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Mexico screwed up on illegal immigrants — listen up Republicans
BrookesNews.Com ^ | Monday April 24 2006 | Dick McDonald

Posted on 04/24/2006 3:00:05 PM PDT by Brian Allen

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To: ConsentofGoverned
His dad in a moment of weakness said it in public: " The New World Order"

Correct.

At one time I just couldn't understand President Bush's stance on this. Poll after poll after poll has consistently shown a majority of Americans in favor of a secure border and no shamnesty for the Criminal Aliens that are already here.

Given that, given our precious Rule of Law, given the conservative mindset, how could President Bush be so against it?

The answer is here. This article is almost a year old but it nails down exactly why President Bush has adopted the stance he has. A sorry, sad situation.

This will come to a head soon. And I fear it will not be pretty or peaceful.

41 posted on 04/24/2006 6:43:37 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: Brian Allen
I printed and returned this with a republican fund raising letter I received this week. I also wrote in black marker on their letter, "no money until you enforce the law".


42 posted on 04/24/2006 6:46:11 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Precisely.

Bush is digging his own grave.

Impeachment ? Half the country believes that Bush deliberately lied about Iraqi WMD's. That is no French farce about cigars or stained dresses or what 'is' is. It is about war and peace and 2300 dead Americans.


43 posted on 04/24/2006 6:53:29 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

Good point.


44 posted on 04/24/2006 7:02:51 PM PDT by fantom
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To: Brian Allen

I still agree with the President on this: mass expulsions would be political suicide, no matter what these polls say.

However, it is still early in this debate. The more demostrations, the more alarmed regular people are becoming. Eventually, they may be fine with expulsions of at least some, if they feel their safety and security is in danger from politicos trying to exploit new found power to move the border north.


45 posted on 04/24/2006 7:05:46 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Brian Allen
Bears repeating...'though I think it was said in dubious jest........

"And you may bet on this: If the president and his as-out-of-touch with and/or contemptuous of Americans congressional party members do not respond to Americans' absolute requirement that the...
OK, here it shifts from sarcasm (?) to reality:
"...federal government to resolve the situation that they and otherwise dissimilar pressure groups have constructed for the rest of us...they will see the loathsome (really)...socialists... gain the speakers gavel ...and undo anything the majority had hopes of building from the rubble good ole Jimmy and Slick Willie left behind.

Talk about opportunities lost!

46 posted on 04/24/2006 7:11:59 PM PDT by norton
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To: Wiseghy
I still agree with the President on this: mass expulsions would be political suicide, no matter what these polls say.

It worked for Eisenhower. But then this President is no Eisenhower.

47 posted on 04/24/2006 7:12:45 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: kjo
The Republican Party had better understand very quickly that their asses are on the line over this one.

They don't care. The arrogant GOP bastards think they can just float the "You don't want to elect a Democrat" scare tactic and think we'll run dutifully to the polls this November.

I'm not biting this time. As Dick Cheney said, "They have not led, and the time has come for them to go."

48 posted on 04/24/2006 7:18:46 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Mogollon
"The illegals will leave when there are no jobs or any other types of support available."

BINGO!!! We have a winner!!!

49 posted on 04/24/2006 7:24:18 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: Brian Allen

The mass demonstrations were a big mistake. A lot of American citizens suddenly became alarmed, and that is series.


50 posted on 04/24/2006 7:26:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Wiseghy; HiJinx; B4Ranch

<< I still agree with the President on this: mass expulsions would be political suicide, no matter what these polls say. >>

OK, then.

So lets support those who put their own political comfort and security before their responsibility to our beloved FRaternal Republic.

Although I liked it better in the old days when every one of that shabby gang was called a "Democrat."

As for "mass expulsions," I take it you see no such political risk in the current situation of mass invasion?

I suggest that when we start putting the employers of these criminals in prison we will see the flow reversed.

The expulsions, of course, would not be "mass," in nature.

As criminal aliens are all eventually picked up, for the felonies of which every one of them is already guilty, [ONLY crossing the border is not a felony] by a sort of incremental process they aught be sentenced to a minimum six months in prison, preferably at hard labor building security barriers on both of our land borders and deported in accordance with existing law.

As criminal aliens, of course, none aught have access to America's legal process.


51 posted on 04/24/2006 7:32:33 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
You know, this may be dreaming here, but I wonder...

Think about this, the Republicans would (well, I said I was dreamin) know that if they tried to put through legislation seriously enforcing the border, they would be hit with the filibuster from the Dems and nothing would get done.

But, If the Pubbies and the President allow the Dems to get what appears to be on the right of the issue, then when the vote comes up on the bill, the Dems go first, vote for it and the Pubbies come after supposedly to kill it but vote enmasse in favor of the stricter enforcement pleading a change of concience.

The Rats are trapped and can't even say a word because they "led" the charge.

Now, would I trust the GOP to do that...hell no, but like I said, I have a dream...

52 posted on 04/24/2006 7:39:34 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: Brian Allen

I'll second that post.


53 posted on 04/24/2006 7:42:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: speed_addiction
I have it from a pretty good source that the Border Patrol, Customs and Immigration are going to gear up for a massive crackdown on May 1st when the illegals plan to stage their petty little rants. I will be glued to the TV to watch this happen. Nothing like a cry of, "La Migra!" to get these people to scurrying like roaches the light hits them.

I hope you're right... but my gut feel tells me it will never happen. If we have anywhere from 12-14 million (or upwards of 18-20 million as I have also heard), there may be a few thousand token arrests, and those arrested will be released on "their own recognizence" by the courts as fast as they can release them. I don't think the cowardly Repub politicians along with the traiterous DimWit politicians would ever take serious action to clamp down on illegal immigrants rampaging in the streets. Especially when POTUS GW Bush is the number one proponent of illegals having the right to remain in the country as part of his guest-worker aka amnesty program. Bush has never met a social bloated problem that he couldn't endorse, embrace and throw money at, and use to betray the conservatives who elected him.

54 posted on 04/24/2006 7:46:16 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: ConsentofGoverned
"Former President Clinton called himeself the first black President, President Bush is the first Mexican President!" >>>>>>>>>>>>.......... and like most Mexican presidentes he is hated by the Mexicans..Bush is doing this for reasons that have not been told to the American public, but are well known in the halls of power and in the homes of the elites.

His dad in a moment of weakness said it in public: " The New World Order"

Your last statment as to what Bush Sr said is a chilling thought....but very true as to GW Bush's true one-world, globalist ideology. The statement of "The New World Order" literally sends chills running up & down my spine, as you consider the evil ulterior motives that the power elites are conspiring to put in place -- and GW Bush is in lock step with them.

55 posted on 04/24/2006 8:04:01 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: B4Ranch

<< I'll second that post. >>

Nah.

You are second to none.

And may first-equal it!


56 posted on 04/24/2006 8:46:03 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: rcrngroup; ConsentofGoverned

<< The statement of "The New World Order" literally sends chills running up & down my spine ... >>

Then go take a nap.

The Bushs are not "new world order-ists," those ranks are reserved for the likes of such evil bastards as the Kennedys and Kerrys et al and every other supporter of the Socialist Internationale.

And we've been a part of the "new world order" ever since the socialist traitor Roosevelt's Soviet-agent-larded and directed cabinet, Justice and State departments' brahmanas set up and the every-bit-as-Soviet-agent directed Harry Truman administration locked into place the "new world order" which operated then and operates still from its headquarters on its Rockefeller donated site beside New York's East River


57 posted on 04/24/2006 8:57:09 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

Wow, that was an excellent editorial! Not just grains of truth but chunks of truth.


58 posted on 04/24/2006 8:57:47 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: trubluolyguy
I have it from a pretty good source that the Border Patrol, Customs and Immigration are going to gear up for a massive crackdown on May 1st when the illegals plan to stage their petty little rants.

No. They won't. The government won't allow them to.

If they do, it will be all for show. Arrest a few, make it look like the administration is doing its job. Then let them all go scurrying back to their jobs they took from Americans.
59 posted on 04/24/2006 10:40:29 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
good bye RINO's

The RINOs will not be the ones that get tossed because they will gain Democrat votes.
60 posted on 04/24/2006 11:05:47 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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