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1999, 2000 Iraqi memos: Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT.
Pentagon/FMSO website for Iraq Pre-war documents ^ | April 24 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 04/24/2006 9:45:15 AM PDT by jveritas

This document CMPC-2004-004404 contains memos dated from 1999 and 2000 about Saddam regime procurements of 81 mm in Diameter, 900 mm in Lenght HIGH STRENGTH AND HIGH QUALITY ALUMINUM TUBES. As many of you know the issue of 81 mm High Strength, High Quality Aluminum Tubes were subject for an intensive debate since 2002 because this type of tubes can be used in GAS CENTRIFUGES FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT. Although the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) said in its final report in 2004 the following about the procurement of these tubes “ Baghdad’s interest in high-strength, high-specification aluminum tubes—dual-use items controlled under Annex 3 of the Ongoing Monitoring and Verification Plan as possible centrifuge rotors—is best explained by its efforts to produce 81-mm rockets”. However the ISG could not prove definitively that these very special tubes were not used as part of Saddam Regime attempt to build its Nuclear Programs and Projects (see link to ISG report http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap4.html#sect6). In fact the ISG in its report says also the following “ The limited information found by ISG that ties Iraqi nuclear entities to the tubes also appears related to the 81-mm rocket program and the ISG report also says ” Purported high-level interest in aluminum tubes by Saddam and Iraq’s Deputy Prime Minister—a potential indicator of a program of national importance, such as a centrifuge program.. A 6 March 2003 letter from the Iraqi National Monitoring Directorate (NMD) to the IAEA’s Iraq Nuclear Verification Office (INVO) notes that the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) conducted material composition testing on a sample aluminum tube in early 2001 and In another translated memo “http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620262/posts ” that talks about a secret project by the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission to re-instate the “Nuclear Reactor Simulators” using equipments from the “Old TAMUZ (OZIRAQ) Nuclear Reactor”. All this is a clear indication of Saddam intent to restart the Nuclear Programs.

I will translate the first two pages of this 11 pages document. The first two pages are the Quotation Bid regarding these Special Aluminum Tubes by a company called AL Bashair addressed to Al Rasheed General Company which is a division of the Iraqi Military Manufacturing Commission. Page 3 of the document has the Technical Specification written in English of these Aluminum tubes, Diameter, Length, Specification, Chemical Composition, Price, Manufacturing origin etc,,

Beginning of the Partial Translation of document CMPC-2004-004404

In the Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate

Al-Bashair Trading Co. LTD

Date: 2/11/1999

To: Al Rasheed General Company

Subject: Proposal

Following up to our two letters numbered T 2484 and T 2504 on 30/10 and 1/11/1999 consecutively and attached with it proposals numner/3 related to your invitation numbered (75/3/13) included is our forth proposal related to it:

Please study with the other proposals sent to by our letter above and inform us..

With Regards

Signature…

Mounir Mamdooh Awed

Acting Director

4/11/1999

Best Salute

Indicating to your overture addressed to us regarding the bid numbered (725/99) we are pleased to offer our proposal included and are shown its details of the Technical Specifications, Prices, and the required quantity by you.

Knowing that the cost of a single tube delivered to your respected company warehouses is estimated (105 dollar) one hundred and five American Dollars,

Please take in consideration the following issues:

1. The Manufacturing Origin of the tubes German/European.

2. The equipping will be achieved within a period of 8 months from the date to deposit the amount in our interest and in the order of partial shipments divided during the equipping period above, where the first shipment begins within four months from the period of equipping indicated above.

3. The quantity of tubes required for equipping is 50,000 Tubes.

We hope that our proposal will receive your approval… with the continuous corporation with you to serve the general interest… with regards

Attachments. Schedule of Technical Specifications with prices.

TUBE ALUMUNIUM ALLOY

1. SPECIFICATION: AL-ZN-MG-CU 215/ NO. 7075

2. DIMENSION OF TUBE:

Outside Diameter = 81.0 mm

Inside Diameter = 74.4 mm

Thickness = 3.3 mm

Length = 900 mm.

3. CHEMICAL COMPOSITION

NB ALL TUBES ARE SUBJECTED TO CHEMICAL COATNG IONADIZATION PROCESS TO PREVENT AND SUSTAIN SCRATCHES AND CORROSIONS.

4. PRICE: FOR EACH TUBE = USD 105

5. MANUFACTURING OF ORIGIN: GERMANY OR E.E.C


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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Her is more from the French on the Iraq Aluminum tubes:

A June 4, 2003 article in the Financial Times reported that "French intelligence had seized a separate shipment of tubes to the US, and tested their tolerance by spinning them to 98,000 revolutions per minute, concluding they were too sophisticated to have alternative uses." The Times also reported that Secretary of State Colin Powell was denied permission by French political authorities from using this information in his February 5, 2003 speech before the U.N. Security Council. [7]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_tubes

221 posted on 04/25/2006 9:45:41 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas; usmcobra; Cannoneer No. 4

Hey you two, I wanna introduce you to another FReeper who might be able to help. I've been racking my brain and trying to remember what his full nic was, when he just popped up on my screen. Bet I don't forget what comes after Cannoneer again : )


222 posted on 04/25/2006 3:34:31 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: cookcounty; jveritas; freema
So you agree with me that the Libyan tube are almost the same size as the Iraqi specifications.

I'm wondering if there are any other technical details in the Iraqi specifications that might show up in the Libya enrichment tubes.

jveritas, the document is eleven pages long, is there anything else in it that might point out more similarities, like special machining
223 posted on 04/25/2006 3:34:37 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: freema

I never remember the correct spelling of Canneer's and Tonk's nics. I have to check my notepad to copy them every time.


224 posted on 04/25/2006 3:35:46 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: usmcobra

"Doesn't it suppose that the rocket would be launched from inside the tube?"

From my reply # 193 the inside diameter of these tubes is about 2 7/8ths inch. If these are used to launch missiles, which is not what the article says, they would be launching some missiles that are very small around. I suspect that these tubes are to make the missiles themselves.

"If the solid rocket fuel is installed in the tube, it would be better if the fuel was bonded to the inner walls instead of being able to slide in and out because the inside was slick and free of any scratches."

I am a former sheet metal worker. I am not a military person, but that could be.

"I just was struck by a thought, are these Anodized or Ionized aluminum tubes?"

Good question. I would like to know the answer to that too.


225 posted on 04/25/2006 4:14:16 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"So why not use steel?"

I am not sure. Steel is stronger, but it is also a lot heavier. It also may be that the steel would dent easier if it was thin enough to replace aluminum. If weight and size are a problem the best choice may be aluminum. If weight is not a problem steel is usually better. A mix of the two is also a possibility. The mix is mostly what I used when building airplanes. Very little pure steel and even less pure aluminum.

I am not a weapons person, so I don't know what is needed for missiles or rockets.


226 posted on 04/25/2006 4:22:04 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: usmcobra; jveritas
St. Barbara - Patron Saint of Artillerymen representing , selfless service and sacrifice from the Franciscans Third Order Regular in the Basilica of Sts. Cosmas & Damian at Rome and of the school of Cavalier d'Arpino and dates from around 1650.

227 posted on 04/25/2006 5:22:15 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Calpernia

I forced myself to learn to spell Tonk's : )


228 posted on 04/25/2006 5:23:57 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Calpernia; jveritas; usmcobra

Talking to Hubby about this to see if he knew anything about international lumber measurements (which he didn't) I asked him if he knew anyone who did any international construction. Without skipping a beat he said,
"Dick Cheney."

Sometimes I don't know why I've let him live this long : )


229 posted on 04/25/2006 5:44:10 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: jveritas

bump


230 posted on 04/25/2006 7:26:19 PM PDT by JPJones (First and foremost: I'm a Freeper.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

To where were they shipped? to Iraq? To Libya? To Iran? To Pakistan? to Syria?

Inquiring minds want to know.


231 posted on 04/25/2006 8:02:32 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (An enemy fighter on your 6 is better than no enemy fighter at all.)
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To: jveritas

bttt


232 posted on 04/25/2006 9:58:02 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: jveritas
I'm guessing the Bush Admin. really doesn't care if anyone believes there were WMDs or not. Once We went in, it was a mood point.
233 posted on 04/26/2006 1:06:21 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: txroadkill

There are the tubes plain as day


234 posted on 04/26/2006 4:48:37 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Anodizing alumimum is for abrasian and corroison resistance they process they are talking about seems more complex than just that...perhaps to give it insulating or conducting properties?
235 posted on 04/26/2006 4:51:13 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: jveritas
Isis Online Aluminum Tubing Indicator of Centrifuge Use 2002
236 posted on 04/26/2006 4:55:29 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: jveritas

Is there any indication where the tubes were supposed to be sent or where they ended up at?

50,000 aluminum tubes, each around a yard long had to go somewhere.


237 posted on 04/26/2006 9:03:31 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: usmcobra

I think some of these tubes ( 10,000 or so) were intercepted and taken by the US Navy. I think the Iraqis may have been able to smuggle the rest into Iraq, but I am not positive of this.


238 posted on 04/26/2006 9:07:06 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas; All
Great find! got it linked.

Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.

239 posted on 04/28/2006 3:31:47 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
You don't suppose a little thing like 50,000 tubes at $100+ a pop could be the reason the Germans were not that thrilled with the fall of Saddam, do you?

Especially since Saddam could have purchased 81mm rockets by case for $100 from the Russians. You don't need that quality of aluminum for 81 mm rockets.

240 posted on 04/28/2006 3:37:57 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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