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The game has not changed, we face the same enemy, same challenges. The Beast never dies!
May 10, 2006 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/11/2006 12:52:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 05/11/2006 1:43:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Rokke
"I've had enough of you mindless robots trying to name call"

Do you notice just a hint of irony in this statement?

I certainly did, but I bet some don't. People who indulge in hypocrisy usually don't see it.

For those who don't see it - calling someone a "mindless robot" IS name calling.

141 posted on 05/11/2006 6:16:27 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Lurker

Bravo!


142 posted on 05/11/2006 6:17:02 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with what you say about the constitutionalist judges. But what happened in the first place to upset the balance of power in the branches of government? The checks and balances were supposed to prevent the judicial branch from acquiring this power. How do we fix this?


143 posted on 05/11/2006 6:19:58 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: HOTTIEBOY; Jim Robinson

Must get more coffee....

here here = hear hear

Hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!


144 posted on 05/11/2006 6:20:06 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (AIXELSYD TAEB I)
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To: B4Ranch

Thank you for your comments. I agree.


145 posted on 05/11/2006 6:22:30 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't accept the premise that it is the Republican leadership way or the Dem way. This is a false premise. There is a third way, and that is for the leadership of the republicans to start listening to the people. If they do, and start enforcing our borders, there would be no split in the party.

My questions is, why won't the leadership change to accommodate the wishes of the people. They are as responsible for the split by their unwillingness to listen to us and anyone else is.

Why do we have to compromise our ideals? Why can't the leadership compromise? Its because they have decided to do what they want and to not be representative's of the people any longer.

Again, I ask "Why?" They must be receiving some huge benefits to through the party into a split in order to get what they want.

What benefits are they receiving? Can anyone answer that for me?
146 posted on 05/11/2006 6:40:35 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Jim Robinson
I would suggest that the "immigration issue" (which I understand to be the illegal immigration issue) is not nearly as divisive, nor as damaging, as the power struggles between Republicans in the 2006 elections. These sorry excuses for leaders are stabbing one another and the President in the back at every opportunity--blocking appointees, leaking like sieves, backtracking on the Iraq war, and doing their best in general to distance themselves from the President.

They seem to (foolishly) think that if they can only distance themselves from the President (and certain Republican policies) that they can somehow gain the goodwill of the liberals--and of course, this is utterly impossible, because the liberals are incapable of goodwill, or of any decency at all.

I do, in fact, think that the President and many others in the Republican Party are way wrong on immigration. That doesn't mean I'd stoop to voting for a 'Rat, nor does it mean I'll stay home next election. I will, however, use the Primaries where possible to vote for people who are more in line with our nation's values. These illegals are horribly damaging to our country. Just name a category, and they're a drain on the resources of that category--law enforcement, national security, local economy, education, property rights (especially if you live along the border), and on and on.

I do hope it doesn't mean I'm persona non grata on Free Republic. No one, and I mean no one, can ever make me believe the flood of illegals pouring over the border is a good thing for this country, and I can't be made to think or say otherwise. Yup, I can be silenced (via the almighty zot), but it won't change my thinking--and I vote.

147 posted on 05/11/2006 7:05:53 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: B4Ranch

But, with all due respect (and admitting to my own Bush-bot-ism), I don't see how anyone gains anything by splitting the party and/or voting for a 'Rat. If the President and the First Lady do not please you, think for a moment about the alternative: a president and Mrs. Kerry is our country's worst nightmare come true.

That was the "other choice" we had last election. Next election, we might be choosing between a Republican and (horror of horrors) (crossing self) Hillary Clinton. Or, it is being rumored that Kerry might try again. Certainly he has the money (thanks to the missus).

I think we need to keep pointing out how damaging the illegals are to our country--but keep in mind, as we do so, that the 'Rats offer us only worse, not better, "solutions."


148 posted on 05/11/2006 7:13:16 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: loreldan

Matter of fact, although they don't share a border, they still do try to enter, usually through Canada. I'm an equal-opportunity illegal immigrant basher--we have the right to know who is coming into our country, and to say how many can enter, and I don't care which country of origin it is.


149 posted on 05/11/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"Both parties are the same..."

What an idiotic statement. If you'd be as happy under a president Kerry as you are under a President Bush, then maybe you should test drive DU and see if it fits you better. The differences between the parties could not be more expressed more dramatically, than by comparing DU to Free Republic.

150 posted on 05/11/2006 7:20:43 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: LachlanMinnesota
My questions is, why won't the leadership change to accommodate the wishes of the people. They are as responsible for the split by their unwillingness to listen to us and anyone else is.

I can answer it but I'll let you do your own research and draw your own conclusions. There are two GOP's and this has been so since the 50's maybe earlier. It goes back to Nelson Rockefeller and ones who supported him. Rockefeller was a Liberal Republican. These are ones who believe in Big Government Social Spending just like the DEMs but they believe they can manage it better that's all. They are generally also pro-big business which sets them apart from DEM Liberals. Ones such as Senator Prescott Bush father of GHW Bush supported him. They have absolutely little in common with the mainstream GOP but as a minority of the voting GOP they hold the money which gives them control unless as in the case of Reagan the voters say otherwise.

Look up Rockefeller Republicans and see for yourself. There's some interesting stuff out there. My dad knows what they are and mentioned them as I was growing up. Anyone under 45 likely never heard of them but they are still alive within the GOP.

151 posted on 05/11/2006 7:21:35 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nicely said.

Not so sure about the "we are winning" part though. Personally, I think we have some very dark times ahead.

But we win in the end.


152 posted on 05/11/2006 7:36:41 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Havoc
"Real conservatives don't cut and run from their values."

You are correct.

"You seem to have misplaced the operational part of the phrase while accusing others of leaving a party that left them."

Are you talking about "the Conservative Party"? And they "left" you? Sorry, but I support candidates that most closely support my views. And when I can't do that, I vote against the party that least closely represents my views. But I always vote. And until "the Conservative Party" fields a candidate, I will be voting for Republicans or against Democrats.

"They're screwing America at the workplace, at the borders and everywhere that they decide greed is better than patriotism."

That's your opinion. Now perhaps you could find me a Democrat candidate that will more closely fit your values than Republicans like Tancrado or JD Hayworth. And perhaps you can find a Democrat that will appoint conservative judges and get them through a Democrat Congress. Good luck.

"It is being destroyed right now economically for the sake of Globalist aspirations."

More opinion. Our economy is purring along just fine. In fact, almost better than ever.

"right thing is maintaining the status quo"

Who said anything about maintaining the status quo? I'm the one talking about "taking new ground". You are the one talking about sitting on your hands next election.

"Everyone who voted for that treaty should be impeached and the president along with them for deriliction of duty in allowing it to stand."

Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?

"And no party is owed loyalty because of what they Say they are inspite of their actions."

You've really let your emotions separate you from reality. No one is asking you to have loyalty to a party. Jim certainly isn't. The whole point is to use the tools you have to achieve your goals. Right now, like it or not, the best tools you have in national politics are Republicans in control of Congress. I challenge you to explain why a Democrat controlled Congress would be more helpful in achieving conservative goals. When a conservative candidate is on the ballot, by all means vote for him. Fight for him. Do everything you can to get him elected. But on Nov. 2, when you are looking at your actual ballot and have a choice of voting Democrat or Republican, think about who will benefit YOUR cause more. If the answer is Speaker of the House Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, then you accepting defeat and have given up on advancing Conservative efforts. I think that is a weak, defeatist approach.

153 posted on 05/11/2006 7:40:40 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: MizSterious

"The differences between the parties could not be more expressed more dramatically, than by comparing DU to Free Republic."
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Most of the dems I know who voted for Kerry would be appalled at the vicious hostility at DU. Even my extremely liberal mother and uncle would be uncomfortable at DU....though even more so here at FR.

The true differences between the parties needs to be evaluated by how they perform in office. The main selling point of the GOP is that we get better judges, and that is what Jim focused on with his thread this morning. I would also add that the dems are very weak on national security and national sovereignty. Unfortunately, Bush's stance on illegal immigration essentially nullifies the latter as a GOP advantage.

DU is simply the takers and the progeny of the takers, of the brown acid. I think the dem power brokers would be happy if the DU types would just STFU.


154 posted on 05/11/2006 7:42:33 AM PDT by fizziwig (Bushbotulism is a terrible thing to have....please get help..)
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To: fizziwig

No, DU is just what the liberals are when they don't think anyone else is looking. What is stated on DU is usually what lies behind the polite smiles and mild demeanors all the time. I have some liberal relatives--they can be sweet as pie, until you mention the Iraq war, or President Bush, or "gay rights," or any other hot button topic.


155 posted on 05/11/2006 7:45:33 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: MizSterious

Well, my lib relatives certainly become insane moonbats when Iraq and Bush are brought up, but they have never been hostile to me, or used foul language or crudeness in the manner that goes on at DU. And of course even DU doesn't have a lock on crudeness and bad taste.....Southpark, a show loved by many conservatives, has the crudeness gig down pat. Bigger, longer, uncut.....yuck...pathetic.


156 posted on 05/11/2006 8:00:56 AM PDT by fizziwig (Bushbotulism is a terrible thing to have....please get help..)
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To: Jim Robinson
Mr Robinson, I respect you, your site, and your heart felt love for our nation. I respect the hard work you have put into your cause to put conservatives in office. I just don't know where conservatives are to be found anymore. Is it time to face the suspicion that we live under the illusion of a two party system designed to keep the masses calm by giving them the illusion that they have a voice in governmental affairs?

This Independence Day, the U.S. will be asked to sign a U.N. resolution that all gun ownership belongs exclusively to government and the U.N.. The Second Amendment will be interpreted to mean that only government is allowed to own firearms or form militias.

Guess what? That means the Republicans in office will have to sign off on that agreement. If and when they do, will we continue to believe in the illusion of a two party system? If and when that happens should we still believe that to keep voting Republican will save our Republic?

There is a Beast out there, of that there is no doubt in any sane mind. That he operates in both parties has become very sickeningly obvious.

This little illegal immigrant issue, is not a little illegal immigrant issue. These poor slobs are useful tools by the Beast in a full frontal attack on the right of sovereignty of the United States.

If the most sovereign nation on earth can have it's sovereignty erased, the rest of the nations will fall like dominoes. That is why we fight it, and those that promote it, as energetically as the law allows, no matter which party we find it in, and it is patently found front and center in both parties.

I have no answers, just the hope that whipping the Republicans like step children in 2006 will shake them up so badly that they will be fit for office in 2008. Right now they are not fit for anything.

The same nightmare keeps advancing no matter which Party is in office, one is just sneaker about it than the other. When Bush said, "I want to see a Free Trade Zone from the North of Canada to the tip of Cape Horn", alarms went off all over my house, even my car alarm. But I seemed to be the only one alarmed because I seem to be the only one that knows what all is meant by "Free Trade Zone".

When Vicente Fox said, "The United States, Canada, and Mexico will unite under one Trade umbrella with U.S. wages dropping to meet Mexico's rising wages, with the rest of S. America joining later". My car alarm went off again. No way this man would make this brag if he were not certain that it was in the bag.

Continuing to vote Republican is begining to make me feel like that hampster in my son's room. Running real hard in that wheel and getting nowhere. But because I have no answer, other than going to the matresses, which is out of the question, I promise you this.

Out of respect for you, if the Republicans make any positive moves between now and November, no matter how small, I will hold my nose and vote for them again. I told myself the last time that I held my nose and voted for Bush again that that was the last time I would vote, and look at the damage he has managed to inflict as a lame duck. But if you want, we can roll the dice again and vote Republican, but if this time around, it not only doesn't change things, but again makes things worse, what then?

157 posted on 05/11/2006 8:12:05 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie

bttt


158 posted on 05/11/2006 8:13:44 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: JoJo Gunn; Jackson Brown
Who the hell do you think you are? What makes you think you care for the soul of this country any better than I do?

We you ARE the one saying we should turn everything over to the RATS.....If that isn't caring about your country then I don't know what is.
159 posted on 05/11/2006 8:14:29 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Rob Schnieder is a Carrot)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
"I would ask, how in the world does voting for a party that will not stop illegal immigration stop illegal immigrants?"

If conservative Republican judges had been in place in California, than Proposition 187 would not have been overthrown. If you think electing democrats is going to shift the composition of the courts, you are dead wrong.

"My logic in supporting the idea of staying home is that this border issue is so important that everything else pales in significance."

If you REALLY believed that, you would be doing something other than staying home. Instead, you have decided the best action is no action. That is defeatist and by definition, accomplishes nothing. Zero. You are a single issue (non) voter who is willing to lose it all while you decide not to fight for the one issue you care about. That's too bad. The objective in WWII was to defeat Hitler. But the fact that we had to land on the Beaches of Normandy to get there didn't stop this country from moving toward the ultimate objective. There are ups and downs in any fight. Your pet issue will not always be the primary target. But if you decide not to fight, you are already defeated.

160 posted on 05/11/2006 8:15:17 AM PDT by Rokke
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