Skip to comments.1999, 2000 Iraqi memos: Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT.
Posted on 04/24/2006 9:45:15 AM PDT by jveritas
This document CMPC-2004-004404 contains memos dated from 1999 and 2000 about Saddam regime procurements of 81 mm in Diameter, 900 mm in Lenght HIGH STRENGTH AND HIGH QUALITY ALUMINUM TUBES. As many of you know the issue of 81 mm High Strength, High Quality Aluminum Tubes were subject for an intensive debate since 2002 because this type of tubes can be used in GAS CENTRIFUGES FOR URANIUM ENRICHMENT. Although the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) said in its final report in 2004 the following about the procurement of these tubes Baghdads interest in high-strength, high-specification aluminum tubesdual-use items controlled under Annex 3 of the Ongoing Monitoring and Verification Plan as possible centrifuge rotorsis best explained by its efforts to produce 81-mm rockets. However the ISG could not prove definitively that these very special tubes were not used as part of Saddam Regime attempt to build its Nuclear Programs and Projects (see link to ISG report http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap4.html#sect6). In fact the ISG in its report says also the following The limited information found by ISG that ties Iraqi nuclear entities to the tubes also appears related to the 81-mm rocket program and the ISG report also says Purported high-level interest in aluminum tubes by Saddam and Iraqs Deputy Prime Ministera potential indicator of a program of national importance, such as a centrifuge program.. A 6 March 2003 letter from the Iraqi National Monitoring Directorate (NMD) to the IAEAs Iraq Nuclear Verification Office (INVO) notes that the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) conducted material composition testing on a sample aluminum tube in early 2001 and In another translated memo http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620262/posts that talks about a secret project by the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission to re-instate the Nuclear Reactor Simulators using equipments from the Old TAMUZ (OZIRAQ) Nuclear Reactor. All this is a clear indication of Saddam intent to restart the Nuclear Programs.
I will translate the first two pages of this 11 pages document. The first two pages are the Quotation Bid regarding these Special Aluminum Tubes by a company called AL Bashair addressed to Al Rasheed General Company which is a division of the Iraqi Military Manufacturing Commission. Page 3 of the document has the Technical Specification written in English of these Aluminum tubes, Diameter, Length, Specification, Chemical Composition, Price, Manufacturing origin etc,,
Beginning of the Partial Translation of document CMPC-2004-004404
In the Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate
Al-Bashair Trading Co. LTD
To: Al Rasheed General Company
Following up to our two letters numbered T 2484 and T 2504 on 30/10 and 1/11/1999 consecutively and attached with it proposals numner/3 related to your invitation numbered (75/3/13) included is our forth proposal related to it:
Please study with the other proposals sent to by our letter above and inform us..
Mounir Mamdooh Awed
Indicating to your overture addressed to us regarding the bid numbered (725/99) we are pleased to offer our proposal included and are shown its details of the Technical Specifications, Prices, and the required quantity by you.
Knowing that the cost of a single tube delivered to your respected company warehouses is estimated (105 dollar) one hundred and five American Dollars,
Please take in consideration the following issues:
1. The Manufacturing Origin of the tubes German/European.
2. The equipping will be achieved within a period of 8 months from the date to deposit the amount in our interest and in the order of partial shipments divided during the equipping period above, where the first shipment begins within four months from the period of equipping indicated above.
3. The quantity of tubes required for equipping is 50,000 Tubes.
We hope that our proposal will receive your approval with the continuous corporation with you to serve the general interest with regards
Attachments. Schedule of Technical Specifications with prices.
TUBE ALUMUNIUM ALLOY
1. SPECIFICATION: AL-ZN-MG-CU 215/ NO. 7075
2. DIMENSION OF TUBE:
Outside Diameter = 81.0 mm
Inside Diameter = 74.4 mm
Thickness = 3.3 mm
Length = 900 mm.
3. CHEMICAL COMPOSITION
NB ALL TUBES ARE SUBJECTED TO CHEMICAL COATNG IONADIZATION PROCESS TO PREVENT AND SUSTAIN SCRATCHES AND CORROSIONS.
4. PRICE: FOR EACH TUBE = USD 105
5. MANUFACTURING OF ORIGIN: GERMANY OR E.E.C
Here we go.
You don't suppose a little thing like 50,000 tubes at $100+ a pop could be the reason the Germans were not that thrilled with the fall of Saddam, do you?
Nah, couldn't be.
Headache to who? :)
1999, 2000 Iraqi memos: Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT
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So Condi was right!
We must not let truth get in the way of the agenda............
Bush Lied ..these were used for bicycles
There was a great show on AQ Kahn on one of the Discovery Channels last week. VERY informative. His method using smaller tubes and bypassing various procdures to come to a smaller and quicker processing of uranium/plutonium was shown to use such tubes.
Everytime I see one of those shows, it completely shatters what Liberals and most Democrats say about Iraq/Iran and recent world events.
Oh, I thought they were for baseball bats and jungle gymns at the renowned Baghdad parks where children and families play.
Send this to Joe Wilson, Scott Ritter and John Kerry.
Another nail in the naysayers coffin. Thanks jveritas.
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..only at first,but then came the need for Kazoo's to lead the giant spiders out of Baghdad
I am probably just being more dense than usual here but what is new in these documents? They obviously ordered the tubes but I don't think that was ever in doubt.
What is in this info that would lead someone to believe that they were to be used for centrifuging and not as rocket parts?
Thanks....I can't believe we're still hearing that there were no WMD by congresscritters on the Sunday Morning BS Programs.
OK, someone who has familiarity with armaments please comment on this: the aluminum tubes had an outer diameter of 81 mm, not an inner diameter of 81 mm. When armaments are being discussed in terms of their dimension (for example 105 mm tank ammunition or 122 mm artillery rocket launcher), wouldn't the meaningful dimension of the tube/barrel from which that round was launched be the inner diameter, and not the outer diameter? So, if the Iraqi intent was to use the tubes for such purposes, why isn't it described as a "74 mm rocket program"? Was the 81-mm program designation invented by the ISG, or was it used by the Iraqis?
Don't be silly. Everyone knows aluminum tubes are essential in the production of baby formula.
I was thinking three-foot long fence posts that you could crush with your hands.
That is very interesting information.
It's not necessarily here, but if you combine the tubes, 500 tons of uranium at Tuwaitha, Mahdi Obeidi's book The Bomb in my Garden, and A.Q. Khan's proliferation of nuclear know-how across the Middle East, it's a short trip to realization.
I like this graphic :)
What if the 81mm also refers to the inner diameter of the tube that is used to launch the rocket?
The media. The liberals. The Ba'athists. ;-)
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You are doing OUTSTANDING work, jveritas! Thank you once again.
That is what I thought :)
It is my understanding (but I can not quote a source off the top of my head) that no other components were found by the ISG to have been part of a procurement designed to produce either 81mm rockets, or tubes to launch rockets, and that therefore it is nothing more than idle speculation to claim that the tubes were intended for use in rocket or artillery launch applications...
You are weclome nutmeg.
More for the MSM to ignore
I always believed Saddam was up to his eyeballs in WMD production. Of course living here in Vermont I have to defend that position everyday. Thanks for the clarification.
Another great job.
Send that great Clintoonian General Zinni a copy of this and ask him why he is now lying about what he said during the Clintoonian presidency.
No problem. I do not know if the ISG thought about the same thing, i.e. why does Saddam need 50,000 81 mm caliber Howitzer?!
I am missing something here. Why isn't this a request for rocket tubes?
Timely translation by jveritas.
How would Zinni spin and lie about this?
Unless you are Barbara Boxer, Dick Turdbin, Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Leaky Leahy, Joe Biden, Joe Wilson, Richard Clarke, Wesley Clark, Kos, Babs Streisand, Arrianna Huffington, Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Chris Matthews, Dana Priest, Dana Milbanks, Katie Couric, etc. etc.
And if you are the ilk of the above mentioned socialist liberals, you don't have the sense that God gave a goat anyway.
That what the ISG think but why does Saddam needs 50,000 81 mm Rocket Launchers? Do you know about any army in the world that has 50,000 81 mm Howitzer launcher?
No argument here.
The letter states the inner diameter is 74.4mm. Is that still suitable for 81 mm rockets?