Posted on 04/24/2006 3:56:02 PM PDT by primeval patriot
bump
Concur.
We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.
For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16425
Bush is a stammering idiot. Stop dringing the Kool-Aid. If this guy is our leader we are doomed. What next McCain? We could pick leaders out of the phone book and do better.
Apparently a carefully handpicked audience lobbing softball questions.
Read it through completely on the "immigration" issue. Not acceptable! He calls for rational debate but turns around and demagogues.
The President is wrong, weak and confused about it but I have no interest in bashing him on general principle. Your rhetoric is a sludge born of wasted brain cells.
I make a distinction between "bashing" and telling it like it is. I also appreciate venting some steam and letting the flowers whimper as they wilt under it. But it's the very seriousness of this illegals/borders situation and the cluelessness in DC that's keeping a lid on my anger.
We need a solid front on this to have any chance of turning the polidiots and pundidiots on this. It's the Republicans that are split on this. The Dem base is polling almost as strongly as the Pub base. The Dem pols seem to be counting on the split in Pubbie pols to ram an amnesty through.
Amnesty makes a permanent majority for the left for...forever. These commie/socialists have the President's help to do it.
An outpouring of mindless anger(I use the term mindless in the technical sense not the personal sense) doesn't help to coalesce a unity of purpose. It just promotes fear in those who stand by the President against the severest criticism a President has ever endured. Never mind what rightful criticism you think may apply.
It is just a fact that your untempered rage serves to divide not unite. If you think this situation is as serious as you say (I do) then you might consider what I'm getting at and why. That's the best I can do to explain why I flamed you.
We've lost a lot of people, a lot of decent, hardworking people, trying to come in this country in the desert, losing their lives.
*Mr. President, with all things considered, if these people were going by those laws you said (just repeated 2 paragraphs ago) had to be enforced they wouldn’t be losing their lives sneaking into this country.
That's why I'm for a temporary worker program that will…do a job an American won't do, fill a need.
I don’t give a flying fig what you want, Mr. President. What do the American people want?
A tamper-proof card all of a sudden makes interior enforcement work.
Magical, just magical.
Do you know what the petroleum industries net profit as a percent of revenues are compared to other large industries? An understanding of economics, supply chaing, distribution, accounting and finance may help clarify cloudy ignorant think from what one percieves as strictly a dollar per gallon at the pump mentality.
BTW, buy a share of stock from one of the majors, and read their quarterly report.
I have a question for the red meat crowd.
Where are you going to get workers of working age to do work? Don't say legal immigrants from Europe. They have their own demographic and ageing problems and will offer equivalent incentives so you can take that off the table as a reply.
So, answer that question. It's not a matter of work Americans won't do. It's a matter of work there are not enough Americans of working age to do. So where are you going to get workers of working age to do the work?
Legal immigration? So you want to ramp up processing at the Mexico border and let more in with green cards? Okay, . . . but isn't that part of the plan in Congress? Ship them back to the border for processing and let them back in? That would be part of the ramp up, yes? Put them at the back of the line? Okay, with the ramp up, the line traverses in 20 mins.
So . . . what's the problem?
It is flat out amazing to me how this man has destroyed pretty much all of his credibility in so little time.
It's almost like he's TRYING to destroy his own party and presidency.
*shrug*
I am not a Republican I am a conservative American, period! It has always been so. You are obviously incapable of rationale thought. Sorry I wasted your time.
No, it is not. I have not seen one iota of evidence that it is.
Then if there is no plan to increase immigration, where are the working age people going to come from to do the work?
Immigration reform is separate from border security reform. Illegal aliens want to confuse that. So do the Democrats and RINOs. They are invaders not immigrants. These politicians are responding to the demands of illegal foreign nationals not American citizens.
Border security requires addressing two things:
1. Enforcement on the border itself.
2. A rational (as Arlen Spectre put it) means of dealing with the 11 - 20 million illegal aliens here already.
I agree with those who say it is not rational to deal with illegal aliens by "rounding them up." It is not rational economically, socially or politically. What is rational and would be highly effective is to enforce the laws we have on American employers who hire illegal foreign nationals. H.R. 4437, while not perfect, has some very good provisions for doing just that. None of the Senate bills do.
Immigration reform should be considered separately from border security reform. Both in public discussion and in legislative process. It should also be considered secondarily to border security reform.
So Mexico, Central and South America, Africa, India and China are my only choices?
Oh sure Owen, if you say so.
We should be giving priority to immigrants from Poland, Romania, The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Russia, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Australia, England, Ireland, New Zealand, Germany, The Netherlands, Denmark, Greece, Italy and Spain.
And by the way I don't know what incentives those Eastern European governments could possibly afford to offer their citizens.
But for now, we've still got our lips planted on the buttocks of every third world crap-hole south of the Rio Grande. It ain't right, and it needs to change.
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