Posted on 05/12/2006 5:47:27 PM PDT by ohioWfan
I’m going to try something entirely new to Free Republic………..start a thread restricted to practical, positive. pro-active things that this huge forum filled with good people who love this country can actually DO about helping to solve the illegal immigration problem, and how we can ‘encourage’ our leaders at all levels to get their acts together.
This is not a thread for venting or attacking (Heaven knows, that‘s been done plenty around here!). Let’s keep it entirely positive……..no attacks on the President and ‘Bushbots’ or the GOP………or on each other, from EITHER side. No threats to ’kick the GOP bums out’ …….we all know that the risk of having Dems in power is too great for that irresponsible threat. NO name-calling from EITHER side……..’Jorge‘ and ‘El Presidente‘ both qualify as disrespectful name-calling. (Perhaps we can all just ignore anyone who tries to turn this into a hostile thread, and punch the abuse button, but NOT engage in battle with him/her). Disagree, but be respectful about it.
What we really need are practical things we can do……with links to key Senate and Congressional offices, the White House, as well as STATE and LOCAL government offices, examples of THOUGHTFUL and POSITIVE letters to our leaders that will actually be read, and responded to. Phone numbers, and ideas for THOUGHTFUL and POSITIVE phone calls to leaders. What we also need are specific PRAYER requests for you, so that those of us who believe that our God is the God of the impossible can be on our knees in prayer for the details of this immense problem. We need fervent prayer for the President and Congress, as well as our State and Local authorities. And we need Freeper creativity!
We are LEGION, and together, I believe we can make a difference in moving this engine down the track more rapidly.
There are people who are very angry with the President and the Republicans in Congress, and people who still respect and admire the President greatly, and are angry with the Republicans in Congress……..and even some who are NOT angry with the Republicans in Congress (OK……..maybe not..... :)………..but we ALL want to end this invasion, and help our brothers and sisters in the Southwest to have their safe and normal lives return, and prevent the invasion from moving further.
Those of us outside the region may not understand what things are like, but we want to, so if those of you in the affected states could give us more details about how bad this is, without belittling us because we don’t live there, it would be much appreciated. We know it‘s bad, and we care about it, even though we cannot fully appreciate it from where we sit.
There is a great work force of pro-Bush people out in freeper lurker land who have been shoved out of the discussion by bashers. There are lots of us who want to know what’s going on, but wouldn’t go on a standard immigration thread if our lives depended on it, because the disdain for us there is palpable. We may agree with the idea of a guest worker program, or we may not, but we don‘t want to be labeled just because our ideas are different.
So…… LET US HELP YOU, PLEASE! We are activists, and we are willing to work.
Tell us what we can do. Let’s band together on this important issue to do whatever we can do to put pressure on Congress, the White House, state and local governments………polite, respectful pressure……….as well as encouraging them when they do make good decisions, and see what happens.
What do you think? Can we be pro-active and actually get something done? Can we discuss this without rancor, but with the common goal in mind to rescue our beloved country from invasion?
If you think so, please ping those who will, without personal attacks, tell us their stories, and let us get involved in getting something done. This thread is not to place blame, but to come up with solutions.
This is America………..and we are Freepers! Let’s ROLL!
I'm not sure what you mean. Is it the word "invasion" that bothers you? Other than that, do you disagree with the proposition?
Think about this, what do you think a house will cost if labor doubles or triples the cost?
THANK you, SoCal!
And support the President for making a move in the right direction.
Me too. Isn't it silly to pump out the water from your basement without first shutting off the broken pipe?
As long as both the employers and the employees benefit from this situation it will continue to happen. The migrants benefit as they are making 10x as much as they would in mexico and employers benefit from paying 1/3 the pay they have to pay American workers.
Either penalties on the employer side or increased wages and benefits on the Mexican side of the border are required to alter this equation. Enforcement will certainly have an effect in the short term, but if demand for this type work rises as a result of the enforcement you will most likely be right back in the same position we are in now (similar in a sense to drug enforcement).
I enjoy people picking my ideas apart. So have at it. Doesn't this make sense from a purely economic standpoint?
Thanks for posting this thread ohioWfan.
I think what ever the Prez states with his message Monday evening, we need to back him even if not in total agreement.
NYC is declared a safe zone for illegals.
Denver is declared a safe zone for illegals.
My guess is that there are dozens of cities with the same pathetic mindset.
The problem is monumental and far more complex that we would like to believe.
It is mostly small construction companies in my state who are hiring illegals. They're painting, landscaping, etc.
In states with liberal welfare benefits it is impossible to get people to do manual labor.
I don't think anyone else believes that my comments are anything less than civil.
Just about every country issues a birth certificate for a baby born there. I don't see how we can avoid issuing a birth certificate.
I included 'state and local' governments, because the problem is much deeper than just a federal one.
The President can not announce the starting of a fence on Monday..the proposed building of a fence is still just a bill.
An announcement from President Bush that troops are needed at the boarder due to the Bill coming up and the possibility of a stampede of aliens trying to get in at the last minute is a very good thing.
It will calm people's fears. That's what a good President does.
Thanks for clearing that up Dane.
I'm on the side of Law and Order and you're on the side of Anything To Make A Buck.
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You're on the edge tru....... state your positive suggestions for what we can do, please.
That alone would probably work but be prepared to lose their oil. Everything south of the border is reverting to communism and Mexico would fall with it.
Good post! Ending the anchor baby incentive would certainly be a deterrent. There's certainly nothing in your post I wouldn't agree with 100%!
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