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Lou Dobbs's Disciples (Why America is Growing Richer, Not poorer from Free Trade)
Tech Central Station ^ | 04/17/2006 | Donald Boudreaux

Posted on 04/17/2006 5:46:17 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

Dobbs's Disciples

By Donald Boudreaux | 17 Apr 2006

Economist Paul Craig Roberts has joined recently with the likes of Lou Dobbs and Sen. Charles Schumer to denounce so-called "outsourcing" -- that is, the importation of services.

Roberts is aware that, throughout history, free trade has raised the living standards of ordinary people. But, he says, this historical record is irrelevant to today's world. He explained the reasons in a January 6, 2004, New York Times op-ed written with Sen. Schumer and entitled "Second Thoughts on Free Trade":

"First, new political stability is allowing capital and technology to flow far more freely around the world. Second, strong educational systems are producing tens of millions of intelligent, motivated workers in the developing world, particularly in India and China, who are as capable as the most highly educated workers in the developed world but available to work at a tiny fraction of the cost. Last, inexpensive, high-bandwidth communications make it feasible for large work forces to be located and effectively managed anywhere."

In short, Roberts alleges that the American standard of living is threatened by the world's growing prosperity, improved education, better governance, and greater fluidity of capital and resources to move in search of higher returns.

Roberts' argument is deeply flawed. Its most fundamental defect is his implicit assumption that the world's stock of non-human capital is fixed.

Suppose for the moment that the world does possess only a fixed amount of capital goods -- a fixed amount of factories, robots, machine tools, industrial chemicals, and R&D labs. In this case, Americans would indeed suffer from improvements in foreigners' work ethic, education, and emancipation from their governments' misguided regulations. Some capital goods that today are here, raising the productivity of workers in America, would relocate tomorrow to other countries whose citizens can now use much of this capital more effectively than they could in past. As capital flees America, the productivity of U.S. workers falls because these workers will be partnered with fewer efficiency-enhancing capital goods. Americans' only hope of keeping much of this capital from fleeing would be to accept lower wages. Workers suffer. Capitalists get filthy rich.

But one of the defining features of the modern world is capital's expansiveness, its non-fixity. Capitalists the world over know that in every place governed by a rule of law and marked by a reasonably free market, a strong work ethic, and a spirit of commerce, profits can be made by employing workers there. And this employing of workers is done by creating capital in those places.

As people in China and India become freer, and as advanced technology enables them better to serve customers in America, some jobs currently done in America will indeed be 'outsourced' to these distant lands. But America's loss of some capital to foreign countries creates opportunities for other investments in America.

The reason is that as some capital and jobs leave America, workers -- along with some supply routes and capital equipment remaining in America -- are freed up to work at other tasks that in the past were insufficiently profitable. By freeing up this labor and capital, outsourcing increases the profitability of new investment opportunities. These diligent and honest workers, along with some capital equipment, remain in place, willing to work, all in an economy and culture friendly to enterprise. Perceiving these profit opportunities, entrepreneurs sweep in and create new capital, capital that never before existed and that would not be created were it not for the fresh opportunities opened by outsourcing.

And this new capital creates not only new products for consumers to enjoy but also new jobs for domestic workers.

Don't think me Pollyannaish for predicting that new capital and jobs eventually will be created to replace the capital and jobs attracted abroad by outsourcing. My prediction is based not on fanciful wishes, but on the fact that the capital drawn away from America by outsourcing was profitably invested in America before new foreign opportunities attracted it away.

Why was this capital invested here in the first place? The reason is that property rights in the U.S. are secure, taxes are reasonably low and predictable, corruption is minimal, and American workers are well trained and hard-working. Also, producers and consumers in the U.S. have direct access to history's greatest legal, physical, and economic infrastructure. So when particular goods and services become more profitable to produce elsewhere -- because of the principle of comparative advantage -- these features of the American economy that prompted the initial investment don't disappear. They remain. And they prompt entrepreneurs to create new capital and jobs in place of the departed capital and jobs.

America grows richer, not poorer, as we trade openly with a freer and more prosperous world.

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Don Boudreaux is Chairman of Economics Department at George Mason University.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: brics; castesystem; ccp; china; evergrande; freetrade; loudobbs; newworldorder; nwo; paulkrugman; trade
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1 posted on 04/17/2006 5:46:21 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

put me down in the poorer part. since in my profession, I now have to compete with people in china and india - my salary growth is down the drain, I'm lucky to be able to keep my job frankly.


2 posted on 04/17/2006 5:49:32 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: SirLinksalot
But alot of dumb, lazy and uneducated people are going to be left behind. Waaaaahhhh!
3 posted on 04/17/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT by Now_is_The_Time (Make yourself valuable.)
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To: SirLinksalot

"Why was this capital invested here in the first place? The reason is that ~~~*property rights in the U.S. are secure,*~~~ taxes are reasonably low and predictable, corruption is minimal, and American workers are well trained and hard-working."

I take exception to the statement that our property rights are secure...the US Supreme court has gone a long way of putting the lie to that statement!


4 posted on 04/17/2006 5:55:10 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Wear Red on Fridays to support the troops!!)
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To: SirLinksalot
Lou Dobbs has proclaimed himself champion of the middle class. The GDP may be growing, but the median income have been declining, while insurance, healthcare and education costs continue to rise.

My friend had a very rude shock last week. In business for herself, she found that she owed additional taxes for the last quarter under the alternative minimum tax (AMT) law - which has apparently been unsuspended for 2006. She makes well under $100K!!! She thought some mistake had been made, but not so!

And our own Repub congress isn't looking to cut THIS new (for the middle class) tax anytime soon! This is a direct assault on the middle class, sole proprietors and small business people.

5 posted on 04/17/2006 5:56:36 PM PDT by ziggygrey
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To: TEXOKIE
I take exception to the statement that our property rights are secure...the US Supreme court has gone a long way of putting the lie to that statement!

But, where's the fun in being part of local government if they can't take your property and give it to their buddies under the banner of economic development?

6 posted on 04/17/2006 5:58:51 PM PDT by ziggygrey
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To: SirLinksalot

If one disdains markets, rails against the excesses of capitalism, prefers regulation from the state that stymies competition & growth in order to protect the consumer from being duped into 'unwise' value-purchasing decisions, watches CNN programming to get 'energized' and motivated to stop the skies from falling and, above all else, thinks that Senator Schumer makes a whole lot of sense on economic issues, then maybe the "conservative" label fits one all to well...conservative like 18th century Tories, that is!


7 posted on 04/17/2006 6:03:22 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: oceanview

Importantly China and India practice nothing anything like international "free" trade and employ successful strategies for advancing national rather than individual corporate interests.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 6:15:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: SirLinksalot
NY.started outsourcing business years ago.Upstate NY 30 years ago had so many companies of good stature.The Mohawk Valley is the example I will use due to the familiarity of the situation.Chicago Pneumatic,Remington Rand,Sears,just to name a few.They were driven out because the state and local politicians bleed them dry.The only big company left is the Remington Rifle company,and they are limping.Having many friends employed there,they say it is pretty dismal.To have these politicians stand there and say things will get better is laughable.NY.is a beautiful state but as far as business is concerned,you will be wasting your time.Where Remington Arms is located,ILION,NY,it took three years for a credit union to relocate three blocks away due to the Govt.getting their cut.From the EPA,all the way down to the local level.Then they have the nerve to cry about no jobs.Anyone who is considering opening a business there is out of their mind.Unless they have money to burn.
9 posted on 04/17/2006 6:15:22 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Shermy
The problem is not that America practices free trade, rather it is that so few of our trading partners do.
10 posted on 04/17/2006 6:26:24 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: SirLinksalot
Mr. Bordreax should remember that foreign capital invested in the US serves either to provide interest or to purchase American industries.
Our trade deficit= foreign investments in America. This isn't expansion, but debt for Americans. We are selling our means of production and research to finance cheap foreign consumer goods. Individual families are falling further into debt.
Paul Craig Roberts is an idiot on foreign affairs and has become unhinged in relation to the Bush administration, but he is quite right on economics.
11 posted on 04/17/2006 6:26:48 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Dobbs should quit faking it and either run for office or Geraldo's old job.


12 posted on 04/17/2006 6:30:38 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: Last Dakotan
The problem is not that America practices free trade, rather it is that so few of our trading partners do.

That is a nice myth, but it isn't true. Over time factories will go to places where labor is cheap. researcg jobs will likewise go to places where there is a critical mass of educated people willing to work for less.
Ricardo's theory of competitive advantage becomes less relevant as the bariers to knowledge, shipping, and capital expenditures decrease.

The Corpatist system in Japan and other Asian companies have only hastened a process, which would otherwise be inevitable under free trade.

13 posted on 04/17/2006 6:30:55 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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Over time factories will go to places where labor is cheap. researcg jobs will likewise go to places where there is a critical mass of educated people willing to work for less. Ricardo's theory of competitive advantage becomes less relevant as the bariers to knowledge, shipping, and capital expenditures decrease. The Corpatist system in Japan and other Asian companies have only hastened a process, which would otherwise be inevitable under free trade.

And what does this all these inevitability mean to ordinary Americans ?
14 posted on 04/17/2006 7:05:25 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: oceanview
Your personal career issues do not the whole economy make. So might the buggy whip or whale oil scandal makers have complained at one point. I have been laid off 4 times. Crap happens.

Freepers seem to just suck up the Big Govt Socialist line put out by clowns like Dobbs. Guess LIMITED GOVT is a dead principal with the "Real Conservatives".

15 posted on 04/17/2006 7:06:49 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The Democrat Party. For those who value slogans over solutions.)
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To: SirLinksalot
And what does this all these inevitability mean to ordinary Americans ?
Assuming that we do nothing, we will face bankruptcy followed by declining wages.
Open boarders and Free trade lead to globalized labor force (ie a world-wide proletariate)
16 posted on 04/17/2006 7:09:41 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: MNJohnnie

its not just me, its alot of workers in the private sector middle class.

this limited government you love - tell me, where are its "limits" in allowing visa systems like the H1B? everyone keep talking about "limited" government - limited to what?


17 posted on 04/17/2006 7:09:47 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: SirLinksalot

TechCentralStation is the absolute worst of the so called "conservative" web sites, worse than the WSJ op ed pages, worse than the Weekly Standard. The pundits have around a room temperature IQ it seems, just throwing down a bunch of cheap slogans.

That anyone can defend todays version of "free" trade, how it is practiced, how it is stripping the wealth and technological advantage of the US to other nations that are hostile to the US, how it is taking the US own economic destiny out of her hands, how "free" trade along with near unlimited immigration is going to turn the US into a poor copy of a European social democracy, just is beyond me.


18 posted on 04/17/2006 7:10:15 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: oceanview

Its funny how so many so called "conservatives" are really statists. I wonder how many so called "conservatives" would know that tariffs are mentioned in the constition, and the US govrenmnet used to use tariffs to raise revenues rather than income taxes.


19 posted on 04/17/2006 7:12:53 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: Now_is_The_Time

But when that number of under educated people(and that is a broad definition, some BSEEs even may fall i nto this category because they are "too expensive") reaches a critical mass, they will simpily elect those that will pick more money out of your wallet. Their vote is as good as your Im afraid.


20 posted on 04/17/2006 7:16:07 PM PDT by RFT1
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