Posted on 04/12/2006 7:41:53 AM PDT by presidio9
They are the same cross.
Second one. Here's how they found it. The photo was taken by firefighters. They took comfort in the setting that it was found, standing upright at the epicenter of the pile. Obviously crosses were an integral part of the building process.
I'm Jewish, a "native" New Yorker, a former WTC worker, and someone who lost folks that day.
The rage/fear/anger the libs feel when they see that cross makes the solution clear:
Keep it. Display it.
Rust itself can be an effective protective coating.
If they paint it yellow green -- yeesh!
Another coating on top of the zinc chromate primer........
Sorry, but they are not. In the first picture the upright I-beam has valleys that face to the sides. In the second the upright I-beam has valleys that face to the front and back.
Thanks for the info!
Adam, one day that cross will mean somthing to you.(Phi 2:10-11), Yes even you.
I actually think all of this huge effort...millions in man-hours to build the right memorial...the various fights and legal battles yet to come....ought to be settled here and now. No memorial...except the dang 9/11 cross. Don't even paint the thing. Don't plant flowers around it. Nothing. Thats WTC steel...and it ought to stay there until NYC is covered with a 1,000 ft glacier and Xenu returns with the space aliens to reclaim Brooklyn as the sacred shore (well...or until Knicks win the championship again).
"Adam, one day that cross will mean somthing to you.(Phi 2:10-11), Yes even you"
Don't hold your breath.
thanks for the post and the photos
Not many, I hope. As a non-Christian who disapproves mightily of things like posting the 10 Commandments in courtrooms, I see no reason why the cross should be removed. Lots of people who worked on the rescue and recovery efforts in the horrible days and weeks after the attack, drew comfort from it, and many of them and relatives of people killed in the attack still feel strongly that they want it there. The government didn't put it there, it's on what SHOULD be private property (the property was seized by eminent domain and later leased to a private developer in a sweetheart tax-avoiding deal), and it is in no way attacking any other belief system (unlike the Commandment which says "Thou shalt have no other gods before me"). The cross should stay; it's the Port Authority which should be kicked of the property.
I'm a lifelong practicing Catholic and a religious guy.
Giving this peice of metal any undue attention is silly to me, though. Leave it, remove it, move it: it's all the same to me.
Thanks for the info and pics. As one who has never been able to bring himself to return to the Trade Center since 9/11/01, I appreciate it.
I'm with you to the extent that I don't get caught up in grilled cheese apparitions. Nevertheless, this cross brought comfort to a lot of people. Mass was said underneath it every morning during the recovery operation. In that sense, it is more than a piece of metal to some people, and one would think liberals would be going out of their way to protect the feelings of those who value it.
"Leave it, remove it, move it: it's all the same to me."
Do you feel the same about the crucifixs in your church?
Not at all - a crucifix should remain in a church.
This isn't a crucifix, and this isn't in a church, though.
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