Posted on 04/20/2006 6:12:54 AM PDT by 300magnum
TUCSON, Ariz. - Minuteman border watch leader Chris Simcox has a message for President Bush: Build new security fencing along the border with Mexico or private citizens will.
Simcox said Wednesday that he's sending an ultimatum to the president, through the media, of course — "You can't get through to the president any other way" — to deploy military reserves and the National Guard to the Arizona border by May 25.
Or, Simcox said, by the Memorial Day weekend Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers and supporters will break ground to start erecting fencing privately.
"We have had landowners approach," Simcox said in an interview. "We've been working on this idea for a while. We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise."
Simcox said a half-dozen landowners along the Arizona-Mexico border have said they will allow fencing to be placed on their borderlands, and others in California, Texas and New Mexico have agreed to do so as well.
"Certainly, as with everything else, we're only able to cover a small portion of the border," Simcox said. "The state and federal government have bought up most of the land around the border. I suspect that's why we'll never get control of the border."
But he said the plan is to put up secure fencing that truly will be an effective deterrent, and to show how easily it can be accomplished.
Simcox gave this description of the envisioned barrier-and-fencing complex:
Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.
Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.
"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."
Simcox said supporters will try to build the fencing with volunteer labor. Surveyors and contractors have offered to help with the design and survey work, he said, and some have said they will provide heavy equipment.
Simcox said those involved in the planning hope to keep costs to between $125 and $150 a foot.
Access to land literally on the border is an issue because so much is state-leased trust property or federally owned, he said.
"You may have to deal with a situation where private property owners erect their own fences and may be faced with the president sending the National Guard to prevent them from protecting their private property," Simcox said.
He said the Minuteman plan is "to keep turning up the heat" until President Bush has to respond somehow.
We are talking about some really remote areas, anyway, I expect that they've done their homework.
How would you stop illegals from crossing our border?
Hah! You're probably right.
No they will say its too expensive to build a fence since Unions MUST be used... Inflating the cost of building 1000%.. or some other nonsense UNTIL they can get the illegal aliens legalized.. and effect ALL future elections.. Did I say ALL FUTURE ELECTIONS?.. Oh! yeah..
Why don't they just build the Berlin Wall while they're at it?
The so called "Minute Men" have become an embarrassment to America and a disgrace to the name they have stolen.>>>>>>>>>
What are YOU doing to help the cause? Keyboard Commando....go get em tiger.
Sounds great but how much you want to bet the permits for fence construction get denied or some other building code snafu would prevent something like this?
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Thanks, MadeInAmerica! I don't know what LM1888's agenda is but he's way off base here. I was going to respond to this statement but had already responded to an earlier one. I'm glad you did for me.
I get the feeling this guy is either Hispanic, an employer of Hispanics, both, or a DU that's been around and undercover for a few years. Whatever. His posts are showing him to be a jerk. Just because one is against illegal immigration does not make one a bigot. I live in a community that has a large Hispanic population (for its size). I welcome them as long as they're here legally. But if illegal, I'll be the first to wish them a safe trip home before DHS comes a' calling.
RACIST STATEMENT OF THE DAY!!
YOU seem to be saying you were around BEFORE there were few "cultures" in NM and that now you *know* the place is better for it? I always laugh at people who are as misinformed as you are except you're to derainged to laugh at.
So, since you are of the mistaken belief that **diversity** is the greatest asset a state/country can have, why don't you try and get some cannibals and maybe a few suicide bombers admitted to your state? Afterall, diversity is always better and tolerance the greatest virtue of all. Just go away loser.
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I live in New Mexico very near the border. I'm guessing he lives in Santa Fe, a liberal haven, far from the border and all of the problems on the border. If he doesn't live in Santa Fe then he missed a bet because he already speaks the language.
He is right about the many cultures in New Mexico and I do think it makes this state better in many ways. The many cultures that make this state great have been here for many, many years and I do not see how anyone could equate them with illegals. Not even close, illegals are an invasion and they are ruining the United States. It has nothing to do with race or culture or any other hogwash. It has to do with people entering illegally that should be stopped.
Anyone who wants to come into this country needs to do so legally or not at all.
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I'd like to see the graded area between the fences laced with anti-personnel and anti-vehicle mines. Place signs every few meters on the Mexican side that say "If you cross this fence, you will die."
How about adding dogs - rotweilers, pit bulls, great danes, etc all along the border!
You made very good points. Anyone who wants to come into this country needs to do it legally or not at all.
LOL! Thanks Cal!
where can I donate money to this effort? Anyone know?????
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I think you have given us a great insight on just WHO and WHAT you are and what you stand for.
Laugh while you can.
I don't know where LPM1888 went. He stopped posting shortly before your reply. I'm beginning to suspect he may be involved with that Hispanic organization that's helping to organize the protests. His posts about bigotry and racism sure sound like it.
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