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'Spy' cameras net a $3.3 million haul
the Washington Times ^ | May 8, 2006 | Tarron Lively

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:10:34 AM PDT by pageonetoo

The Metropolitan Police Department collected a record $3.3 million in fines from its automated speed cameras in March -- increasing the five-year-old program's total revenue to more than $100 million.

The amount marks the first time that the program has collected more than $3 million in monthly revenues, even though only 2.2 percent of more than 3 million vehicles monitored in March were cited for speeding, according to police statistics.

The percentage was near 30 percent when the program began in 2001. The percentage in March was the second lowest for a month, with the lowest at 2 percent in February.

Critics of the program say the department is attempting to monitor more vehicles to catch more speeders as their percentages decrease.

Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey said there are no plans to scale back the program, despite the steady decrease of motorists caught speeding...

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...


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I opened an envelope Friday, to find a sheet of paper with three pictures of my TownCar, including a close-up of the license tag. It said I was speeding from 11-15 mph more than the posted limit, but included no speed or data re-inforcing their claims.

I paid the $50 rather than going to the trouble to fight it. It makes me sick, since I was just driving with the rest of the traffic!

1 posted on 05/08/2006 4:10:36 AM PDT by pageonetoo
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To: pageonetoo

And that's why they'll get away with it ... the fine is low enough so that paying it is the easy choice. Wouldn't you feel lousy to find out that your fellow "speeders" in that group of cars all fought it and won?


2 posted on 05/08/2006 4:20:25 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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To: pageonetoo

lemme see. revenues up, number of citations down... Hmmm...
maybe they need to look aththe yellow light timing - a lot of cities do that when revenue falls.

you can tell their focus because the article is all about REVENUE and nothing about SAFETY.


3 posted on 05/08/2006 4:21:21 AM PDT by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: pageonetoo
Should you not wish to form a vigilante committee to destroy those socialist cameras, may I suggest you get a can of this?




4 posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:46 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: pageonetoo
I drive the speed limit. It has caused a lot of near-misses in traffic, along with many people extending the universal greeting. I haven't had a speeding ticket since 1992 and intend to keep it that way to save enriching the state and my auto insurance agent. I sometimes seethe as people pass me going 20 over. I'm so envious.

The system is nuts.
5 posted on 05/08/2006 4:24:08 AM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Glenn; camle
I drive the speed limit.

I don't! But, I don't drive 20 over. Normally, I keep it about 5-7 over. My oldest son is a cop, and assures me that I won't get a ticket. (LOL)

They installed red light cameras first, in DC. then, they contracted to install these speed cameras. They did not post a location, nor did I see it. I just got a picture and a demand for money!

DC is all about money. There are more meter maids and men than most any city I know. They use boots to keep cars until they can be towed. They are little more than pirates!

If my dad wasn't living there, I wouldn't go back again!

6 posted on 05/08/2006 4:37:21 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Glenn
I also drive the speed limit ...I don't like the idea of giving continues permission to be stopped and questioned.

Of course there was the time I was pulled over because it was "suspicious" that I was doing the speed limit ...

Government has authority over criminals ... want more authority ? ... make more criminals .. If everyone would drive the speed limit for a day or two, things would change ..
7 posted on 05/08/2006 4:40:45 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (####### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: pageonetoo

It is just new tax revenue stream. Since virtually everyone speeds, they can collect just about whatever amount they want.


8 posted on 05/08/2006 4:43:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: pageonetoo
$3.3 million in fines from its automated speed cameras in March

That's a lot of tickets!

Any idea if the revenue is split with a third party that operates the system?

9 posted on 05/08/2006 4:46:00 AM PDT by Flyer (Illegal immigration - There, it's been mentioned, now get back on topic)
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To: pageonetoo

I am tempted to say simply, "don't speed", but there is more to it than that.

I acknowledge that the speed limits are there to be followed, but that is not the reason for the cameras.

Public safety is only a secondary concern (and besides, you are probably safer at 11-15 mph over the limit anyway, since you say you were 'going with the flow'). The real focus is revenue, and the government's insatiable desire for it.

I got caught by a red light camera a couple of months back. Did I run the yellow/red light? Yes. Did I do it intentionally? Not really. The tractor trailer in front of me obscured my view of the signal until I had already entered the intersection, but that is no defense. I am guilty, no matter the reason.

My fine; $50. It is cheaper to pay it than fight it, and that is exactly what the system is counting on. (think "tax on the rich") My time is too valuable to worry about fighting a $50 ticket. What disgusts me is that we (the people) are unwilling to hold those accountable for implementing such systems at the ballot box.

On a side note. Here in Wake County, NC the voters gave up their rights to decide bond issues by vote, and instead allow the council members to obligate us (voters) to pay the interest on their "pet" projects, like $2 million "foot bridges" that maybe 100-200 people will use regularly.

Not only are we willing to put up with the "speed camera" or "red-light camera" crap, we willingly allow our county commission to screw us by giving up our rights to check their spending.

When will we learn?


10 posted on 05/08/2006 4:47:06 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: pageonetoo; All
just wait until they start with the automatic withdrawals and/or wage garnishments.

/Orwell Alert

11 posted on 05/08/2006 4:47:56 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (It takes courage to live. Hence, the "culture of death...")
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To: G.Mason

Illegal in Virginia.


12 posted on 05/08/2006 4:51:05 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Flyer

Rockwell International implements a lot of those "red-light camera" systems.

According to their contract, the are guaranteed a minimum revenue. That is why they are such a bad deal.

Initially, the revenue is there to pay Rockwell, and leave a tidy sum for the local government.

Then, as the number of "violations" goes down, the local government must make up for any shortfall in revenue by writing a check to Rockwell. In the end, the cameras end up costing the public more money than they generate, and also end up INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS DUE TO REAR END COLLISIONS.

Read more:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/03/AR2005100301844.html

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/03/314.asp


13 posted on 05/08/2006 4:54:21 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: G.Mason

I just checked out the link. How cool is that! I hadn't seen them before. Did you get one?


14 posted on 05/08/2006 4:57:20 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: pageonetoo
It makes me sick, since I was just driving with the rest of the traffic!

While I totally agree with you, you statement reminded me of an old joke.

A cop pulls a guy over for speeding.

Driver says: "Why'd you stop me, I was traveling at the same speed as everyone else!"

Cop says: "Are you a fisherman?"

Driver says: "Yah, why?"

Cop says: "Well, do you ever catch all the fish?"

15 posted on 05/08/2006 4:58:35 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: R. Scott
"Illegal in Virginia."


Am I to surmise if Virginia outlawed sex, you would become celibate?




16 posted on 05/08/2006 5:06:58 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: Shannon
" I just checked out the link. How cool is that! I hadn't seen them before. Did you get one?"


No I haven't, but I just may get that twenty dollar cover gizmo that is placed over the plate.

These local "would be dictators" are springing up all over the place.




17 posted on 05/08/2006 5:10:55 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: G.Mason
The cameras will never go away, not with the amount of money they're making.

I see cars stopping short all the time so they don't get caught by the cameras. Have to wonder how many accidents are caused by this.

18 posted on 05/08/2006 5:20:51 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: G.Mason
Am I to surmise if Virginia outlawed sex, you would become celibate?

I would not be using the public streets for sex. I would be using the public streets for the illegal tag spray.
19 posted on 05/08/2006 6:13:41 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: RangerM; pageonetoo

That fine in and of itself is not worth contesting, but how about the effect it has on your driving record and insurance rates?

I think the cameras are creepy and basically anti-American as I know it. Pittsburgh, where I live, is not hip and modern enough to install these cameras, and I hope it stays that way.

D


20 posted on 05/08/2006 6:32:03 AM PDT by daviddennis
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