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New Poll: Americans Prefer House Approach on Immigration
U.S. Newswire ^ | 5-3-2006 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 05/03/2006 7:45:44 PM PDT by nckerr

WASHINGTON, May 3 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language (i.e., avoiding the words "amnesty" or "illegal alien"), finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies. Complete results are on line at:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/2006poll.html.

-- On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only 26 percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to 67 percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

-- While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, only 2 percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology.

-- When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: 69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told that it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement, while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- Support for the House approach was widespread, with 81 percent of Republicans, 72 percent of independents, 57 percent of Democrats, and 53 percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

-- When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, though not as much as for the House bill: 42 percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; 50 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

-- There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself. Exceptions included Hispanics, 62 percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea, and the most liberal voters (progressives), 54 percent of whom approved of it.

-- When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and mass deportations in favor of the House bill; 28 percent want the Senate plan, 12 percent want mass deportations, while 56 percent want the House approach.

-- But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach 64 percent to 30 percent.

-- One reason the public does not like legalization is that they are skeptical of the need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of 77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

-- Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that 73 percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

-- The public also does not accept the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: 71 percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

The Center for Immigration Studies is an independent, non-partisan research organization which examines and critiques the impact of immigration on the United States.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; hr4437; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrationpoll; immigrationreform; invasionusa; openborders; zogby
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To: sinkspur

Well, passing nothing would be better than passing a guestamnesty bill. That would be impossible to undo later. (ie., after the 2006 elections)


201 posted on 05/03/2006 9:55:28 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: sinkspur

Net yet, but that is one answer to the problem of how to make them leave.


202 posted on 05/03/2006 9:55:59 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: SierraWasp
Did you hear Jay Leno the other night?
Arnold Schwarzenegger “is blaming man for global warming. 
And today, Al Gore agreed with him. That's so typical. 
Two cyborgs, ‘Oh, let's blame the humans.’” 



203 posted on 05/03/2006 9:56:10 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
It's not hard if you don't have to actually do the work.

So we should do nothing because it might be difficult or hard? That's not quite the principles this country was founded on. (But it is in keeping with what is being taught in our schools.)
204 posted on 05/03/2006 9:57:27 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: calcowgirl

Now THAT's what I call a "knee slapper!" (big grin!!!)


205 posted on 05/03/2006 9:57:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Without consistent core conservatives in charge, the GOP is fast becoming the Gelded Old Party!!!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
What percentage of illegal aliens should be incarcerated?

What percentage of drug dealers, DUI cases, rapists, murders, child porn producers, embezzlers, terrorist, etc. would you want incarcerated? A crime is a crime, you do it you get caught and prosecuted; you are asking a completely irrelevant question.
206 posted on 05/03/2006 9:57:59 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: lonedawg

It's always America's fault. Just ask a Democrat.


207 posted on 05/03/2006 9:58:06 PM PDT by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Borax Queen

Awesome response! thanks for the ping-a-ling. Some good news for a change!


208 posted on 05/03/2006 9:58:14 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: antceecee

Right on brother, and I'm pretty damn sick of the liberal horsesh@t.


209 posted on 05/03/2006 9:59:53 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

you've got a head like a brick. how many times do people have to say deport them before it sinks in? They can simply write the law that if found guilty, you're gone. Then they only have to hold them long enough to deport them. Does that make you feel better now?


210 posted on 05/03/2006 10:01:02 PM PDT by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosophy - it's a mental illness)
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To: SCHROLL

He's gona want you to answer his question now!


211 posted on 05/03/2006 10:02:17 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: SCHROLL

Did you here me , you gota tell him how many to arrest.(the answer's 10,999,999)


212 posted on 05/03/2006 10:04:53 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: SCHROLL

are you listening to me?


213 posted on 05/03/2006 10:06:10 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: Torie
I'd really like to know when it became the responsibility of a business to check out the immigration status of an applicant?

An ID system is only as good as its ability to stay ahead of those who would circumvent it. As we've seen, there are ways around the SS checks. I don't believe we're going to be able to avoid some sort of national ID, using RFID encrypted chips that would be impossible to duplicate. Present that ID, run it through a check, and you're good to go. Without it, you can't be hired.

That will give the libertarians apoplexy, but it would be virtually foolproof (until hackers figured a way around it).

214 posted on 05/03/2006 10:14:35 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur

wrong again. establish a data base similar to any credit bureau. it includes the name and date of birth associated with any social security number. if they don't match the number is flagged and you've caught your illegal. see how simple that was?


215 posted on 05/03/2006 10:17:22 PM PDT by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosophy - it's a mental illness)
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To: lonedawg

I guess I'm as deaf as he is


216 posted on 05/03/2006 10:21:44 PM PDT by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosophy - it's a mental illness)
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To: sinkspur
It will become the busines of employers to do it, when the law requires it, as it does now. But now, cheap fraudentent documents, do the trick, and the government is in on the game. That needs to change.

That will give the libertarians apoplexy

Since when has THAT bothered you. :)

Let's get real, and make the laws work, and fine tune the laws, to serve America's interests. Let's get real, about who is legal to be hired. And THEN we can discuss who should be legal. As you know, I am not paranoid about illegal Mexicans. I admire their hard working ethic, and think in the LONG term, there will be a huge asset to team America. But let us not play a shell game, and let us have an intelligent system about who is here working, in a system that is works, and who is not. Let us shut down the incentive for masses of folks to run the desert in 110 degrees heat. Let us shut down the system of off the books, and on the books fraudulent document workers.

The ying and the yang.

217 posted on 05/03/2006 10:25:39 PM PDT by Torie
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To: SCHROLL
wrong again. establish a data base similar to any credit bureau. it includes the name and date of birth associated with any social security number. if they don't match the number is flagged and you've caught your illegal. see how simple that was?

And if the SS number has been stolen from a dead person and a new portfolio created?

218 posted on 05/03/2006 10:28:34 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"The prosecution must prove that the employer KNOWINGLY hired an illegal alien, and that means proving a specific state of mind--and that is almost impossible absent an employer confessing."

Well, if he claims to be from Louisville, Ky, the name on his driver's license is Fred Anderson and he has black hair, brown eyes and can't speak a word of English, that would be a pretty good indicator. And there are ways to verify social security numbers, if employers bothered to avail themselves of the technology.

219 posted on 05/03/2006 10:30:33 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Would you put these so called "guest workers" ahead of the 3,000,000 or so folks who are trying to enter our country legally?


220 posted on 05/03/2006 10:30:52 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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