the streets with their flags when the congress was debating making it a federal crime enter the US illegally?
That answer is none so it's a non sequitur.
Cornyn is my Senator and I trust him (as much as one trusts someone they don't personally know,..and even then...)
I also think I trust Sen. Cute as a Button also...
Yes, she did.
There are serveral thousand illegal irish here
Though they mostly don't protest against america
Politicians plead illegal immigrants case in US (Irish Illegals)
Irish Examiner ^ | 3/28/06 | Senan Hogan
Posted on 03/28/2006 7:01:42 AM PST by MineralMan
AN Oireachtas delegation is on a week-long US visit in a last-ditch lobbying bid for illegal Irish immigrants.
The US Senate will today begin its debate on the first comprehensive rewrite of the countrys immigration laws in a decade.
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants staged weekend protests on immigration reform in Los Angeles, Denver and several other cities. A delegation from the Oireachtas Foreign Affairs Committee is today visiting Washington to lobby support for the Kennedy/McCain legislation which would allow illegals to stay in the US and work while applying for a green card and eventual citizenship.
Up to 50,000 Irish people are among the estimated 12 million undocumented people in the US.
Labours foreign affairs spokesman and delegation member, Michael D Higgins, said: The Irish affected are forced to live in the shadows. This means that they run considerable risks of a health, social and economic kind.
They are not free to return home for family events, births, deaths or funerals, and recent legislation has created new difficulties associated with even possessing a driving licence. The current atmosphere in the United States is such that the Kennedy/McCain legislation will face real difficulties. The delegation is hoping to have a number of meetings which would be helpful in this regard.
The delegation will meet the newly-formed Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform which has been holding well-attended public meetings in major US cities.
The TDs and Senators will also hold talks organisations providing legal advice and welfare
The Examiner also says there are 50,000 illegal immigrants in the US so I apologize.
I don't know if we have the law on the books but it doesn't appear we enforce it if in fact it still exists.
Canada will take people seeking asylum if they can prove they will suffer if sent back to their country of origin. However, they have really tightened up their immigration rules over the last year or two.
We have a home in Nova Scotia and, though we would like to eventually retire there, we will still have to maintain a residence in the US because we wouldn't be allowed to stay there all year round. Mind you, I have no intention of giving up my American citizenship, I just love the sea and Nova Scotia is still very reasonable when it comes to land on the water. We bought our house 18 years ago. It was cheaper than my used Ford Focus.
Thanks for the info Lee.
BTW - I'm glad you finally got your wife here! And, it's great that you won the bear to give her!!!
You may wish to investigate this little tidbit. Credit freeper ravingnutter:
I find this very interesting considering one of the organizations that is organizing the immigration protests in Detroit is ACCESS. Seems their President, Noel Saleh (name found on the "Staff" page) is an ACLU lawyer and supports terrorists:
Noel Saleh. The thrice-disciplined attorney (who was suspended from the practice of law) openly stated at a townhall meeting with federal officials that he has financially contributed to Hezbollah. He heads an Arab welfare agency that gets millions in our tax dollars, yet was raided by the FBI for engaging in Medicaid fraud. The organization also spent thousands in our tax dollars on "job training" (commercial driving lessons and attempts at HazMat hauling certificates) for two men indicted as members of the Detroit al-Qaeda terror cell. He has represented a number of Islamic terrorists, including Ibrahim Parlak and "former" PFLP terrorist Imad Hamad.
Front Page Magazine
ACCESS may be the most frightening funder of the conference because its chief, Ismael Ahmed, is running for University of Michigan regent in the November elections. And because American tax dollars fund his organization American tax dollars which he then used to pay for this hateful conference.
According to its latest annual report, in 2001, ACCESS got at least 73.6% of its $10.2 million annual revenue from taxpayers. ACCESS, North America's largest Arab welfare agency, funded commercial driving lessons and attempts to get hazardous-materials hauling certificates for Ahmed Hannan and Karim Koubriti, members of Detroit's recently indicted al-Qaida cell. When confronted by the press, ACCESS chief and Michigan regent candidate Ahmed dismissed their al-Qaida membership as a mere "political credential."
After 9/11, ACCESS organized and publicized in The Detroit News a campaign against universities cooperating with federal agents trying to find foreign students linked to terrorism.
ACCESS, which thinks nothing of funding the anti-Semitic hate conference in Ann Arbor, was paid $1.3m. to provide "sensitivity training" to the Dearborn Police Department, Wayne County Sheriff's Department, and Dearborn and Detroit Public Schools. Ahmed also opposed the Clinton Counter-terrorism Act of 1996 because it prohibited donations to terrorist groups, including Hizbullah and Hamas.
Everyone should be concerned not just with the hate and support for terrorism that went on at the University of Michigan Divestment Conference, but with who is funding it not only those closely associated with al-Qaida and Hamas, but unwitting American taxpayers themselves. Hopefully they will keep that in mind, as they go to the polls to hold accountable legislators who freely gave American tax money to ACCESS, and an irresponsible U-M Regent candidate, Ahmed the man who misused their money to foment hate and support terrorism.
When I read stuff like this, I truly think we're going to end up like France.
The Irish Examiner also mentions a "huge Irish rally" in DC this past weekend. I'm looking for pictures now to see what they were doing.
They don't protest against America
But they do hold up the Irish flag during a parade like St. Patty's day
There is a HUGE different between a Holiday parade and a Protest Rally against the US
But there are some who want people to think they are the same to make their point
I think I'm going to have to join you.
I'm up for anything that works. However, if we don't get a handle on this we are toast. Last night Howie Carr had a police chief on from New Hampshire. He and his officers cannot arrest illegals. What happens is they pull them over for a driving offense (i.e., dwi) and they say they cannot speak English. Because the police don't speak Spanish the arrest is thrown out by the courts. This has happened so many times the police are giving up on arresting illegals who commit criminal acts. I can't believe this police chief is lying. What the heck do we do about stuff like this?
I hadn't read that ..
Thanks .. I'll have to check that out
This goes way deeper than just "requiring" English and citizenship tests. Who's going to be teaching these classes, Jay Bennish and his ilk.
Wish I could trust the guy the way you do. Maybe he'll introduce it in order to get the conservative vote in the primaries. Of course, when it doesn't happen he'll just say he tried. Man, I'm becoming a real cynic.
Exactly! And it's so frustrating when the McLiam's of the world uses that kind of demagoguery to separate the herd.
(Spits on ground in anger)
Jewish World Review March 31, 2006/ 2 Nissan, 5766
How to intimidate Republican senators
LOS ANGELES Intimidation is the name of the game, and this week we've seen some world-class players at work. A few disc jockeys and an army of high-school kids out for a day of hooky made quick work of several Republican senators. March madness, indeed.
If the Republican majorities in both the House and Senate buckle and enact still another amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens among us, as anyone consulting history should expect them to do, credit must go where credit belongs.
Here's the Associated Press dissecting the Grand March through California on the morning after, when it turned out that the spontaneous demos were not so spontaneous after all: "The marching orders were clear: Carry American flags and pack the kids, pick up your trash and wear white for peace and for effect. Many of the 500,000 people who crammed downtown Los Angeles to protest legislation ... learned where, when and even how to demonstrate from the Spanish language media ... they were organized, promoted or publicized by Spanish-language radio hosts and TV anchors as a demonstration of Hispanic pride and power. ..."
Well, they're entitled. Taking to the streets long ago replaced baseball as our national pastime, and the right to demonstrate how unhappy and oppressed you are in the land of the big PX is what America is all about. Gay caballeros want wives who look exactly like them, feminists usually don't want men but they do want abortions, and they have marched through the streets to say so. The teenagers in the streets of Los Angeles want most of all to show their contempt for the law of the land of good and plenty. Some of them are so oppressed they hardly know where to park their cars, recharge their IPods, mooch a six-pack or download the clanging noise that surrounds them wherever they go.
At one California high school they ran the ubiquitous Mexican flag up the flagpole, displaying it above the American flag, which they flew upside down to signal acute distress.
But you might think that members of Congress, bumpkins though many of them are, could figure out just who it is yanking their chains. Some of the Republicans in Congress, perhaps even the new leadership under John Boehner in the House and the old leadership under Bill Frist in the Senate, watch the crowds of kids and see landslides on a Tuesday in a distant November, forgetting that most of those demonstrators either can't vote (tip to the Amnesty Caucus: 16-year-olds aren't eligible even to register) or won't vote (tip to the Caucus: teenagers are notoriously unable to get themselves out of bed and voting gets a low priority when they do).
Nevertheless, frightened old women in Congress see young bodies in the streets and conclude in their panic that pandering in Spanish is the way to go this November. The likes of Sam Brownback and Lindsey Graham, of Arlen Specter and Mike DeWine and the Amnesty Caucus should have no trouble learning the words to the pledge of allegiance to Mexico, the Salvadoran battle cry, and all six verses of the Guatemalan national anthem. But they're forgetting that unless they mollify the voters who sent them here this will be the November of the Republican burial without honors. The Americans who don't count in the Amnesty Caucus calculation are telling the pollsters by margins bumping 80 percent that they want the government to get tough on illegals jumping the line ahead of immigrants who are naive and foolish enough to play by the rules.
The driving force for illegal immigration is a confluence of interests, some worthy and some not. The illegals are mostly good and decent folk seeking a better life but illegal nonetheless. The unions see compliant fodder to replenish their depleted ranks. Corporate Republicans see a vast and inexhaustible supply of cheap and easily abused labor. Certain Republican strategists think they see an easily manipulated coalition of illegals, resentful Muslims, evangelical Christians and good ol' boys who are poor, uneducated and easy to command.
You can't blame the Democrats, who won't have to do anything but watch, for licking their chops.
Hey, I'm in the same boat. I need a 12 step program to get away from this computer.
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