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I'm more upset with Conservatives than I am with George W. Bush

Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84

If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?

If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?

If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?

Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.

And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.

So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.

If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?

George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.

If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.

I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.


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KEYWORDS: notaweinerbot; notstuckonstupid; patronizing; reaganhaters
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To: mwfsu84

If you're so worried, I suggest that YOU get on the phone, emails and letters to Republicans in Congress and the President and ask them to do the same thing that RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman has asked them to do. That is, get to work and give the conservatives what they want or risk losing their support in November.


361 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:06 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: nj26

Your right my Friend but we need to stand to Togeather we can not afford to have spilit in our party my state of wv has been under the thumb of the Dems for 80 years now we must support and become a party of one,


362 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:22 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Stand Togeather)
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To: mystery-ak

Wow. Actual facts. Data. Information.

Thanks for the great post.


363 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:32 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: SouthernFreebird

*yawn* You're from NORTH CAROLINA. Not exactly a big illegal immigrant stop.


364 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:50 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: pollyannaish

[OR...is it possible that if Leftists/Democrats get elected, the GOP will believe they have to move further to the left to win elections?

Sitting out, or even voting third party will send a VERY murky message. Voting in more conservative Republicans and solidifying the parties base may actually be the BEST way to say "Look, we want to move right, not left." ]

I think we have a winner here folks!!! Exactly.


365 posted on 05/08/2006 8:49:29 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: FreeReign
As soon as a border fence is agreed to we'll get the next bit of agitprop. Several hundred thousand people a year enter this country with travel visas and they don't leave. They will be the new cause celeb and the the new unreachable goal post location will be -- mass deportations.

First of all, you have a false premise. Securing the borders is not "unreachable". The politicians just don't want to reach it, despite all their assurances that they do.

Secondly, you're probably right that no matter what the Republicans do, there will always be some people who are unsatisfied. The question is numbers. The number of people who want to see the border secured is far greater than the number of those who want to see mass deportations, and it even includes a great many Hispanics. There is no excuse whatsoever not to do it.

366 posted on 05/08/2006 8:49:43 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: ilovew
*yawn* You're from NORTH CAROLINA. Not exactly a big illegal immigrant stop.

Your joking right...? or are you really that clueless.

367 posted on 05/08/2006 8:50:08 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Conservative Goddess
How was the primary quashed? Typically, the President does not interfere in primaries....but he did in that instance. It cost Toomey the race. GWB's involvement was extraordinary, very much out of the norm.

How did the president "interfere" in the Pa. primary?

Did he set up roadblocks in Toomey districts? Did he tamper with voting machines?

Did he stop anybody in the state of Pa. from voting?

368 posted on 05/08/2006 8:50:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: pollyannaish
Sitting out, or even voting third party will send a VERY murky message.

That is my problem with the "teach them a lesson" approach.

The message we think we're sending may not be the message they receive.

We assume that the contrite Republican leadership will repent of their RINO ways and pledge undying fealty to conservatism.

More likely they will conclude that they lost for lack of centrist and Latino votes.

369 posted on 05/08/2006 8:50:40 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: onyx
I'll stick with THIS GUY'S principles.

That's by far the best post on this thread onyx, and it says it all.

370 posted on 05/08/2006 8:50:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Hunble
Today, both political parties have betrayed the American peopl

That is crap and you know it. The GOP has not called for a Vietnam withdrawal from Iraq. That is the democrats. The GOP has not called for abortion on demand, the democrats have that one in their court. The democrats have not been nominating conservative judges and then getting the confirmed. That is the GOP and yes even the most hated RINO Specter. The only betrayal I see is on the left and on the John Birch society right. The up and coming 3rd party is the laughable Constitution Party and they are in partnership with the John Birch Society. This is the group that tried to take down Reagan once he didn't kneel to their conservative purity. It is now 30 years later and they are still doing everything in their power to do the same to another CONSERVATIVE president.

371 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:01 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

I'm from South Carolina. I'm half an hour from the SC/NC border. So, no, I'm not joking.


372 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:24 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: onyx; Jim Robinson

Good post (and re-post)


373 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:25 PM PDT by pissant
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To: onyx

The unthinkable is a Republican party that only believes socialism is bad when proposed by Democrats. "Compassionate Conservatism" paid for with money extorted under threat of lien/levy of private property is rehashed, renamed, new and improved, lemon-scented Democratic Socialism. The trouble is that Republicans peddling this nonsense don't set off the Republican immune response...but Dems do. To the extent that Republicans are Dem-lite, we have to clean house.


374 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:35 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: sinkspur
At least you stepped into the box.

Bonds has a boo boo and sat out tonight.

375 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:52 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Conservative Goddess; Hunble

Listen up, phonies: Neither of you is a Republican, and as such neither of you will hold the Republicans accountable for anything...and if you don't vote to defeat Democrats, you're not conservatives. Amscray, you couple of fakes!


376 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:59 PM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: jazusamo

We've been invaded here by democrat shills.
Most are '04 sign on's.
See the latest FR poll for proof.


377 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:22 PM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: Texasforever
Thanks for making my exact point.
378 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:31 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: onyx
As they say, the alternative is unthinkable.

Free Republic and today's strong Conservative base was created by people dedicated to political change, because of the abuses of William Jefferson Clinton.

If anything, that Democrate in the White House did more for the Conservative cause, than anyone else in the Republican party.

He (WJC) made us focus upon what was most important.

379 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:42 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Sloth

They don't know that they will get conservative votes no matter what.

What they do know is that when you run the numbers, the disgruntled faction is smaller than the disgruntled faction would be if they did exactly what the disgruntled conservatives wanted.

It's really not rocket science.


380 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:53 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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