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Immigration, yes! Colonization, no!
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 4, 2006 | Dr. Alan Keyes

Posted on 04/04/2006 8:56:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: Flavius Josephus
And boy, can I show them UUUHHHGGGGly
41 posted on 04/04/2006 1:05:57 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: mlc9852
I just don't see the majority of Mexicans as threats to national security. Maybe because I have Mexican neighbors and have never had any problems with them. They go to work, come home, take care of their children. Kind of like I do.

What if someone took a poll of everyone now residing in LA county and asked this question:

"To which country do you give your primary allegiance?"

(a) United States
(b) Mexico

I bet the majority, if they answered honestly, would choose (b).

Do you sense just the tiniest national security problem with that situation?

42 posted on 04/04/2006 1:08:20 PM PDT by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: Max in Utah

"Do you sense just the tiniest national security problem with that situation?"

I sense a national security problem because we let in Muslims. When was the last time a Mexican crashed a plane into a building in the US (on purpose, of course)?


43 posted on 04/04/2006 1:10:01 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
I sense a national security problem because we let in Muslims.

Oh, you'll get no argument from me on that (see tagline).

When was the last time a Mexican crashed a plane into a building in the US (on purpose, of course)?

Never, so far as I am aware.

When was the last time the muslims invaded and occupied the richest and most populous state in the union?

44 posted on 04/04/2006 1:21:53 PM PDT by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: Max in Utah

So there aren't many Muslims in California?

"Like other residents, they enjoy the prevailing atmosphere of tolerance and political openness here. Sparked by opportunities that didn't exist 20 years ago, they've created local organizations and expanded them nationwide. Because of recent immigration, the Bay Area's Muslim population has swelled to more than 200,000. Dozens of new mosques and Islamic-oriented schools have opened. An increasing number of local companies set aside rooms for Muslims to pray."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/archive/2004/09/10/MUSLIMS.TMP

And I assume there are even more now. And that's just in the Bay Area.

Give me a thousand Mexicans for one Muslims and I won't complain a bit!


45 posted on 04/04/2006 1:31:40 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Okay, your "1000 Mexicans" are on the way. Remember to leave the porchlight on.


46 posted on 04/04/2006 1:37:36 PM PDT by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: Max in Utah

Where I live I have Mexicans all around me so it's really no big deal. However, if I lived next door to Muslims, I would move!


47 posted on 04/04/2006 1:40:10 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: EternalVigilance

Bump!


48 posted on 04/04/2006 1:45:55 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: Flavius Josephus

"We'd get down in the muck and roll around with these barbarians. We'd show them the true meaning of the word "Ugly American."

Ha! That's been my reasoning for a long time. It should be obvious that nice isn't working. We have let this great nation be infested by people who spit on us.


49 posted on 04/04/2006 1:51:42 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Flavius Josephus

I have to admit, I shake my head when some in Congress and even on Fox News talk about how McCain/Kennedy is not an amnesty because they'll have to pay some fines and back taxes.

The fines discussed amount to $1000 - $2500. A token. And how will the "back taxes" be calculated ? Does anybody really believe these people that have worked off the books for years will report enough income to owe any income taxes ? Even if they had been legal all along, they wouldn't have owed much, if any, income taxes. Heck, they might have even gotten back all their SS/M taxes via the EITC.

So they can be legalized, pay no taxes, and join the ranks of Democrats voting for cake-and-circuses at my expense ? No thanks.

Federal and State governments take 40% of my income in taxes. Any talk about illegals "paying their back taxes" should start right there -- 40% of all income they've ever earned while in the US illegally. Plus the same penalties that you or I would owe if we'd failed to report our income and pay our taxes on time. These new citizens would end up with the IRS garnishing 50% of their wages for the rest of their lives. Somehow, I think all these aliens that claim they are willing to pay their "back taxes" would disappear into the woodwork.


50 posted on 04/04/2006 2:13:02 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."


52 posted on 04/04/2006 3:45:57 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: EternalVigilance; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Dr. Alan Keyes Ping!

53 posted on 04/04/2006 7:38:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: DoughtyOne

They're only colonizing the land that America is not willing to fight for. Don't worry, be happy.


54 posted on 04/04/2006 7:39:58 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: mlc9852
I just don't see the majority of Mexicans as threats to national security. Maybe because I have Mexican neighbors and have never had any problems with them. They go to work, come home, take care of their children. Kind of like I do.

That sounds very nice; but if that is the limit of your understanding of the immigration issue, you should read into it further.

55 posted on 04/04/2006 7:42:21 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: EternalVigilance
At the same time, he and others like him want us to believe that the latest so-called immigration bill is somehow in line with the great tradition of immigration that literally created the American people. This is a lie.

It is a LIE that will destroy our middle class if we allow this outrage to happen. Bush knows this is a lie. He just doesn't care.

56 posted on 04/04/2006 8:02:05 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
It is the best, then no one would be illegal.

There are about 100 million people in Mexico and even their most conservative politicians are socialists by our standards. That many people would entitle them to 1/4th of the seats in Congress. The number of Senate seats and Presidential Electoral College Seats would be determined by the number of states that we broke them into.

With 100 million new poor people mostly voting for Democrats, do you think there is any chance that Republicans would ever control Congress or the Presidency again? Do you think these people would be voting to rollback welfare and socialism? I doubt it.

Just the cost of enrolling them on our current social programs would break us. The vast majority would qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit which is welfare disguised as a tax refund, foodstamps, housing assistance, and on and on. And then we would get to sign up all these people up on social security.

It is a horrible idea that would drag the USA into the third world!

57 posted on 04/05/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble

If Mexico were to become a state, yes... If we were to annex them like Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands then no... They do not have voting rights nor are they in our welfare system.


58 posted on 04/05/2006 7:07:17 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Kellis91789

Politicians pretend the illegal immigrates will follow the laws they pass. They will not. Never have, never will. It's a myth that ANY of them come here and obey the law. They're not interested in that. They're interested in not attracting attention, at least they used to be.


59 posted on 04/05/2006 7:28:08 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
If we were to annex them like Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands then no... They do not have voting rights nor are they in our welfare system.

Puerto Ricans have full rights of citizenship including the right to travel to any State in the USA where they CAN get benefits.

And are you sure they are not collecting welfare in PR? I'd be really surprised.

60 posted on 04/05/2006 9:40:22 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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