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Traitor or ally: gospel sheds new light on Judas (New ancient manuscript found)
AFP via Yahoo ^ | Apr 6, 2006 | AFP

Posted on 04/06/2006 12:41:01 PM PDT by Justice

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To: hiredhand

The people who edited put together our Bible in the early 300's were apostate christians pagans and the Jews. It was a one world type thing to bring the many factions together


61 posted on 04/06/2006 1:17:24 PM PDT by zipp_city
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To: Justice

Unfortunately, this is disproved by The Gospel of Herbert, also recently discovered...


62 posted on 04/06/2006 1:18:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Denver Ditdat
I hear ya. ...same here pretty much. What did it for us was what our kids pointed out about it. They were the ones that started pointing out the leftward, godless slant. We also felt it was a great shame with the direction that National Geographic took. We felt like a great American institution was going by the wayside. Ah well...must do what's right. ...and supporting them came to the point of being wrong....so we dropped them.

I do like looking through their older printings though...fascinating! :-)
63 posted on 04/06/2006 1:20:28 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Justice
Geez, this stuff again?

The "Gospel of Judas"

'Gospel of Judas' to Be Published

Twice under this title: Expert Doubts 'Gospel of Judas' Revelation

Long-lost Gospel of Judas to be published.

64 posted on 04/06/2006 1:20:34 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: wordoffaith

> (New ancient manuscript found)
> Well, which is it? New or ancient?

Whichever it is, it's an instant classic.


65 posted on 04/06/2006 1:20:44 PM PDT by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine)
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To: wideawake

see my post 42


66 posted on 04/06/2006 1:21:39 PM PDT by Justice
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To: Justice
The Gospel of Judas Priest?


67 posted on 04/06/2006 1:21:42 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: VegasCowboy; Justice
I don't understand. Why is this post zot-worthy?

*shrug* It probably isn't.

First day of sign up.
Article that could be viewed as attacking Christianity.
Trigger happy nully...

68 posted on 04/06/2006 1:23:20 PM PDT by null and void (We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle)
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To: zipp_city
This could be interesting it this book has not been altered like all of the rest of the Bibble in the early 300's by the church.

The Church, of course, did not "alter" the Bible in the 300s.

Your assertion is ridiculous on its face: the Hebrew Scriptures accepted by the Jews are identical almost to the word with the ones used by the Church both before and after the 300s.

Did both the rabbis and the Church secretly collude with one another?

As for the New Testament texts, we have nearly-complete manuscripts dating from well before the canonical Church councils of the 300s and thousands and thousands of even earlier corroborating quotes and references.

69 posted on 04/06/2006 1:24:17 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

No no. The Church altered the Bibble, not the Bible.


70 posted on 04/06/2006 1:25:38 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: hiredhand
From what I've read in Fox's Book of Martyrs

What other largely-fabricated propaganda screeds have you read?

71 posted on 04/06/2006 1:26:47 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Justice

Yes .. hey newbie.

I know, It was a tweak because a couple of real newbies got zotted on that article.


72 posted on 04/06/2006 1:27:40 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: Justice
Interesting article. Thank you for posting it.

I've read a few non-canonical gospels. Even though these gospels are not inspired by the Holy Spirit, they still offer a window on the issues of the day among Christians.

Many of our Christian traditions and doctrines were hotly debated in those days, but now they are considered settled disputes.

73 posted on 04/06/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by george wythe
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To: zipp_city
The people who edited put together our Bible in the early 300's were apostate christians pagans and the Jews. It was a one world type thing to bring the many factions together

What the hell are you smoking?

74 posted on 04/06/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Slings and Arrows

The flaw with Moorcock's premise is that John the Baptist and Jesus were cousins. John would not have mistaken Glogauer for Jesus. Great fiction, though. I loved the Elric books.


75 posted on 04/06/2006 1:31:12 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: zipp_city
This could be interesting it this book has not been altered like all of the rest of the Bibble in the early 300's by the church.

Yeah. Baaaad church...
Its simple.
Either you believe God, or you don't.
You either understand that HE IS who HE says HE IS - the timeless Creator of the Universe and World, or you don't.
If you believe he former, you probably have not trouble believing that HE could and would protect HIS Word. You'd therefore stick with the Bible built upon the commonly used and accepted Scriptures. If you believe the latter, then sure, exult any heretical writings that are discovered (news flash: it is not too surprising that satan used his influence to attack God's Word -- and it is therefore not too surprising that there are an abundance of heretical writings/false gospels written around the same time as the authentic scriptures), or pulled out of the trash heaps -- and give credence to theories of grand conspiracies of the 'church' to keep the truth out of people's hands ... all the while as an impotent god could only wring his hands in the corner...
Sorry, these latest 'discoveries' register a big zero on my list of material to read.

Psalm 119
89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Matthew 24:35 35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

I'll stick with reading the Bible and leave this other rubbish where it belongs.

76 posted on 04/06/2006 1:34:48 PM PDT by El Cid
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To: txflake

The secret lies with Charlotte.


77 posted on 04/06/2006 1:34:56 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: ovrtaxt

I dunno, I've got cousins I haven't seen in 15 years.

I agree, though, that BtM was great fiction. It sounds like this"Gospel of Judas" is too.


78 posted on 04/06/2006 1:35:52 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (When Al Franken had his bris, they threw away the baby and saved the foreskin.)
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To: zipp_city
The people who edited put together our Bible in the early 300's were apostate christians pagans and the Jews. It was a one world type thing to bring the many factions together

Oh, I see. You are a lunatic.

79 posted on 04/06/2006 1:37:25 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: pabianice
The Gospel of Herbert





I do not trust this.....Gospel of Herbert.
It will not take me to Eden.

80 posted on 04/06/2006 1:37:37 PM PDT by macamadamia
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