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Senate Vote Gives Immigration Bill Steam
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/06 | Suzanne Gamboa - ap

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:47:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Wednesday to exclude illegal immigrants convicted of a felony or three misdemeanors from a chance at remaining in the United States under what critics say is an amnesty program.

The unanimous vote on an amendment that before Easter had been considered a "poison pill" provided added momentum for broad immigration bill that would give legal status to millions of illegal immigrants and put many of them on a path toward citizenship.

The amendment by two of the bill's leading opponents, Republican Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona and John Cornyn of Texas, was softened Tuesday in negotiations with the legislation's supporters. The sponsors agreed to include exceptions for hardship cases and those who didn't know a deportation order had been issued for them, winning the additional support.

"We want to keep those who could harm us, the criminal element, out," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., one of the authors of the bill. "Those who could benefit us ought to remain."

Critics of the legislation aren't giving up, however, and planned to keep trying to reshape the bill.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (news, bio, voting record), R-Ala., offered an amendment Wednesday that would erect more fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexican border, an idea similar to one in an enforcement-only bill passed by the House in December.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said Wednesday that lawmakers increasingly realize the need for a comprehensive plan that goes beyond trying to stop people at the border.

"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; bill; borderfence; gives; senatevote; southernborder; steam
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1 posted on 05/17/2006 9:47:47 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The sponsors agreed to include exceptions for hardship cases and those who didn't know a deportation order had been issued for them, winning the additional support.

In other words, the amendment is meaningless.

2 posted on 05/17/2006 9:48:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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3 posted on 05/17/2006 9:49:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient"

Not if you add guard dogs at the base of the wall!


4 posted on 05/17/2006 9:50:25 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: mewzilla
Yep. Its all a fake-out. The Senate could care less what the American people want. At the end of the day, the law is not going to be enforced and criminal aliens will be allowed to stay here. So who the heck is Senator Ted Kennedy trying to kid?

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

5 posted on 05/17/2006 9:50:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good God! DC numbskulls at work. Sheesh!


6 posted on 05/17/2006 9:51:09 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00125

Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Kyl Amdt. No. 4027 )
Vote Number: 125 Vote Date: May 17, 2006, 10:39 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 4027 to S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )
Statement of Purpose: To make certain aliens ineligible for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status or Deferred Mandatory Departure status.
Vote Counts: YEAs 99
NAYs 0
Not Voting 1


7 posted on 05/17/2006 9:51:16 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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""If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show.""

Well, we gotta start somewhere Fristy. Let's start with shutting down the Department of Education and taking those funds to build the fence. Sacrifices need to be made, so let's start with the Federal Government.

8 posted on 05/17/2006 9:51:28 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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It's all about process yaknow, not about content.. or impact.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 9:52:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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In other words, the amendment is meaningless.

Our "leaders" never tire of insulting our intelligence.

10 posted on 05/17/2006 9:53:15 AM PDT by RodgerD
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11 posted on 05/17/2006 9:55:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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"We want to keep those who could harm us, the criminal element, out," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy

With that, we should be bouncing his sorry arse out of the US........

12 posted on 05/17/2006 9:55:48 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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"Senate Vote Gives Immigration Bill Steam"

I think it is just a lot of flatulance.

13 posted on 05/17/2006 9:56:38 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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I don't know what to do...I know 80% of Americans want the border secured...but the politicians are not listening...there are going to be another 10 million within the next year....they are running over...its going to destroy the country...I can't figure out why they want to destroy the country...I am pissed
14 posted on 05/17/2006 9:56:42 AM PDT by Youngman442002
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To: NormsRevenge
while the Senate fiddles..


15 posted on 05/17/2006 9:56:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."


Ok Bill. Maybe your right. Now, why don't you go ahead and build one just to humor us.

We keep hearing how this "just won't work", but they have never really tried it. Of course, aside from a fence or wall, they would have to step up the patrols of such a fence. When that is accomplished, I would gurantee Frist that illegals coming into this country would diminish by large margins.

For a lot of folks who cross the border, it is the ease of the task that draws them to do it. Obstacles do have a way of deterring folks. Using an old phrase, it "keeps honest people, honest"

Our current situation is analogous to placing a help wanted sign on the whole United States.


16 posted on 05/17/2006 9:57:15 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient. People will go up over it, around it, in order to get a job in this country," Frist said on CBS' "The Early Show."

Well Billy Boy, ever heard of hitting the Employers and turning off the Job Faucet? HUH??

Idiot


17 posted on 05/17/2006 9:58:10 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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Just great. President Bush's speech yesterday. Next, the Senate passes the Amnesty for Illegals Bill under the phony label of 'Immigration Reform.' Today Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos as elections near. What if the chaos in Mexico drives millions more over the border? Huh? Duh? Did anyone in the Senate consider the unstable and corrupt government in Mexico? Did a single Senator book a trip to Mexico City to learn about government corruption first hand? Nada por nada. Mexico's capitol is the kidnapping capitol of the world. Drug dealers cut off heads of police and display the heads in public. Organized crime runs the city. Doesn't anybody in D.C. study ithe ssues anymore? Or do they just go straight ahead with their plans to ruin the U.S. regardless?
18 posted on 05/17/2006 9:58:35 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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"If you just try to build a wall 30 feet high and 2,000 miles long, it will be insufficient.

But it sure would be a good start!

19 posted on 05/17/2006 9:58:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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"We want to keep those who could harm us, the criminal element, out," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., one of the authors of the bill. "Those who could benefit us ought to remain."

None of this requires granting citizenship to those who entered the country illegally, yet that's what this bill seems to insist on. Legalization of some kind is almost inevitable. Granting citizenship is not. How long under this bill would it take to become a citizen anyway? It's ridiculous to insist on a 'path to citizenship'.

20 posted on 05/17/2006 9:59:46 AM PDT by nosofar
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