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Russia to be neutral in possible Iran-US armed conflict
Itar-Tass ^ | 19APR06 | Itar-Tass

Posted on 04/20/2006 1:21:50 AM PDT by familyop

MOSCOW, April 19 (Itar-Tass) - Russia will maintain neutrality in a possible armed conflict between Iran and the United States, Russian army chief of staff Yuri Baluyevsky stated on Wednesday, as he was answering Itar-Tass questions.

"Unequivocally, and I'm saying it as chief of the General Staff, Russia will not be offering the use of its armed forces on this or that side," Gen Baluyevsky said.

He called for resolving the Iranian nuclear problems through negotiations.

"A diplomatic solution of the Iranian nuclear problem is the only right path; one should walk on it, the nuclear problem should be resolved under strict control by the International Atomic Energy Agency," he underlined.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: action; china; coalition; iran; itsago; letsroll; nuclear; nukerussiatoo; of; russia; the; weapons; willing

1 posted on 04/20/2006 1:21:51 AM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

By "Neutral" They mean they will be selling there best stuff to the Iranians until the bombing starts!


2 posted on 04/20/2006 1:24:34 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: spikeytx86

"Russia will maintain neutrality"


Neutral like the Swiss handling the gold from teeth and jewelry from murdered Jews in WWII?


3 posted on 04/20/2006 1:27:42 AM PDT by MedicalMess
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ping to update. It looks like Iran is a "go" all the way around. China and the UAE have recently made statements to indicate the same.

Writing on the wall for Iran [Even the UAE and China agree.] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1616282/posts

Chinese official holds nuclear talks with Iran - report
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/04/16/afx2672672.html
4 posted on 04/20/2006 1:33:05 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop
Russia will maintain neutrality in a possible armed conflict between Iran and the United States, Russian army chief of staff Yuri Baluyevsky stated on Wednesday, as he was answering Itar-Tass questions.

Then quit selling them military equipment.

5 posted on 04/20/2006 2:23:10 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: familyop

neutral my butt.
Russia is not our friend. Russia will do whatever they can to hurt America. Russia will sell arms and intelligence to Iran that will tell of any troop movements and that will kill American heros.
Hey russia, screw you.


6 posted on 04/20/2006 2:29:54 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: familyop
Yeah, this needs to be addressed before we invade.
7 posted on 04/20/2006 2:31:12 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (A nation without borders is not a nation." --President Reagan)
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To: MedicalMess
(Spikey Taps Nose)
8 posted on 04/20/2006 2:32:52 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Correction: We need to invade before this happens.

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Russia To Sell Air Defense System To Iran

April 19, 2006 8:35 p.m. EST
Shaveta Bansal - All Headline News Contributor

Moscow, Russia (AHN) - Russia will implement a contract to supply Tor-M1 air defense systems to Iran, Chief of General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and First Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Baluyevsky said on Wednesday.

Baluyevsky made the statement after his talks with James Johns, Supreme Commander of the United States and NATO forces in Europe.

Roughly 30 Tor-M1 complexes are planned to be supplied to Tehran which will defend the key state and military facilities, foremost nuclear facilities in Isfahan, Bushehr, Tehran and in the east of the country.

The contract, worth 1.4 billion U.S. dollars, is the biggest arms deal Iran and Russia has ever concluded.

Tor-M1 is an all-weather air defense system intended which ensures effective protection from cruise missiles, guided bombs, warplanes, helicopters, and pilotless and remotely controlled attack aircraft.

9 posted on 04/20/2006 2:45:49 AM PDT by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats!)
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To: Timeout
I think a few of these can take out 30 Tor-M1 complexes in about 15 minutes. I don't think gaining air superiority will be an issues with Iran. Our stealth technology dilutes any threat from this transaction. Russia is making a big mistake and is short-sighted in there decision to make this deal.


10 posted on 04/20/2006 2:56:43 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (A nation without borders is not a nation." --President Reagan)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...
MI Ping

Roughly 30 Tor-M1 complexes are planned to be supplied to Tehran which will defend the key state and military facilities, foremost nuclear facilities in Isfahan, Bushehr, Tehran and in the east of the country.

A little tidbit to add to the EOB files.

11 posted on 04/20/2006 3:00:49 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: Pro-Bush

It's only a mistake for Russia if they don't collect on the contract before we take out the Iranian regime.


12 posted on 04/20/2006 3:04:47 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: spikeytx86

Fortunatly this would be their best stuff - not good enough stuff.

The problem will not be to win airspace or to defeat their heavy arms.

People won't die because of Thor M1 but because of Semtex, .50 sniper rifles and RPGs.

So this is good news actually. Russia gets some Money, Iran get's some targets and the US- Airforce, Navy and Army get's some practice.

The real problem will be - what do you do once your in ? What's the next step in the escalation. How much cash can we litteraly burn there without having the chineese and the russians up our backs. Can we convince the mullahs to go away and the 'normal people' to get used to freedom and applepie ?



13 posted on 04/20/2006 4:21:13 AM PDT by globalheater (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare - Sun Tzu)
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To: familyop

Pootie-poot has already shown us what "neutral" really means.

It means anything that opposes American policy . . . . . . . . and peace for the rest of the world.


14 posted on 04/20/2006 4:21:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: familyop

Poor Russia, first We screw them out of their Iraq contracts and now, Iran. Neutrality would be their best bet.


15 posted on 04/20/2006 5:04:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Pro-Bush; Timeout

Actually, I think the Russians know their helicopters are irrelevant. They just want the cash.

I think it's short-sighted of Putin et al. to try playing balance-of-power politics between the US and Islam, particularly given Russia's Chechen problem, but major powers often use b-of-p vis-a-vis bigger powers.


16 posted on 04/20/2006 5:11:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: ASA Vet

"It's only a mistake for Russia if they don't collect on the contract before we take out the Iranian regime."

It is probably cash before any delivery. The cash has to be Euros or $'s or gold. Oil futures will not count after what happened to the holders of Iraq's oil futures in that recent war.


17 posted on 04/20/2006 6:27:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave

Oil is being priced right now for war. If there's a negotiated settlement, the price is going to fall hard. If there's a war, it'll spike some more but methinks a lot is already priced in.


18 posted on 04/20/2006 6:31:06 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse

I think that you are correct.

Today, I plan to recalculate my loss stop orders on any of our index funds with connections to the oil industry to a current 6-8% max loss on the new gains. That will preserve most of the gains this past month.

Tuesday was the best over all day for our 401ks and IRAS mutual funds and ETF's since the phoney baloney days of the Clintoon/Enron days. The gains were across the board with some of the foriegn funds gaining well over 3% Tuesday and followed by 1+% gains yesterday. Many American funds ran at about 2% for the day. Many of our funds are running at excellent ytd rates versus last year and the 3 years before.

Fidelity's money funds are bringing in about 4.4% current rate and they have a lot of FDIC CDs at well over 5% without that long of a holding time. So I may be trimming off the gains where I can without a penalty re holding the funds for too short of a time.

There are a lot of nice alternatives out there for those of us who look for them.


19 posted on 04/20/2006 6:48:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Pro-Bush

Russia doesn't want this to come to a fight because, once again their equipment will fail to stop us. They were embarrassed in Desert Storm, and saw an immediate drop in sales as our equipment sales increased. As you accurately point out, we can defeat their stuff quickly, though it is still a threat, one American life is too much to lose.


20 posted on 04/20/2006 7:32:13 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: Pro-Bush
How many JSFs do we current have in inventory?
21 posted on 04/20/2006 7:51:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Echo Talon

I think the Russians will do the classic two step and play both sides of the fence. Moscow doesn't want a full blown regional war that could spiral out of control, but they do want to profit from the mullahs as long as they can, and at the same time keep America on the defensive. The Russians will block sanctions from being imposed by the UN (to buy time to continue selling Tehran weapons and intelligence) all the while telling us behind closed doors they are with us in wanting a halt to the Iranian nuclear program but before using any kind of force the world should "exhaust" all diplomatic avenues. Garbage! Moscow will wait until the last minute, then they'll join America and most of Europe in cracking down hard on Tehran. If anything the Iranian president should be most wary of Moscow and it's intentions. Remember how the Russians burned their other "good friend" Venezuela by selling them rebuilt AK-47's and not the new ones they promised? Moscow and Tehran, two capitals filled with liars, crooks, murderers, thieves and terrorists.


22 posted on 04/20/2006 8:18:33 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

Yea, but some evidence exists that Russia help Iraq move its WMD. I don't trust them AT ALL.


23 posted on 04/20/2006 8:21:11 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

I'm sure the Russians "helped" them move Saddam's WMD, and I wouldn't be surprised if the French also "helped." Saddam probably paid the Russians and French to transfer the WMD. Moscow and Paris (and Berlin) only thought about Saddam's oil and money, that's why they didn't want us to liberate the Iraqi people. They knew how dangerous he was, but they all made billions off him and didn't want it to stop. Now the Russians are making billions off the Iranians and they don't want that to stop, until they know they have to in order to avert war.


24 posted on 04/20/2006 8:30:24 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

yep.


25 posted on 04/20/2006 8:33:57 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: familyop
Russia speaks out of both sides of it's mouth. - OB1

China, Russia welcome Iran into the fold

26 posted on 04/20/2006 8:41:26 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !! BUILD THE WALL! PROTECT OUR BORDERS!)
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To: spikeytx86

Hu Jinto told Bush today that he would be neutral in any Iranian conflict. But Hu keeps selling Iran weapons, just like Putin does.


27 posted on 04/20/2006 2:38:25 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Hu Jinto is the leader of China


28 posted on 04/20/2006 2:39:20 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: familyop

Hmm, lemme think about this.

Russia wants to be a very neutral player in this potential conflict. They say they have no dog in the fight.

Russia gets energy supplies from Iran and has been markedly unhelpful to the U.S. including being uncooperative before the Useless Nations.

Russia says let's just let the IAEA resolve things. Well, what is the IAEA's track record on this sort of thing? Hmm, Iraq? Hmm, Iran?

I say let's bomb Iraq, Russia and the Useless Nations into smithereens since that is what the MacArthur Foundation would favor. Russia likes history, right?


29 posted on 04/20/2006 6:49:20 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: familyop

"In June of that year, Stalin appeared to endorse the plans of North Korean Communist leader Kim Il Sung to attack South Korea, assuming—according to documents that have since come to light—that the United States and other major powers would not get involved. "


30 posted on 04/20/2006 6:59:24 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: familyop

"In late 1949 the position of the US Army was that Korea was of "little strategic value". A National Security policy paper of December 1949, which sought to apply the doctrine of "containment" of Soviet expansion to the Far East, established our defensive perimeter as running from the Aleutians to Japan, and then to the Ryukyu Islands and to the Philippines. In retrospect, many feel the public announcement of the defense perimeter outside of Korea implied a lack of will to defend Korea and was an invitation to the North Korean invasion."


31 posted on 04/20/2006 7:01:00 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: familyop

It's green lights across the board, but it will be the US going in alone. The rest of the world will breathe a sigh of relief, but also watch the US somewhat anxiously afterwards.


32 posted on 04/20/2006 7:03:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Timeout

Yep... just like those super duper jammer devices Russia sold to Saddam.

The ones that we ended up using to pinpoint targets of interest.

Junk or crazy covert op in that case... I'm betting on the former.


33 posted on 04/27/2006 9:49:55 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
the west is scared i think and they are right 2 b scared, he is not like the rest I've seen
34 posted on 05/15/2006 10:21:58 PM PDT by makk
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