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Scots catapult to land people on the moon
Times Online ^ | 04/02/06

Posted on 04/02/2006 2:42:22 PM PDT by KevinDavis

IT IS more familiar as the weapon of choice for naughty schoolboys, but Scottish scientists have used the humble catapult to inspire a new branch of research that could revolutionise space travel, writes Marc Horne.

Researchers at Glasgow University are working on the production of a giant stellar “slingshot” that they believe can be used to propel spacecraft to the moon.

Their research has caught the eye of experts at Nasa, who claim the technology could cut the cost of space travel dramatically and lead to the establishment of lunar bases within 20 years. They also believe the technology could be used for manned space missions.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: moon; scotland; scots; sionnsar; space

1 posted on 04/02/2006 2:42:24 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...

2 posted on 04/02/2006 2:42:44 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: KevinDavis

Is it just me or do the Scotts have an obsession about catapults?


3 posted on 04/02/2006 2:44:40 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: KevinDavis

I think the catapult was tried once in the future

4 posted on 04/02/2006 2:47:44 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: KevinDavis

5 posted on 04/02/2006 2:48:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: KevinDavis

"Should I tell 'em how t' really do it, laddie?"

6 posted on 04/02/2006 2:49:15 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: bnelson44

Moonmen will pour boiling oil on them if they try.


7 posted on 04/02/2006 2:49:27 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: bnelson44

Or trebuchet?


8 posted on 04/02/2006 2:49:51 PM PDT by phantomworker (You are what you think you are......Qu’est que c’est)
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To: bnelson44
In other news, Scottish scientists revealed today that they are very close to perfecting a "bagpipe engine". The engine is ale-fuled and converts ale to hot air.

The scientist also revealed that the engine doesn't actually send the operator to the moon but drives other standing nearby to the moon.
9 posted on 04/02/2006 2:51:19 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: KevinDavis
They want to design it so it will launch all of the haggis in Scotland.
10 posted on 04/02/2006 2:52:27 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: Fzob

"I think the catapult was tried once in the future"

Sure you're not thinking about Willi E Coyote in the past. As I recall it was most likely made by ACME.


11 posted on 04/02/2006 2:53:57 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: KevinDavis

'THEY MEAN TO WIN WIMBLEDON'


12 posted on 04/02/2006 2:55:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KevinDavis

I never met a Scotsman I wanted to fight... but would have without choice is I referred to them as Scots or Scotts as much as these posters here are.


13 posted on 04/02/2006 2:56:38 PM PDT by NTW64
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To: dfwgator
Fling me to the moon...

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14 posted on 04/02/2006 2:56:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: bnelson44
Is it just me or do the Scotts have an obsession about catapults?

Oh, these Scots scientists always get a tad wacky after several oatmeal stouts and copious amounts of Glenmorangie.

Whatever became of Sheena Easton? I always thought her to be very beautiful, as well as a wonderful singer.

15 posted on 04/02/2006 2:59:06 PM PDT by jla
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To: Meadow Muffin

Haggis isnt that bad if you dont describe it while eating.


16 posted on 04/02/2006 2:59:11 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: NTW64
Robert Burns is deeply saddened.
17 posted on 04/02/2006 3:00:30 PM PDT by dighton
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To: cripplecreek
Fling me to the moon...

ROFL!!

18 posted on 04/02/2006 3:00:57 PM PDT by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: bdfromlv

"Git yer haggis, right here. Chopped heart n' lungs. Boiled in a wee sheeps' stomach. Taste's as good as it sounds. Good for what ails ya"

19 posted on 04/02/2006 3:03:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: KevinDavis

Yep, sounds about right. Leave it up to my Scottish ancestors to figure out a way to more frugally send a man to the moon.


20 posted on 04/02/2006 3:06:17 PM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: KevinDavis
[From the article:]

it is estimated a spacecraft could reach the moon’s atmosphere within four days, where it would be caught by another tether in low orbit, which would deposit it safely on the lunar surface.... Because there is no atmosphere on the moon, the tether would be able to touch the moon surface,

Nice consistent report -- I'd tend to put more credence in the Ralph Kramden method myself.

21 posted on 04/02/2006 3:09:19 PM PDT by mikrofon (Oh, uh, by the way...)
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To: KevinDavis
This is it:


22 posted on 04/02/2006 3:11:31 PM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
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To: dighton

That was one worth saving, as the son of a Newf and an American with European (not french) ancestors while living in NJ I relate to the dialect and A good Fight!


23 posted on 04/02/2006 3:12:17 PM PDT by NTW64
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

..."fling me up,Scottie"


24 posted on 04/02/2006 3:17:13 PM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: KevinDavis
If it's not Scottish it's crap.


25 posted on 04/02/2006 3:25:02 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Remember Monty Python's suicidal samurai Scotsmen, and how they were flung by catapult straight into the heart of Moscow itself, forcing the Soviet Army to call in its

Unexploded Scotsmen Squad!

(the detached head, defused in a bucket of water, still topped by a bearskin busby, was priceless!)


26 posted on 04/02/2006 3:44:29 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: KevinDavis

Wasn't this article supposed to have been published on April 1st instead of 2nd?


27 posted on 04/02/2006 3:49:22 PM PDT by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: KevinDavis
Once hurled away from the tether, it is estimated a spacecraft could reach the moon’s atmosphere within four days,

The author seems to have meant orbit, but you never know with the MSM

28 posted on 04/02/2006 3:55:49 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: KevinDavis

I read a book by Robert L Forward a few years back. I think the title was "Saturn Rukh". In the book a ship was using nanotube filaments as tethers to catch Saturns moons to get in and out of the Saturnian gravity well.


29 posted on 04/02/2006 4:13:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: KevinDavis
But bagpipes are not that aerodynamic.
30 posted on 04/02/2006 4:34:31 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Fzob
I think the catapult was tried once in the future

I don't remember that happening, yet.

31 posted on 04/02/2006 4:35:24 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (REAL men vote Republican)
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To: Vince Ferrer

LOL!
LOL!

Good one!


32 posted on 04/02/2006 4:35:29 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: KevinDavis

The concept of the rotating tether in low Earth orbit was invented by Moravec in 1959. They were called Moravec Wheels at that time. You can also spin one up by lowering asteroid or Lunar regolith on the tether to gain angular momentum. I hope the Scottish researchers cited Moravec in their paper.


33 posted on 04/02/2006 4:51:44 PM PDT by darth
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To: KevinDavis

"What time is it?'
"I dunno."
"Time...to unpimp ze planet!"


34 posted on 04/02/2006 4:53:20 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Oh, SCHNAPP!")
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To: KevinDavis

Real Catapults are Steam Powered...


35 posted on 04/02/2006 5:37:56 PM PDT by Bean Counter ("Stout Hearts!")
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To: diverteach

In "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" the Moon attacks Earth with a catapult.


36 posted on 04/02/2006 6:06:14 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: KevinDavis
Their research has caught the eye of experts at Nasa, who claim the technology could cut the cost of space travel dramatically and lead to the establishment of lunar bases within 20 years. They also believe the technology could be used for manned space missions.

Yep, that's the way. Let NASA get their hands on it. Will end up costing 20 times what originally was estimated and will be used for the next 4 decades as 'cutting edge'. Of course that's a description of the current space bus but hey NASA is the place to go if you're looking to continue using out of date technology and don't mind wasting tax payer dollars.

I would suggest the Scots keep this as far away from NASA as possible and engage in fruitful conversation with a private company if they want to be alive to see the day when this technology is ever used

37 posted on 04/02/2006 6:12:04 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: KevinDavis
The idea seems to be more about tethers than catapults...


38 posted on 04/02/2006 6:15:31 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: KevinDavis
Their research has caught the eye of experts at Nasa, who claim the technology could cut the cost of space travel dramatically

Not if NASA impelents it. It'll cost twice as much as anything ever built to date and as an added bonus it won't work.
39 posted on 04/02/2006 6:19:23 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: darth

I seem to recall coming across various versions of this idea over the past few decades, in Sci-Fi as well as science articles. It certainly isn't as new as the article makes it seem, although the exact details may be new..


40 posted on 04/02/2006 6:34:01 PM PDT by Paradox (".. and remove all doubt.")
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To: KevinDavis
"... a spacecraft could reach the moon’s atmosphere ...

Duh.

The moon does not have an atmosphere.

41 posted on 04/02/2006 6:38:00 PM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: Fzob
"What'll we do, throw rocks at 'em?"
43 posted on 04/02/2006 9:15:42 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (["My name is Rose, and I read my first Heinlein novel at age six, which explains EVERYTHING ...!" ])
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To: KevinDavis
The Froggies have been working on a similar prject but have yet to reach escape velocity.

Zee Frenchy-French Human Slingshot (requires Quicktime)

But then The Finns have been taking a more hi-tech route.

Rocket Boots

prisoner6

44 posted on 04/02/2006 11:44:51 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
In other news, Scottish scientists revealed today that they are very close to perfecting a "bagpipe engine". The engine is ale-fuled and converts ale to hot air. The scientist also revealed that the engine doesn't actually send the operator to the moon but drives other standing nearby to the moon.

Scots dont need bagpipe engines for that.
45 posted on 04/03/2006 12:32:06 AM PDT by S0122017 (God created the aliens which guided evolution which produced the human race and that's the Truth.)
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To: bobbdobbs
That's a classic from CNN: "Shuttle traveling nearly 18 times the speed of light"!?

Next, CBS will be telling us the world is flat.

46 posted on 04/03/2006 3:16:57 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: cripplecreek
Fling me to the moon...

ROFLMAO! Oh geez... thanks! I needed that!

47 posted on 04/03/2006 3:53:25 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: bobbdobbs
Is that pic for real? I gather from what I can see of the logo, that its CNN.

18 Times the speed of light, wow! I didn't know the shuttles were powered with Dylithium Crystals.

48 posted on 04/03/2006 4:58:57 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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