Posted on 05/12/2006 5:47:27 PM PDT by ohioWfan
Im going to try something entirely new to Free Republic ..start a thread restricted to practical, positive. pro-active things that this huge forum filled with good people who love this country can actually DO about helping to solve the illegal immigration problem, and how we can encourage our leaders at all levels to get their acts together.
This is not a thread for venting or attacking (Heaven knows, thats been done plenty around here!). Lets keep it entirely positive ..no attacks on the President and Bushbots or the GOP or on each other, from EITHER side. No threats to kick the GOP bums out .we all know that the risk of having Dems in power is too great for that irresponsible threat. NO name-calling from EITHER side ..Jorge and El Presidente both qualify as disrespectful name-calling. (Perhaps we can all just ignore anyone who tries to turn this into a hostile thread, and punch the abuse button, but NOT engage in battle with him/her). Disagree, but be respectful about it.
What we really need are practical things we can do with links to key Senate and Congressional offices, the White House, as well as STATE and LOCAL government offices, examples of THOUGHTFUL and POSITIVE letters to our leaders that will actually be read, and responded to. Phone numbers, and ideas for THOUGHTFUL and POSITIVE phone calls to leaders. What we also need are specific PRAYER requests for you, so that those of us who believe that our God is the God of the impossible can be on our knees in prayer for the details of this immense problem. We need fervent prayer for the President and Congress, as well as our State and Local authorities. And we need Freeper creativity!
We are LEGION, and together, I believe we can make a difference in moving this engine down the track more rapidly.
There are people who are very angry with the President and the Republicans in Congress, and people who still respect and admire the President greatly, and are angry with the Republicans in Congress ..and even some who are NOT angry with the Republicans in Congress (OK ..maybe not..... :) ..but we ALL want to end this invasion, and help our brothers and sisters in the Southwest to have their safe and normal lives return, and prevent the invasion from moving further.
Those of us outside the region may not understand what things are like, but we want to, so if those of you in the affected states could give us more details about how bad this is, without belittling us because we dont live there, it would be much appreciated. We know its bad, and we care about it, even though we cannot fully appreciate it from where we sit.
There is a great work force of pro-Bush people out in freeper lurker land who have been shoved out of the discussion by bashers. There are lots of us who want to know whats going on, but wouldnt go on a standard immigration thread if our lives depended on it, because the disdain for us there is palpable. We may agree with the idea of a guest worker program, or we may not, but we dont want to be labeled just because our ideas are different.
So LET US HELP YOU, PLEASE! We are activists, and we are willing to work.
Tell us what we can do. Lets band together on this important issue to do whatever we can do to put pressure on Congress, the White House, state and local governments polite, respectful pressure .as well as encouraging them when they do make good decisions, and see what happens.
What do you think? Can we be pro-active and actually get something done? Can we discuss this without rancor, but with the common goal in mind to rescue our beloved country from invasion?
If you think so, please ping those who will, without personal attacks, tell us their stories, and let us get involved in getting something done. This thread is not to place blame, but to come up with solutions.
This is America
..and we are Freepers! Lets ROLL!
Excellent thread and I thank you fir it, my dear FRiend.
I'll be back to join the civil discussion as soon as my 'univited, but welcomed' company leave.
Great minds think alike..eh?
I'm praying for every word the President says Monday night.
I pray with you.
Thanks for the positive topic and theme.
Its hard to be a Bush supporter and post these days.
How about writing the President and suggesting that his approach to immigration is outdated due to the rapidly increasing invasion?
Thank you very much for this thread. I have some responsibilities this afternoon...but I WILL be back to put in my two cents.
I can not wait to see where we really stand. My suspicion is that we have more in common than we think when we are yelling at each other.
In the meantime, I will pray for constructive ideas.
;-)
Down here in San Diego, the Mexican radio stations advise the illegals that if they can't afford to pay for treatment for some non emergency like the flu then simply call 9-11. An ambulence is dispatched and they transport to the nearest hospital. Once called for service, the paramedics HAVE to treat. None of these services is paid for their service. Our hospitals are closing because of treating for "emergencies" only. The amublence services either go under and/or are not available for real emergencies for our own citizens.
Have you written your Congressmen and Senators with those steps?
I'll bite.
For starters, end the anchor baby doctrine. Only babies born to legal residents of this country automatically become citizens.
IF some kind of amnesty is offered (and I fiercely oppose this but I'm being pragmatic), require any asylum seeker to pass the requirements of legal immigration in terms of health, legal problems, and other matters with the proviso that those who don't qualify under our laws go back home.
Then ensure that all law enforcement officers from federal to shopping mall make it their business to establish legal status of troublemakers, and doctors, teachers and others wiht the same requirements.
Then pass a law that any person caught here illegally automatically and permanently forfeits the right to ever obtain legal residency, let alone citizenship, in this country.
If we want to end illegal immigration, we have to stop rewarding lawbreakers with citizenship, benefits, schooling, pensions and "catch and release" practices. And all citizens must be on board to enforce the laws or face their own consequences in terms of penalties for aiding and abetting.
#2 problem is visa over stayers. I detest those schemers. They are 40% of our illegal aliens
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How can that be solved? There HAS to be a way!
Hah..the dems must know that without voter fraud no dem would probably EVER get elected outside of San FranSissy and Mass.
From an earlier post...
Here is a set of policies that will change this problem:
1. Seal the borders with fences & manpower as necessary
2. Seal the ports and airports against illegal entry
3. Hold all "detained" illegals until deported
4. Re incarcerate all felony convicted illegals into Federal Prisons to be deported at the end of sentence
5. Establish the means to prevent the transfer of funds not associated with international trade out of the country without approval
6. Establish the means to prevent illegals from voting
7. Punish those who employ illegals with large fines/prison
8. No more anchor babies
Problem will go away
One thing that could be done: put a cap on the amount of
money any individual could send to Mexico in a given year,
say $300. This would help our economy and would force Mexico
to think about theirs.
Is there any way the medical services, freebee healthcare at the expense of the rest of us can be ended?
Is there something practical WE can do, or say?
(Don't know...........just asking).
My husband is in hospital administration. I know how serious a problem this is.
Yeah those "evil" people who take the financial risks to put food on America's table or shelter over American's heads, they are just dispicable.
I'm with Miss Marple.
How do we accelerate the process?
Living in WA. State, I can tell you how it feels to have a fraudulently elected Governor!!
Once the prevailaing wage demand is issued, and strikes ensue, the demand for work will diminish significantly due to cost. Then the millions of people here legally but unemployed will demand medicare, medicaid, unemployment insurance, etc. Atually, the leftist pols will demand it for them. It is very unlikely that the left will allow deportation of green card holders (or legalized immigrants) due to unemployment. They seek to raise taxes and encourage hand outs as an investment on votes once the illegal becomes a citizen and can vote.
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