Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Study, in a First, Explains Evolution's Molecular Advance
NY Times ^ | April 7, 2006 | KENNETH CHANG

Posted on 04/07/2006 9:54:33 AM PDT by neverdem

By reconstructing ancient genes from long-extinct animals, scientists have for the first time demonstrated the step-by-step progression of how evolution created a new piece of molecular machinery by reusing and modifying existing parts.

The researchers say the findings, published today in the journal Science, offer a counterargument to doubters of evolution who question how a progression of small changes could produce the intricate mechanisms found in living cells.

"The evolution of complexity is a longstanding issue in evolutionary biology," said Joseph W. Thornton, professor of biology at the University of Oregon and lead author of the paper. "We wanted to understand how this system evolved at the molecular level. There's no scientific controversy over whether this system evolved. The question for scientists is how it evolved, and that's what our study showed."

Charles Darwin wrote in The Origin of Species, "If it would be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

Discoveries like that announced this week of a fish with limblike fins have filled in the transitions between species. New molecular biology techniques let scientists begin to reconstruct how the processes inside a cell evolved over millions of years.

Dr. Thornton's experiments focused on two hormone receptors. One is a component of stress response systems. The other, while similar in shape, takes part in different biological processes, including kidney function in higher animals.

Hormones and hormone receptors are protein molecules that act like pairs of keys and locks. Hormones fit into specific receptors, and that attachment sends a signal to turn on — or turn off — cell functions. The matching of hormones and receptors led to the question of how new hormone-and-receptor pairs evolved, as one without the other would appear to...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: evolution; science
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last
Evolution of Hormone-Receptor Complexity by Molecular Exploitation

According to Darwinian theory, complexity evolves by a stepwise process of elaboration and optimization under natural selection. Biological systems composed of tightly integrated parts seem to challenge this view, because it is not obvious how any element's function can be selected for unless the partners with which it interacts are already present. Here we demonstrate how an integrated molecular system—the specific functional interaction between the steroid hormone aldosterone and its partner the mineralocorticoid receptor—evolved by a stepwise Darwinian process. Using ancestral gene resurrection, we show that, long before the hormone evolved, the receptor's affinity for aldosterone was present as a structural by-product of its partnership with chemically similar, more ancient ligands. Introducing two amino acid changes into the ancestral sequence recapitulates the evolution of present-day receptor specificity. Our results indicate that tight interactions can evolve by molecular exploitation—recruitment of an older molecule, previously constrained for a different role, into a new functional complex.

1 posted on 04/07/2006 9:54:34 AM PDT by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry


2 posted on 04/07/2006 9:55:14 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

so, ah... you just feeling frisky, or do you actually *want* to get a whole lot of posts calling you a fool, a marxist, and a god-hater?


3 posted on 04/07/2006 10:18:13 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

===> Placemarker <===
4 posted on 04/07/2006 10:24:12 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Charles Darwin wrote in The Origin of Species, "If it would be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

It's absolutely amazing that almost 150 years later using advanced science that Darwin could never have dreamed about, every new discovery only proves him right while a century and a half of nonstop distractions still haven't come up with the one single piece of evidence that would break his theory down.

5 posted on 04/07/2006 10:28:07 AM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shuckmaster

Good point


6 posted on 04/07/2006 10:30:42 AM PDT by hawkaw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: King Prout
so, ah... you just feeling frisky, or do you actually *want* to get a whole lot of posts calling you a fool, a marxist, and a god-hater?

With my tagline?

7 posted on 04/07/2006 10:33:32 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; Junior
Thanks for the ping, but we've already got two threads going on this subject, although not the same article:

Evolution of 'irreducible complexity' explained.
Two New Discoveries Answer Big Questions In Evolution Theory.

8 posted on 04/07/2006 10:43:30 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
understand how this system evolved at the molecular level

The system is molecular, no doubt about it. They need to focus a little sharper on cell walls, or organelle walls, and less on DNA. The brain is in the cell wall, not the nucleus.

9 posted on 04/07/2006 10:45:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Thanks for posting. The pp you cite in the response section is very underwhelming in terms of evolution. An "even more ancient ligand" for example. What does that mean?

These sort of variations where an amino acid or two change causes slight differences in orders of potency for related ligands is ubiquitous. I'll read this and again thanks for the post.

What was more interesting is they seem to be directly addressing Behe.

10 posted on 04/07/2006 10:48:34 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

that sort of thing has never stopped the Raging Luddites yet.


11 posted on 04/07/2006 10:48:49 AM PDT by King Prout (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the links.


12 posted on 04/07/2006 11:08:01 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..
NASA's Spitzer Finds Hints of Planet Birth Around Dead Star

No Pain, No Collective Gain

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

13 posted on 04/07/2006 12:30:28 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shuckmaster
...while a century and a half of nonstop distractions still haven't come up with the one single piece of evidence that would break his theory down.

You just wait. As soon as the guys at AIG raise a few hundred million dollars more, they will mount an expedition and find Noah's Arc.

14 posted on 04/07/2006 12:34:38 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: js1138; grey_whiskers
I have houseguests this weekend, somebody remind me to read this when I have time :-)

Cheers!

15 posted on 04/07/2006 4:22:33 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
reusing and modifying existing parts

origin?

16 posted on 04/07/2006 7:10:30 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LiteKeeper
origin?

Evolution as a biological theory shows its utulity in explaining changes between proximal ancestors and descendants. It offers little to nothing about the origin of living creatures.

17 posted on 04/07/2006 10:44:10 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Hmmm....this article starts with a completed cell. How did something more complex than anything man has every built just come into existence on a lifeless planet? The NYT is no more credible on the subject of science than it is on politics.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 11:54:01 PM PDT by Mogollon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
And that is it's nemesis. Scientists can boldly say that they have now "discovered" how the changes take place to make new, complex organisms. But they cannot say where the "parts" came from. There can't be an infinite regression. At some point, "matter" has to come into existence. And they can't explain where the information for the blueprints for the first "complex" organs came from. And they can't explain where the energy for assembling the complex organs came from.

Creationists say that there is a Creator God who created the first matter, energy, and information. An all-powerful personal God willed all of that into existence, in a useable complex form. Since that beginning, speciation has taken place, but within boundaries. That is not anti-scientific...no more so than saying many billions of years ago, at the Big Bang, all of the matter, energy, and information in the universe exploded from nothing, randomly, into existence. And all the complex systems of the universe assembled themselves.

That takes a lot of faith...more faith than I as a creationist can muster.

19 posted on 04/08/2006 9:51:19 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: King Prout
...scientists have for the first time demonstrated the step-by-step progression of how evolution created...

Evolution is their god?

20 posted on 04/08/2006 10:05:37 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-26 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson