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Putin Vindicated?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 04/07/2006 | Dan darling

Posted on 04/07/2006 9:55:38 AM PDT by eyespysomething

Putin Vindicated?

In 2004 the Russian president said that Saddam had planned terrorist attacks on America. New Iraqi documents suggest he may have been right.

IN JULY 2004, DURING THE COURSE of a little-publicized event while on a visit to Kazakhstan, Russian President Vladimir Putin made some unusual remarks:

I can confirm that after the events of September 11, 2001, and up to the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the United States and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations.

Putin's remarks were little noticed by the American press, coming as they did so soon after the release of the 9/11 Commission's report. Moreover, despite his strong opposition to the war in Iraq, Putin was unabashedly in favor of Bush's reelection, having earlier criticized Senator Kerry for supporting unilateral action against Serbia while opposing it with regard to Iraq. Putin went so far as to claim in October 2004 that "The goal of international terrorism is to prevent the election of President Bush to a second term."

And one of the newly-released Iraqi documents, BIAP 2003-000654, indicates that Putin may have been on to something. On page 6 of the document it is revealed that:

The top secret letter 2205 of the Military Branch of Al Qadisya on 4/3/2001 announced by the top secret letter 246 from the Command of the military sector of Zi Kar on 8/3/2001 announced to us by the top secret letter 154 from the Command of Ali Military Division on 10/3/2001 we ask to provide that Division with the names of those who desire to volunteer for Suicide Mission to liberate Palestine and to strike American Interests and according what is shown below to please review and inform us.

Written by the commander of Iraq's Ali Bin Abi Taleb Air Base, this document, if authentic, indicates that Iraq was actively recruiting suicide bombers with the intention of targeting U.S. interests at least as far back as early 2001. Nor is this the only document released with the intention of making it clear that Saddam's intentions for carrying out terrorist attacks against other nations--the plans for Blessed July appear to lay out a similar agenda focusing on using the Saddam Fedayeen to carry out a bombing and assassination campaign in London, Iran, and the "self ruled" areas of Iraq, a likely reference to Iraqi Kurdistan. While these documents do not by themselves prove the veracity of Putin's remarks, if they are deemed to be authentic they would appear to indicate that his claims did not occur in a vacuum.

IF EITHER DOCUMENT can be verified as accurate, it would seem to refute a long-standing contention among members of the U.S. intelligence community that Iraq ceased its involvement in international terrorism after its failed 1993 plot to assassinate former President George H.W. Bush. Indeed, the following exchange is reported in former counterterrorism chief Dick Clarke's book Against All Enemies:

[Anti-terror czar Dick Clarke said], "I am unaware of any Iraqi-sponsored terrorism directed at the US since 1993, and I think FBI and CIA concur in that judgment?" CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin replied, "Yes, that is right. We have no evidence of any active Iraqi terrorist threat against the US."

It would be sad to learn that the Russian Federation's intelligence service was better informed as to Iraq's terrorist capabilities than were their American counterparts.

Dan Darling is a counterterrorism consultant.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: evilempire; gnfi; intelligence; iraq; iraqiintelligence; jihadinamerica; kgbputin; pootypoot; prewardocs; putin; russia; terrorism; vladimirputin
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Bears repeating:

It would be sad to learn that the Russian Federation's intelligence service was better informed as to Iraq's terrorist capabilities than were their American counterparts.

1 posted on 04/07/2006 9:55:41 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: jveritas

ping


2 posted on 04/07/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; SwatTeam; ...
Putin Vindicated?

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

Also here

Documents from the Harmony Database

jveritas’s blog

Ray Robison’s blog

3 posted on 04/07/2006 9:57:02 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: eyespysomething
It would be sad to learn that the Russian Federation's intelligence service was better informed as to Iraq's terrorist capabilities than were their American counterparts.

Why? The Russians were practically in bed with Saddam. Remember the GPS jaming devices given to Iraq by Russia?

4 posted on 04/07/2006 9:57:41 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: eyespysomething

Great article by Dan Darling at the Weekly Standard. Let the truth come out.


5 posted on 04/07/2006 9:59:19 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
The top secret letter 2205 of the Military Branch of Al Qadisya on 4/3/2001 announced by the top secret letter 246 from the Command of the military sector of Zi Kar on 8/3/2001 announced to us by the top secret letter 154 from the Command of Ali Military Division on 10/3/2001 we ask to provide that Division with the names of those who desire to volunteer for Suicide Mission to liberate Palestine and to strike American Interests and according what is shown below to please review and inform us.
6 posted on 04/07/2006 10:01:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: frogjerk

Precisely.

Nobody had a better insight into Iraq than the Russians.

What I'm wondering is why Putin wanted Bush elected. What was in it for him ? Wheels within wheels.


7 posted on 04/07/2006 10:02:40 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: eyespysomething

I think this means that BUSH was vindicated


8 posted on 04/07/2006 10:07:49 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("Some of our successes will be known only to a few." W 2001)
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks for the ping; Dan Darling used to be a freeper although I've forgotten his screen name.


9 posted on 04/07/2006 10:08:07 AM PDT by Peach
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To: eyespysomething

Yes it would be sad but probably not too surprising. The Russians were close to Saddam and we were absent from Iraq for years, other than the short Gulf War.


10 posted on 04/07/2006 10:08:17 AM PDT by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: buwaya

"What I'm wondering is why Putin wanted Bush elected. What was in it for him ? Wheels within wheels."

Money. The Communist Russians are not yet wealthy enough to go back to the Soviet way of life. With Kerry in office, they would have to make their play.


11 posted on 04/07/2006 10:08:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (To Serve Man......It's a cookbook!)
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To: eyespysomething

Dan Darling really knows his stuff when it come to terrorists.

But when it comes to Russians knowing more about Iraq/Saddam than our Intelligence guys, I think it's pretty much expected. Not sad.


12 posted on 04/07/2006 10:08:56 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: eyespysomething
Even if there was video of Sadamm shaking hands w/ Osama agreeing to help him attack the US this administration and the homo republicans would be silent. Here we have a plethora of crow for the nay sayers on the left to feast on. This should be a piece of cake. Of course we are reduced to reading it on just freerepublic and the Weekly Standard. I love W but come on! Reagan would have addressed the nation 8 times already. Someone please convince me I am wrong.
13 posted on 04/07/2006 10:09:01 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: eyespysomething; jveritas

Weekly Standard should have given jveritas credit for translating the document.


14 posted on 04/07/2006 10:18:06 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: frogjerk; eyespysomething
>>>Why? The Russians were practically in bed with Saddam.<<<

Exactly - Russia was deeply involved in Iraq both before and after 9/11. It is thought that they had a major role in getting Saddam's WMD out of the county just prior to the Iraq war.

It would be a surprise if they didn't know what was going on.

However, it is no surprise that counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke didn't know what was happening!! He is proof of the adage that intelligence and politics are incompatible.

The fact that the Russians apparently didn't share this intelligence with us directly shows that Putin & Co. are not to be trusted.

15 posted on 04/07/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: SittinYonder; jveritas; Jim Robinson; onyx; Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Weekly Standard should have given jveritas credit for translating the document."

Do these guys realize that when they publish something like this without giving credit to the orginal author and site, they may be setting themselves up for Plagiarism charges?

A lot of future journalists in college set around all day using their computers to see who had the original publication and thought on many issues. It might not happen for a few years, but when it does it can be very embarrassing. Only a rat senator like Biden can get by with it without damages to his reputation.


16 posted on 04/07/2006 10:26:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Grampa Dave
Only a rat senator like Biden can get by with it without damages to his reputation.

Well that's because of what Biden's reputation already was ... plagarist, if anything, improves people's impression of him.

17 posted on 04/07/2006 10:30:22 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Grampa Dave; All

When it comes the Weekly Standard I have agreed with them to publish my translations with no need to credit me in the article. However I will ask them if they can mention Free Republic.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 10:33:19 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: slowhand520

Even if there was video of Sadamm shaking hands w/ Osama agreeing to help him attack the US this administration and the homo republicans would be silent. Here we have a plethora of crow for the nay sayers on the left to feast on. This should be a piece of cake. Of course we are reduced to reading it on just freerepublic and the Weekly Standard. I love W but come on! Reagan would have addressed the nation 8 times already. Someone please convince me I am wrong."



I too am extremely frustrated with this. Every time I try to make a public post regarding these documents and jveritas' translations (which I commend him for the hard work and dedication on), I get laughed at for two reasons:

1) the government disclaimer that they have not validated the document. (yes, I know they have not NOT validated them either. doesn't matter)

and 2) the argument that there is NO WAY Bush would NOT be speaking up about this information and vindicating himself, IF it were true.

I can make an argument with the first, the second leaves me stumped, and I'm not even buying my own argument on that one.


19 posted on 04/07/2006 10:34:41 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: eyespysomething

The "bush lied" crowd is beginning to suffer 1000 cuts as these documents continue to come to light.

It is SWEET indeed.


20 posted on 04/07/2006 10:35:27 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Calpernia

BTTT


21 posted on 04/07/2006 10:35:56 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Katherine Harris is 'In It to Win It' .....Go here: http://www.electharris.org/)
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To: jveritas

"When it comes the Weekly Standard I have agreed with them to publish my translations with no need to credit me in the article. However I will ask them if they can mention Free Republic."

Decades ago, I was trying to write my MBA Master Thesis, and I turned what I thought was my final and very expensive professionally typed (before word processing) Thesis.

It came back refused. I had cited every real quote that I listed appropriately. My failure was to quote some standard management mantras without citing who made the quote/manta. After a conference call with the Dean of English, the MBA program, the school's lawyer and my professor, I made the citations for each of the mantras.

After graduation, I discussed this with the Dean of the English Department. She said that if she had allowed me to get by with that, I and the university might get caught up in plagerism or at least mimicing charges someday in the future.

Ownership of originality of ideas and concepts will become a huge legal quagmire before this decade is over. De facto ownership by not acknowledging the orginator is not wise in today's world.


22 posted on 04/07/2006 10:48:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: slowhand520
this administration and the homo republicans

WTF does that mean?

23 posted on 04/07/2006 10:51:02 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Tokra

I meant the linguini spine Rinos in the House and Senate


24 posted on 04/07/2006 11:02:57 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: frogjerk
Definitely in bed together:

Moscow had informants inside U.S. Central Command whose information on the March 2003 invasion of Iraq was relayed to dictator Saddam Hussein days before American troops ousted him from power, according to a Defense Department history released yesterday.

And, as U.S. troops encircled Baghdad in April, Russia's ambassador fed information from Moscow's intelligence service to Saddam's regime regarding U.S. troop movements.

Moscow spies tipped Saddam on U.S. war plan

Not to mention helping them move the WMDs. Putin cannot be trusted.

25 posted on 04/07/2006 11:11:02 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Amen!


26 posted on 04/07/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: jveritas; Grampa Dave

When it comes the Weekly Standard I have agreed with them to publish my translations with no need to credit me in the article. However I will ask them if they can mention Free Republic.



Ask them to mention FReeper jveritas too.


27 posted on 04/07/2006 12:06:16 PM PDT by onyx (It's easier to indict a ham sandwich or Tom DeLay than it is to indict a Democrat.)
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To: eyespysomething
Bears repeating:


28 posted on 04/07/2006 12:14:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

lol!


29 posted on 04/07/2006 12:37:17 PM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: eyespysomething

bttt


30 posted on 04/07/2006 12:55:13 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: eyespysomething
It would be sad to learn that the Russian Federation's intelligence service was better informed as to Iraq's terrorist capabilities than were their American counterparts.

But not at all surprising.

31 posted on 04/07/2006 1:11:12 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: eyespysomething
I was told by a source that I can not reveal that, the Russians are in bed with us in the WOT. For reasons I can't even understand, the appearance MUST be deceiving. Probably has something to do with the 'keeping your friends close and your enemies closer' theory.
32 posted on 04/07/2006 1:12:32 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: eyespysomething
Sad to learn but not in the least surprising. There's quite a collection of grossly inaccurate CIA intelligence assessments on China, the former USSR, the former East Germany, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, etc. over the past few decades.
33 posted on 04/07/2006 1:17:35 PM PDT by katana
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 04/07/2006 1:20:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: frogjerk
The Ukes gave Saddam the GPS jammers IIRC.
35 posted on 04/07/2006 1:28:00 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (ABAJO FIDEL)
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To: Blue State Insurgent
The Ukes gave Saddam the GPS jammers IIRC.

Wasn't that before the Orange Revolution?

36 posted on 04/07/2006 1:29:33 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Brings bck memories, .... I had some errors on the Front Page.


37 posted on 04/07/2006 1:30:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: buwaya

Putin wanted Bush reelected because then Russia could play balance-of-power politics. America retreating would oblige Russia to deal with militant Islam and Chinese expansionism. As long as America is engaged, he can play America and our common natural enemies off against each other.

(Yes, wheels within wheels: There's a reason 'byzantine' got it's secondary meaning. We Orthodox are Christians, but we're still Eastern.)


38 posted on 04/07/2006 2:42:03 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: eyespysomething

Either that, or they have a more vivid imagination than our intelligence people do. That's why Pravda is best described as the National Enquirer of the authoritarian left.


39 posted on 04/07/2006 3:00:56 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: frogjerk

Yep.


40 posted on 04/07/2006 5:17:59 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (ABAJO FIDEL)
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To: wolfcreek
If you look at what is going on within Russia, my guess is that the Russians are using the pretext of cooperation on the WOT to cover their return to totalitarianism. They are also colluding with Islamic terrorist sponsoring regimes and arming just about everyone of the publicly defined 'enemies of the US'. In other words what you heard was disinfo from a Russian placed spy or asset. Turn them in NOW.
41 posted on 04/07/2006 5:24:35 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: eyespysomething

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42 posted on 04/07/2006 6:27:43 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: eyespysomething

Unless Saddam had collapsed into complete dotage after a massive brain trauma, to predict that he'd be looking for some form of vengeance would take minimal IQ of 0.5 - and one could be a layman, not an intelligence professional.


43 posted on 04/07/2006 9:43:15 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

>> Unless Saddam had collapsed into complete dotage after a massive brain trauma, to predict that he'd be looking for some form of vengeance would take minimal IQ of 0.5 - and one could be a layman, not an intelligence professional... <<

You're presuming he intended to get caught and held responsible.

As it was, he ran terrorist airliner-takeover schools in Northern Iraq, and the media denies he had anything to do with 9/11. So his strategy was quite simple: Get Saudis to do it, and all his sycophants in the US media will say, "why attack Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia." Don't forget: Hussein's number one foreign-policy goal was regime change in Saudi Arabia.


44 posted on 04/07/2006 10:59:18 PM PDT by dangus
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To: frogjerk

Remember the GPS jaming devices given to Iraq by Russia?==

There were no proves of it.


45 posted on 04/08/2006 8:29:53 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: The_Reader_David

America retreating would oblige Russia to deal with militant Islam and Chinese expansionism.==

IMHO that is true.

As long as America is engaged, he can play America and our common natural enemies off against each other. ==

IMHO it is far fetched. Because such tactics may unite your "enemies" so they both attack you to punish for betrayal.


46 posted on 04/08/2006 8:37:13 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: justa-hairyape

If you look at what is going on within Russia, my guess is that the Russians are using the pretext of cooperation on the WOT to cover their return to totalitarianism.==

Yeah?:). If Russia will decide to return to totalitarism then she won't ask anyone or disgise her actions. Everyone might see it clear.
Now I see some authoritarism of Putin. But very very far from Stalin' totalitarism. Believe me I know what I say.


47 posted on 04/08/2006 8:39:52 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: dangus

I merely presume that he had typical arab mentality and a knee-jerk reflex. As for him trying have a billt-in deniability - goes without question.


48 posted on 04/08/2006 8:43:22 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: wolfcreek; jveritas; Tailgunner Joe; Rodney King; frogjerk; buwaya; Peach; jazusamo; EQAndyBuzz; ...
I was told by a source that I can not reveal that, the Russians are in bed with us in the WOT. For reasons I can't even understand, the appearance MUST be deceiving. Probably has something to do with the 'keeping your friends close and your enemies closer' theory.

The Russianphobes see Russia as our enemy, but those in the intelligence community do not agree. The following is an e-mail I recently received from Dan Darling.

Mr. Xxxxx,

I am deeply flattered by your comments and please convey my best wishes to your wife's nephew.

The problem that exists in recognizing the Chechen ties to al-Qaeda (or al-Qaeda ties to other entities) is that among both the expert and the chattering classes there is deep unease about the way that Russia has conducted its campaign in Chechnya, but instead of offering constructive criticism they have attempted to deny the conflict any legitimacy by trying to engage in extremely legalistic and straw man arguments surrounding the ties of a number of Chechen and in particular Chechen Arab leaders and al-Qaeda. It's pure cognitive dissonance if you refuse to recognize that Khattab was bin Laden's protege, Abu Walid was from the same tribe as 3 of the 9/11 hijackers, Abu Omar al-Saif has openly called for Saudi al-Qaeda members to fight in Iraq, and Abu Hafs al-Urduni is openly allied with Zarqawi and then argue that there is no al-Qaeda connection to Chechnya.

Another issue that exists as a result of the Cold War in conservative circles is that a lot of people are still operating on Cold War-era blinders and hence aren't seeing the forest amidst all the trees.

Best,
Dan
49 posted on 04/08/2006 2:04:50 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
>>>,i>The "bush lied" crowd is beginning to suffer 1000 cuts as these documents continue to come to light. <<<

Show me the blood!! There isn't any. Why?

Because the only place these translated documents are given any weight, or even mentioned at all, is in the conservative media. Until the other 65% of the people in America see it in the NYT or on NBC - it ain't happening.

50 posted on 04/08/2006 3:42:47 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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