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To: mathluv; Jim Robinson
We need to stand strong for W, because I believe he is standing strong for us.

That's where I disagree. I think that W is purposely leaving our borders open and the result is going to be the disintegration of our culture.

These free trade treaties are erasing our national borders and in the eyes of people from third world countries we are inviting their lawless migration. The further proof they see of this is the socialist civil benefits we bestow upon them with no questions about US citizenship.

When Laura Bush applauded the Spanish version of God Bless America I almost vomited. As Republican legislators promote low cost loans, reducing the costs of medical care to nil, volunteering advanced education programs, restricting law enforcement that reduces the numbers of these illegal aliens I see this as advancing treason and marxism.

Five years ago I predicted we would be in this position that we are today. The Republican Party has become the step brother of the Democrats. Why hasn't Bush used his powers of veto even once? These legislators have common goals, that's why.

Yes, I scratched my head when Bush nominated moderates and Democrat holdovers to his cabinet and to senior administration positions: Colin Powell, Christi Todd Whitman, Paul O’Neill, George Tenet, etc.

Something fishy is going on. It became more obvious when he didn't veto the McCain-Feingold Incumbent Protection Act. Now it is more difficult than ever to get rid of the long time defenders of socialism.

When Bush planted Norman Minetta in his Cabinet as the Sec. of Transportation I was suspicious. Why would a R President implant a D Sec. of Transportation in his Cabinet unless the goals of both major political parties were lay ahead in the same direction? Did this mean that there was no secrets between the parties? IMO, yes that's what it does mean.

Ridge, Minetta, and Bush all joined hands about not arming airline pilots. Then when we demanded they do it, they composed the sloppiest, most inefficent plan ever to do it.

The way Bush supports the Border Patrol. An Eagle Boy Scout could do a better job of securing the borders than the Commander in Chief has done.

He's got a team in DC that is intent on destroying the American system of government and is placing us under a globalist World Order that rebukes the US Constitution.

I will not be surprised to see the Republican Party divide into the Conservative Republican Party and the Socialist Republican Party, the same way the Democrats now have the Progressive Democrats.

We are in for a rough ride in the coming years ahead as we try to stop this communist compassion for third world migration. My vote and financial backing will go to the Minutemen and the Constitution Party candidates, not members of the two morphed political parties.

123 posted on 05/11/2006 5:02:33 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

"We are in for a rough ride in the coming years ahead as we try to stop this communist compassion for third world migration. My vote and financial backing will go to the Minutemen and the Constitution Party candidates, not members of the two morphed political parties."

- I'm right there with ya.


126 posted on 05/11/2006 5:06:19 AM PDT by Frenetic
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To: B4Ranch
I posted something this morning on what is now a dead thread. This looks like a good place to put it. I'll change just a few words but not the message.

The sting of deceit is much deeper when it comes from those whom you trusted & expected to do better. We though are the overlords of our government and must take responsibility for it. We a free people have the authority to hire and fire our leaders at election time. We have lost site of the fact they work for us. They take that fact for granted.

Right now the anger of many in this nation is running deep. Persons like carpenters are seeing their standard of living being lowered. I posted this the other night. It wasn't so long ago in America even a ditch digger with a pick and shovel could provide a living for his family on one income. That day is gone right now.

There is a division and it is deep between the working people blue collar who depend on their labor skills to live on and ones who live by investments in stocks, are high on corporate ladders, and reap the benefits of cheap foreign labor legal and illegal at the expense of their neighbors.

We have good high skilled Americans in Engineering fields and the Electronics/Computer Technology related fields being displaced either by outsourcing or imported workers. To them this is a real and serious issue also. Corporate bottom dollars have taken over the leadership of our nation. It is true in many areas including Health Care which as best as I can tell is also being purposely destroyed for National Health Care to be overseen by large corporate interest.

There are conspiracy and there are conspiracy theories. When it's your neighbor being affected it is conspiracy theory and he's over reacting. When it's you however being on the losing end you see the conspiracy more clearly. Much of this is conspiracy. It is a deliberate effort being made by globalist to put this nation into at the least a hemispheric government and economy and at the most One World Government. Those of us who are Christians were warned this was to happen.

I don't believe there has been a deeper distrust in our nations leadership in general in nearly 150 years going back to the pre-Civil War. Even the Great Depression people relied on God, Self, & the moral character of their neighbor and those whom we elected to do what was right for the good of the nation.

Individuals who either by adversity or by sheer anger and outrage have forged much of the good that came in the form of the founding of our nation. They were not a majority as many would have us believe. Many in this nation were perfectly content to live under tyranny of the crown because of their secure personal positions with the crown or out and out fear of it. Thankfully however enough were not that content.

The signers of the Documents gave their word Their Sacred Honor to stand against the tyranny of the day. Most lost all they had. Some of them as well who didn't sign lost personal fortunes and are some of the biggest traditional investment names we know today. None were repaid.

I don't think anyone is asking anyone in here to pick up arms and take over a nation. There simply is no need for it especially at this point in time. The most effective weapon we have besides our weapons we have in our home is our voice and our vote. The framers gave us that to carry on their name and that Sacred Honor.

It's disheartening to see fear of political parties being used by career politicians to literally divide our nation and scare voters into being enablers to their wrongs simply because their wrongs are lesser wrongs than the other mans So They Say.

There is nothing that gets this old Tennessee Hillbilly's back up quicker than to be threatened by fear or intimidation by someone to let them walk all over me or mine. I don't care if it's a political party or a Labor Union doing it as the original Minutemen of this nation stated "Don't Tread On Me".

One poster whom I thought was wise enough to know better has called the Minutemen a joke. Calling them such calls the ones who founded this nation such as well. Their dedication to freedom and this nation is not a joke.

Yes we are a nation of many with room for plenty. Tell me posters does your own home no matter how large it is not have a limit to the number of persons who can live in it? Is their not a limit to the number of mouths you can feed and persons you can provide for? What do you do when uninvited guest or even invited ones start eating you out of house and home and run up bills so extreme that your children will be paying the debt? What do you do?

We are forgetting something these are not an oppressed people except for their complete lack of will to stand against the corruption and tyranny of their own homeland. They do live in a nation free enough to vote their own future. As such we owe them nothing especially not at the expense of our children and grandchildren future. That is not ours to give away! It is not morally right to enslave them by doing this to our nation. If anyone thinks they are coming here to be good voting conservatives I have Arizona Swamp land to sell. They are Socialist leaving a Socialist nation to import it here and take over. They plainly say as much & I believe them.

To the Minutemen I say Thank You. To ones like Travis McGee who tried to sound the alarm to some very real not so civil possibilities that may be coming if this goes unresolved I say Thank You. To those who wish to enable tyrants from both parties to continue us on this present destructive course due to your greedy personal gains on the stock market or for selfish political reasons & ambition to you I say you have my utmost contempt. IOW party officals or officers saying all is well etc.

This nation has a congress problem much bigger than any other branch of our government. It must be brought back to Constitutional Order. That means sacrifice. It means judging individual candidates based on their merit and what they say and do rather than their party membership as being fit for the HONOR to serve in our congress. Yes that means supporting Conservative Independents as well.

We have an elective system to bring change. I want to remind people that the GOP was born of division of a previous political party. It took more or less than 7 years to have a sitting POTUS in office. That was in an age of limited media and communication so don't hand me the it takes decades to do it nonsense. It was born of Dems, Whigs, and several Third Parties and it is called the GOP. It can be replaced in the manner in which it came to be.

No one holding public office nor any party is entitled to their position because of their party status it must like trust be earned. Actually it is a trust and our leaders have betrayed it. Much trust in todays political parties has been betrayed and so far only a hand full are willing within them to stand up and say what is right. Those unfortunately usually face the ridicule of both party and some who are so blind they can't see beyond a very warped political party loyalty. It's our nation to keep or loose and time is growing short on that matter.

I likely have a lesser formal education than many in here. My knowledge of government came from high school in a community that Political Correctness had not yet destroyed. I understand how it is supposed to work and I understand how it is with prejudice by many of our elected being destroyed. I don't fear DEMs and I don't fear Republicans. They put their pants on and breath GOD's air the same as me. I however loathe the tyrants from both of the parties who have led our nation to this point. I will not join ones wishing to help them continue it either. To those you will NEVER receive my vote again. I do not vote on fear or intimidation so don't go there. I refuse with all my being to vote for more of the same. When enough persons get angry enough to do no less change will come and a government restored.

130 posted on 05/11/2006 5:43:18 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: B4Ranch

Thank you for your comments. I agree.


145 posted on 05/11/2006 6:22:30 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: B4Ranch

But, with all due respect (and admitting to my own Bush-bot-ism), I don't see how anyone gains anything by splitting the party and/or voting for a 'Rat. If the President and the First Lady do not please you, think for a moment about the alternative: a president and Mrs. Kerry is our country's worst nightmare come true.

That was the "other choice" we had last election. Next election, we might be choosing between a Republican and (horror of horrors) (crossing self) Hillary Clinton. Or, it is being rumored that Kerry might try again. Certainly he has the money (thanks to the missus).

I think we need to keep pointing out how damaging the illegals are to our country--but keep in mind, as we do so, that the 'Rats offer us only worse, not better, "solutions."


148 posted on 05/11/2006 7:13:16 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: B4Ranch
"That's where I disagree. I think that W is purposely leaving our borders open and the result is going to be the disintegration of our culture.

These free trade treaties are erasing our national borders and in the eyes of people from third world countries we are inviting their lawless migration. The further proof they see of this is the socialist civil benefits we bestow upon them with no questions about US citizenship.

It is always easier to deny such unpleasant truths rather than recognize we no longer have a federal government loyal to the U.S. Constitution and the oath of office.

450 posted on 05/12/2006 2:25:07 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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