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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Miss Marple; Pukin Dog

I have made the same mistake, Miss Marple. And "Dog" is so right!

I will stop being so quiet as well, and begin "typing back" to those who are so foolish as to give unwitting support to the other side!


81 posted on 05/17/2006 8:19:49 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: Pukin Dog

Good Read.


82 posted on 05/17/2006 8:19:49 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent Rant!

Like the argument I've made to those 3rd party voters I encounter, the answer is not to jump ship, but to tidy up the ship you are on. RINOs can be taken out in primaries, and pay attention to the politics of you local area. That's where it all starts. Strive to get good conservative minded people in your city council, state senate/house, ect. Run yourself if you want. But be active in spreading conservative values.


83 posted on 05/17/2006 8:20:20 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Republican Red
It has gotten to the point that I come on Free Republic less and less.

That's why the trolls have been flourishing... I'm guilty of that too but I intend to rectify it.

84 posted on 05/17/2006 8:20:31 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Admin Moderator
Might I ask a favor?

In ranting before my coffee was ready, I mistakenly attributed Lincoln Chaffee to Massachusetts instead of Rhode Island. Can you fix it for me, so I don't come of as a TOTAL loser?
85 posted on 05/17/2006 8:21:21 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: CougarGA7
Run yourself if you want.

Go Coug! Can I be your spokesman?

86 posted on 05/17/2006 8:21:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Rebelbase; Pukin Dog
You take a wild guess at how many immigrants will arrive in this country in the next 25 years and accept it as a fact. Then you criticize someone for not believing it. Then you wonder why rhetoric like what you are pushing is not listened to. Think about it for a minute. Do you have any idea what the number 200,000,000 represents? That is double the current population of all of Mexico. Yet you seem to honestly believe 200,000,000 immigrants will arrive here in 25 years. Wow.

Pukin, not bad for a Navy guy. Sign me up.

87 posted on 05/17/2006 8:21:34 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent sentiments, Pukin.
I echo them. I wish I could have voted for President Bush once, let alone twice (I am Canadian and live in Calgary). I think he has been doing a tremendous job, and I especially enjoy how he makes liberal heads explode.
The civilized world needs him, the United States of America - and it needs FreeRepublic, too! Three great weapons in our battle of civilizations.
Keep up the good work. And thanks, JimRob, too!


Cheers
Jim


88 posted on 05/17/2006 8:21:46 AM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound.)
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To: Republican Red

Funny pictures. Got me laughing out loud.


89 posted on 05/17/2006 8:22:58 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Pukin Dog

I reserve the right to criticize the president and any other Republicans when I believe they stray from conservative principles. I don't think that makes me a Bushbasher or disloyal. I reserve the right to support the president when I think he's right. That doesn't make me a Bushbot or a lockstepper. Unfortunately, there are many on this forum who will tolerate no criticism of the president, and then there are those who will tolerate no support of the president. Effem both.


90 posted on 05/17/2006 8:23:01 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Neither a Bushbot nor a Bushbasher.)
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To: Rokke; Pukin Dog

Obviously some refuse to get it. We all need to stick togehter, Pukin, thanks for this thread.


91 posted on 05/17/2006 8:23:39 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you! Excellent thread, thanks for reminding all of us, we all need a boot in the butt every so often.

I can say and very clearly to all within earshot of this thread whether they be MSM, or the DU or whoever.

Just cause we argue amongst ourselves do not think there is a rift in the party because nothing could be further from the truth.

Because we speak in anger don't even think of causing a split....Ain't gonna happen!!

The illegals threaten politicians to get their way well we can no longer do the same or we will be like the illegals. ..speak in haste regret in leisure. And I have to admit to speaking out way to many times in anger.

The illegal alien ruining this country is a strong emotional issue with a lot of us and I will be the first to admit that. And at times if we feel betrayed we must increase the faxes to our politicians. Hopefully we will make a difference.


92 posted on 05/17/2006 8:23:54 AM PDT by stopem (Sorry illegals the jobs are drying up you will be loitering a long time!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks Pukin. Happy FReeperversary to you!


93 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:02 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Pukin Dog
...enjoy the meat of Tax cuts, Conservative Justices...

For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone could not appreciate these things.

94 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:12 AM PDT by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: digger48; Miss Marple

I was just going to ask that. I've been avoiding any threads about the President...if I want to read hate, I can visit the DUmp.


95 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Pukin Dog

Well said Pukin, we can't allow the MSM to turn us against ourselves and convince us to stay home.


96 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:52 AM PDT by Johnny_T (http://johnnytriangles.blogspot.com)
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To: gymbeau
Hey Canadian buddy!

Congrats to your country for beginning its move back to the right!
97 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:53 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: pissant
Quote: "It's that horse-barn thing. Too late."

Its not so much the expression of frustration with the President, but how it is expressed that gives away the motives of many on this site (and I am not including you), namely, to infiltrate and demoralize. The President is not beyond criticism, but to treat him like the enemy is going a bit far. He has not had a good second term so far, but does that make him the enemy?

Similarly, this "horse-barn" attitude expressed by many is something that I find a bit suspicious. It says to me that despite what Bush does from here on in, he will not be given a chance. So, in other words, if Bush were to do exactly what the bashers on this site want going forward, it would make no difference because he didn't do what they want from day 1. The Miers nomination is a prime example. Yep, he screwed up with that one, stuck to his guns too long, but in the end he listened to his base and recovered nicely. Yet, many point to the Miers nomination as some kind of unforgivable sin to bash Bush with.

That betrays other motives. It isn't where you start, it is where you finish. Yep, Bush hasn't vetoed one fat spending bill yet. But, if he starts now, I am not going to write it off as "too little to late." Instead, I am going to treat it as, "better late than never." I think that most who truly support the agenda they allege to support would adopt the latter outlook.
98 posted on 05/17/2006 8:26:14 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Pukin Dog

BTTT


99 posted on 05/17/2006 8:26:34 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You know I'm unelectable. It's a dress code thing.

How bout you?


100 posted on 05/17/2006 8:26:45 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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