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CIRCUMCISION: Did you know?
The Daily Barometer ^ | Today | Daniel Cullen

Posted on 04/05/2006 5:19:29 PM PDT by Giant Conservative

The debate about neonatal circumcision is over. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), neonatal circumcision is the result of ignorance, bad medical practice and American social and cultural pressure. Regarding the three most commonly cited justifications for neonatal circumcision (penile cancer, venereal disease and penile hygiene), the AAP now states that the benefits are negligible, which means that the majority of American men are walking around without foreskins for no good reason. Yet, the barbaric practice shows no sign of abating, and for this reason I plan to shed some light on the cultural dark spot of circumcision.

The U.S. stands alone as the only country in the world (including developed, developing and undeveloped countries) where neonatal nonreligious circumcision is routine for physicians and their unwitting patients.

In contrast, 80 percent of the planet does not practice circumcision, and since 1870 no other country has adopted it. China, Japan, Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Scandinavia, Holland and Russia have never condoned the practice (except for religious purposes), and of the other countries that do practice neonatal nonreligious circumcision (Canada, Australia and Great Britain), there has been a regimented decline in circumcisions by about 10 percent per decade in accordance with the advice of each country’s own respective medical institutions.

If we take a look at the latter group of English-speaking countries, the statistics show just how wildly disproportionate the U.S. endemic is when compared with its English speaking cousins. In the second-highest-instance countries, Australia and Canada, the amount of neonatal nonreligious circumcisions is estimated to be about 30 percent, compared to Great Britain where only 1 percent of males can expect to have their foreskins cut off before they have even acquired one-word language acquisition to be able to say “No!”. In the U.S., however, the number of circumcised males is estimated to be approximately 80 percent. Only in America has medical science taken a back seat in the fight for the foreskin.

As Edward Wallerstein aptly points out in Circumcision: The Uniquely American Medical Enigma, “[i]n 1971 and 1975, the American Academy of Pediatrics Task Force on Circumcision declared: ‘…there are no valid medical indications for circumcision in the neonatal period.’” Subsequently, this decision has been endorsed by The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists in 1978 and by the AAP in 1999.

And yet, Wallerstein highlights that “[t]he ‘firm’ declarations should have caused a marked drop in the United States circumcision rate. They did not.” The truth is that neonatal circumcision is deeply rooted in American culture: so much so, in fact, that many American parents actually believe they are doing their sons a service, when, in only one foul slice, the dangers of penile cancer, venereal disease and bad hygiene are purportedly quashed (along with premature ejaculation, masturbation, and general ugliness). But American parents have been grossly misguided.

The AAP affirms that the majority of reported benefits by which parents justify circumcision are groundless hearsay. Notably, penile cancer might be preventable through circumcision of the foreskin, just as the potential for most diseases is eliminable by the complete removal of the vulnerable body part — I bet I could guarantee you would never contract Hotchkiss brain disease if you let me cut your head off too — but the fact is that the foreskin is an important, healthy and irreplaceable part of a child’s body, and in the absence of overwhelming medical evidence proving the link between retention of the foreskin and penile cancer, the AAP has had no choice but to disregard this cultural claim.

Furthermore, as far as the argument that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting venereal diseases goes, Wallerstein crucially highlights that “health” circumcision originated in 19th century England, where the theory emerged that masturbation was responsible for such things as asthma, hernia, gout, kidney disease, rheumatism and even alcoholism.

The Victorian aversion to all acts sexual was fertile ground for genital mutilation to take root and, since the English cultural practice stormed the U.S., beliefs about the purported benefits of the practice have barely changed, while Great Britain has become a born-again circumcision virgin. Consequently, the link proposed between any disease and the foreskin is outdated fallacy — including venereal diseases.

As if that was not enough, the AAP also states that “there is little evidence to affirm the association between circumcision status and optimal penile hygiene.” Consequently, parental supervision of the foreskin is a far more appropriate measure for reducing the chances of infection in a boy’s penis than a radical surgical procedure, especially when the short-term effects of circumcision can include anything from changed sleeping patterns to psychological disruptions in feeding and bonding between mother and infant, profuse bleeding, subsequent infection from surgery, and even death.

Moreover, the AAP recognizes that circumcision causes extreme pain and trauma for infants, since circumcised infants exhibit deterioration in pain threshold as much as six months later when receiving mandatory vaccinations, while the long-term physical and psychological damage is undocumented.

In short, the idea that neonatal circumcision is the answer to all of men’s ills is erroneous. Like the Jewish religious practice of circumcision, American nonreligious circumcision is dependent on the acceptance of cultural beliefs, and the sad truth is that Americans hold to the norm as tenaciously as they hold to the scalpel, although they do not entirely know why because they are not being told.

Religious circumcision is one thing, but circumcision for no good reason ... well, what is the sense of that? There is none! Removal of the foreskin is a cultural mistake, and I hope that on reading these facts you will break the ghastly cycle if the choice ever becomes your own. It’s about time the foreskin became sacred too.


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The anti-male feminists of the United Nations unsurprisingly push circumcision as a panacea.

They are wrong.

In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwide.

1 posted on 04/05/2006 5:19:32 PM PDT by Giant Conservative
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To: Giant Conservative

To quote a pediatrician:

"It causes a peak of awareness."


2 posted on 04/05/2006 5:22:03 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Giant Conservative
In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwide.

My sons were circ'ed by a doctor, not a barber.

3 posted on 04/05/2006 5:22:05 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Giant Conservative

4 posted on 04/05/2006 5:22:20 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Alouette; SJackson

ping


5 posted on 04/05/2006 5:22:58 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Giant Conservative
In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwide.

Wrong!

6 posted on 04/05/2006 5:25:05 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Giant Conservative

More info:

http://www.circinfo.net/


7 posted on 04/05/2006 5:25:24 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: American_Centurion; Giant Conservative

Peter North doesn't seem so upset about it.

Nor do most women everywhere.


8 posted on 04/05/2006 5:26:00 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Giant Conservative

I'm sure you planned to say something to the effect of "...except where people are complying with their religious belief..."

Right?


9 posted on 04/05/2006 5:26:02 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Giant Conservative

LOL. There is nothing wrong with circumcision. My cousin who is a urologist always said that ending circumcision would give him more business. I was circumcised at 8 days of age as was my son. To call that genital mutilation goes beyond ridiculous. I was so traumatized by my circumcision that when I was 11 years old and knew that my parents were not practicing religion I wondered if I had been circumcised since I had no idea what it really was. I enjoy sex immensely and have absolutely no desire whatsoever to have a foreskin. To call it barbaric or mutilation is frankly dumb.


10 posted on 04/05/2006 5:26:23 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Giant Conservative

Overall Statement: Medical Proof of Circumcision Benefits by Edgar J. Schoen, MD, FAAP

http://www.medicirc.org/summary.html

Compelling medical data much of it accumulated in the past 2 decades, have conclusively shown that a boy circumcised as a newborn has multiple lifetime health advantages compared to one with an “intact” foreskin.


11 posted on 04/05/2006 5:27:31 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Giant Conservative
The U.S. stands alone as the only country in the world (including developed, developing and undeveloped countries) where neonatal nonreligious circumcision is routine for physicians and their unwitting patients

I would have thought that this is practiced in Israel. Is that not true, or is Israel not considered a country?

12 posted on 04/05/2006 5:27:49 PM PDT by Theo
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To: Giant Conservative
The anti-male feminists of the United Nations unsurprisingly push circumcision as a panacea. They are wrong.
In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwide.

God commanded it for Israel. The United States, as the article points out, has an 80% circumcision rate and in the past it's been much higher. Could the United States be composed primarily of the descendents of the ten lost tribes of Israel? Coincidence? Or something more?

And for the record, I don't find it barbaric. Wasn't there just some study that circumcised males have a much smaller chance of contracting HIV then similiar non-circumcised males? And I always thought that feminist liberal women would be against circumcision?

13 posted on 04/05/2006 5:27:51 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Giant Conservative

Hey, it's no skin off my nose.

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14 posted on 04/05/2006 5:27:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Giant Conservative
It is interesting that when I was born (1975), it wasn't even asked if you wanted your kid to be cut. My father says he was a bit surprised. Don't know the case now.
15 posted on 04/05/2006 5:28:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Giant Conservative
I'm happy with my circumcision and I'll recommend it to my uncircumcised friends.
16 posted on 04/05/2006 5:28:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Giant Conservative
Yet, the barbaric practice...

Oh yeah, this is an unbiased article.

17 posted on 04/05/2006 5:28:28 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Giant Conservative
The anti-male feminists of the United Nations unsurprisingly push circumcision as a panacea.
They are wrong.
In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwide.

It IS an absurd practice.
It's always a way to identify an American male....dead or alive.

Why does it still exist? Ignorance, stupidity?
I know the answer! Hand waves in air frantically!
Because there is no N.O.W. advocating for men's rights in this country. Lol. If women were getting circumcised for no good reason, the practice would ALREADY be ancient history.
Ow! What a horrible thing to do to a baby boy!

18 posted on 04/05/2006 5:29:02 PM PDT by starfish923
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To: Giant Conservative

I don't know if it should be banned, but we didn't circumcise our son. We didn't see a need to do it.

My parents were very upset. They thought we were crazy.


19 posted on 04/05/2006 5:29:06 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Giant Conservative
In fact, it is barbarism, and should be banned worldwid

LOL!!

20 posted on 04/05/2006 5:29:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Theo

The Muslims circumcize males babies. Unfortunately, some do it to females is well, which really is barbaric genital mutilation.


21 posted on 04/05/2006 5:29:51 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Giant Conservative

I was so traumatized by circumcision I kept pulling on it every chance I got for 2 decades.


22 posted on 04/05/2006 5:30:13 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Giant Conservative
On the day I was born, the nurses all gathered 'round
And they gazed in wide wonder, at the joy they had found
The head nurse spoke up, and she said leave this one alone
She could tell right away, that I was bad to the bone

I scared them, they acted out of fear

23 posted on 04/05/2006 5:31:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (Beautify America ....Deport a RINO today!....somewhere so bad they can't screw it up..Haiti?)
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To: Giant Conservative
penile hygiene

working with developmentally disabled men in personal hygiene is a whole lot easier when the men have had a circumcision.

24 posted on 04/05/2006 5:31:07 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: Giant Conservative

Circumcision Benefits Seen For the first time

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4DF143CF935A35750C0A96F948260

Circumcision Benefits Seen For the first time, the American Academy of Pediatrics said circumcision protects against kidney and urinary tract infections.


25 posted on 04/05/2006 5:31:26 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Giant Conservative

Medical Benefits Of Circumcision

http://www.drjesin.com/medicalbenAJ.html


26 posted on 04/05/2006 5:32:07 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: cripplecreek

Indeed. I am, as will my boys.


27 posted on 04/05/2006 5:32:07 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: SteveMcKing

I know personally 3 men who were "cut" at some point after their late 20s, all had trauma that required it to go. Two were sports related(a cup that caught it and damaged). The other guy nearly lost it all when a retaining bolt on a metal press arm let loose and got him on the left leg and crotch. To a man they claim it isn't as good. I have no frame of reference. I would have preferred a choice.


28 posted on 04/05/2006 5:32:38 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: starfish923
If women were getting circumcised for no good reason

Would you care to explain that procedure?

29 posted on 04/05/2006 5:33:10 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Theo
I would have thought that this is practiced in Israel. Is that not true, or is Israel not considered a country?

It's all about reading comprehension:

"The U.S. stands alone as the only country in the world (including developed, developing and undeveloped countries) where neonatal nonreligious circumcision is routine for physicians and their unwitting patients"

30 posted on 04/05/2006 5:33:19 PM PDT by whd23
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To: Giant Conservative
(1)Having done a urology rotation, I was amazed at the number of adult problems in uncircumcised males, and how often an adult circ was needed.

(2) Smegma.

31 posted on 04/05/2006 5:33:27 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Michael Goldsberry

circumcision is the civilized thing to do.


32 posted on 04/05/2006 5:33:50 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Howlin; onyx; Clemenza; Petronski; GummyIII; SevenofNine; martin_fierro; veronica; EggsAckley; ...

misc ping


33 posted on 04/05/2006 5:34:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Giant Conservative
These threads are always revealing...
34 posted on 04/05/2006 5:34:17 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Giant Conservative

Be sure to cc: God on that memo.


35 posted on 04/05/2006 5:34:31 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Since all politicians understand is money, I donate ONLY to those who oppose illegal immigration)
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To: Giant Conservative
The anti-male feminists of the United Nations unsurprisingly push circumcision as a panacea.

Where? The UN website says

UN agencies are calling for caution in response to findings that circumcision could be effective in reducing the risk of HIV infection among men.

Those findings were presented yesterday at an AIDS conference in Brazil. The Joint UN Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) – in collaboration with the World Health Organization, the UN Population Fund and the UN Children’s Fund – says that more research is needed, and that even if the findings are confirmed, it will not mean that men will be able to prevent HIV infection through circumcision alone.


36 posted on 04/05/2006 5:35:01 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Honestfreedom; Osage Orange
It's the stuff of hate-my-parents teenagers who know everything, yet themselves are thoroughly addicted to Prozac, lithium, and therapists.

Trust me, I have been accused of misogyny more than most people have. If I really thought there was a problem with circumcision, I would probably see it. But it's all good, IMO.

37 posted on 04/05/2006 5:35:32 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: HairOfTheDog

hehehehe...

You just can't lurk, can you? ;-)

Oh! I mean...ummm...I'm not really here...


38 posted on 04/05/2006 5:35:45 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: DainBramage

I was so traumatized, I couldn't talk for a year, people tell me it was just gibberish.


39 posted on 04/05/2006 5:35:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: HairOfTheDog

So your saying beauty is only skin deep?


40 posted on 04/05/2006 5:35:55 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Honestfreedom
I haven't read the posts past yours (#10), but you're right. I really can't see the uproar abour circumsion. It seems to make a lot of sense to me, especially vis-a-vis the cleanliness issue (ease of, that is).

It was routine at the hospital at which I was born. So it was no big deal.

It seems to me that folks ought to find something else to get so exercised about.

41 posted on 04/05/2006 5:36:47 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: EveningStar

Please, not at dinner!


42 posted on 04/05/2006 5:36:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Giant Conservative
Most circumcision patients in the US are are unable to walk for a year after the procedure.
43 posted on 04/05/2006 5:37:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: Michael Goldsberry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_circumcision easiest one to read.


44 posted on 04/05/2006 5:37:31 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Cecily
The Muslims circumcize males babies

Actually, the Muslims circumcize at a later age, around 10 or 11 if I recall.

45 posted on 04/05/2006 5:38:57 PM PDT by Knute (W- Yep, He's STILL the President!)
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To: Giant Conservative

The so-called barbarism of circumcision is less traumatic that ear-piercing.


46 posted on 04/05/2006 5:39:11 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Theo
It is also standard practice in Muslim countries. Most people aren't aware that Islam, not just Judaism, requires male circumcision.

http://www.circlist.com/rites/moslem.html

http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/HealthEdReligion/CircumcisionEn/Chapter1MaleCircumcision.htm

The circumcision of male children is a central feature of both Judaism and Islam. It is also important in many African and New World cultures.


47 posted on 04/05/2006 5:39:43 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: DouglasKC

Many consider it a privilege to be circumcised and be in conformity with the sacred and honored traditions of the Jewish people. It represents being brought into the eternal covenant between G-d and the descendents of Abraham and Sarah through the Mitzvah of Mila (circumcision)

"Thus My covenant will be marked on you as an everlasting pact" (Genesis 17:13)


48 posted on 04/05/2006 5:40:04 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Giant Conservative

Methinks echos of anti-Semitism are found here.

As a Christian who knows it doesn't make one better or worse morally, I cannot fathom that God would command his people in old covenant times to do something which health-wise is "barbarism."


49 posted on 04/05/2006 5:40:32 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: KarlInOhio

I still have occasional swelling.


50 posted on 04/05/2006 5:40:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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