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Krauthammer: Good Intentions Not Enough To Secure Border
Washington Post Writers Group ^ | May 19, 2006 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 05/18/2006 9:29:03 PM PDT by RWR8189

WASHINGTON -- I do not doubt the president's sincerity in wanting to humanize and regularize the lives of America's 11 million illegal aliens.

But good intentions are not enough. For decades, the well-traveled road from the Mexican border to the barrios of Los Angeles has been paved with such intentions. They begat the misguided immigration policy that created the crisis that necessitated the speech that purports to offer, finally, the ``comprehensive'' solution.

Hardly. The critical element -- border enforcement -- is farcical.

President Bush promises to increase the number of border agents. That was promised in the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty legislation in 1986. The result was 11 million new illegals.

The president himself boasted about having already increased the number of border guards by one-third under his administration. Yet he acknowledges in the same speech that we do not have the border under control -- "full control,'' as he comically put it. The president's new solution? Increase the number of border guards again, by half this time.

Everyone knows that anything short of enough border guards to do Hands Across America from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean won't do a thing to eliminate illegal immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordercontrol; borders; borderwar; bush43; charleskrauthammer; foxnews; krauthammer; southernborder
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To: RWR8189
Do liberals really believe in a de facto policy that depresses the wages of the poorest and most desperate Americans, African-Americans most prominently among them?

Liberals oppose serious reform of an educational system that traps millions in illiteracy, poverty, and hopelessness. Liberals defend a structrually bankrupt Social Security System that takes 10% of a person's lifetime earnings and in return pays a welfare stipend. Why should liberal policy on immigration be any different?

Liberals favor the mass immigration of poor people because they think a few years down the road these people will become democrat voters. That's the sum total of the liberal calculation. They are in a panic because they have lost their permanent lock on Congress. They now want to import a new American population that they think they can control.

41 posted on 05/19/2006 3:13:42 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Nova; de Buillion

Ahem. Personal attacks are not allowed on FR.

APf


42 posted on 05/19/2006 4:23:10 AM PDT by APFel (Loose ships sink lips.)
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To: Soul Seeker

"The way I read this Charles thinks a Lie was told in that speech. I said the same and it wasn't responded to well."

Many of us here believe Bush's immigration speech was BS, just as many Bush supporters here believe he would never lie to them!

Get used to it, stand your ground, & try to ignore the ignorant.

"They just don't have the sense to realize it."

With the VAST majority of Americans polled wanting the borders secured & the illegals stopped, clearly most people of any "stripe" DO have the sense to realize it.

The various "leaders" of the groups you mentioned will steer their people in the direction that nets them - the "leaders" - the most power & money. Whether or not it is good for the US or their constituents is immaterial to them.

There is money to be made in chaos.


43 posted on 05/19/2006 4:28:26 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: RWR8189

Why does this wall-building mania remind me of the Maginot Line?

Probably because it will be just about as effective given the true open-borders sentiments of the president and so many other permanent underclass advocates.


44 posted on 05/19/2006 4:34:32 AM PDT by dropzone
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To: CitizenUSA
"By what logic? "

Exactly! "By what logic" are the politicians allowing the dam liberals to run the show and make all the decisions?

Is it Christian to reward the lawbreaker? I don't think so. I was never taught that it's perfectly okay to break man's laws and than be rewarded for it.

45 posted on 05/19/2006 4:40:45 AM PDT by stopem (Sorry illegals the jobs are drying up you will be loitering a long time!)
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To: sphinx
Liberals oppose serious reform of an educational system that traps millions in illiteracy, poverty, and hopelessness. Liberals defend a structrually bankrupt Social Security System that takes 10% of a person's lifetime earnings and in return pays a welfare stipend. Why should liberal policy on immigration be any different?

Well put, but I think it's closer to 15% of a person's lifetime earnings if you count the "employer contribution" the worker never sees in his paycheck.

46 posted on 05/19/2006 5:00:22 AM PDT by doc11355
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To: CitizenUSA

Like other forms of political correctness Krauthammer seems to be illogically saying that the more important problem is how to deal compassionately with illegal aliens already here, instead of fixing the source of the problem.

We should just secure our borders, and then take the time needed to rework our immigration policy, including how best to deal with illegals. Given the complexities and many options available this country needs the time. We let it rest for twenty years; it can wait a little longer.


47 posted on 05/19/2006 5:02:34 AM PDT by olezip
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

I want as much security on both borders as we have around the White House. I live here too.

My wife's family entered legally and went through all the necessary steps to become citizens. They learned English instead of asking everyone to learn their language.

They brought some relatives over, legally. The relatives became citizens through the legal process. They learned English too.

I have been stopped many times in Yuma on I-8 by the Bored (correct spelling) Patrol. I am sure zillions are leaving Yuma where the checkpoints are. Somehow they get past the checkpoint and reach Phoenix.


48 posted on 05/19/2006 5:26:00 AM PDT by sine_nomine (No more RINO presidents. We need another Reagan.)
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To: RWR8189
Krauthammer is at best a moderate conservative. However, he is entirely correct in what he wrote in this article. Hopefully, since he is not a "fire-eater" on the order of Michelle Malkin or Michael Savage, the White House will pay attention to him and do the right thing.
49 posted on 05/19/2006 5:36:37 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: dropzone
The Maginot Line was ineffective because it was INCOMPLETE, leaving open the Ardennes Forest (supposedly impassable) & the France/Belgium border (too unfriendly to the Belgians). These are the 2 breeches in the line that the Germans used to assault France in 1940. I can't recall any instance where the Germans successfully assaulted the Maginot Line from the front.

I agree Bush & co. are for open borders, despite the wishes of most US citizens, including me. But a wall is NOT open borders, it is closed borders. A wall is not easily circumvented by illegals & our multicultural pols, as are our wide open borders now.

And frankly, given the level of resistance to the wall by the likes of the Mexican government, loonie lefties, Ted Kennedy, etc., CLEARLY a wall is EXACTLY what this country needs, on both borders.

I find it curious that these same people rigorously support the forced repatriation of Cubans caught trying to enter this country, knowing that the Cubans will be punished severely for attempting to flee. Why was Elian Gonzales different from the other 12 million illegals?

I'd like to see a wall built, a massive increase in the border patrol, & congressional hearings on why we are not enforcing our CURRENT laws - deporting illegals & punishing employers who hire them.

The Senate bill & Bush's ideas are an attempt to exchange the currently weak immigration laws for even weaker ones. 370 miles of new fence & 6000 NG troops are a joke.
50 posted on 05/19/2006 5:40:11 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: RWR8189

Bush knows all this! He's not some sort of moron. He's just trying to sugar coat something that isn't going to go down at all, much less easily. There's clearly some sort of agenda though.

This entire thing is an abomination!


51 posted on 05/19/2006 5:42:33 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: KDD

It's not possible doncha know! LOL...


52 posted on 05/19/2006 5:43:29 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Mister Da

As the border wall - as proposed - will be imcomplete and just as the Maginot Line, easily circumvented.


53 posted on 05/19/2006 7:02:41 AM PDT by dropzone
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To: dropzone

and the French put too much faith in a wall. We should learn something from that. A wall is only the first, of many, lines of defense - not the only defense.

we need to prosecute those who hire illegals.


54 posted on 05/19/2006 7:07:52 AM PDT by dropzone
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To: dropzone
and the French put too much faith in a wall.

Actually, their faith in Maginot wasn't misplaced. It was their failure to see how easily Germany could skirt the Line by taking out Belgium so they could bypass the Maginot.

Wikipedia
The fortifications did not extend through the Ardennes Forest (which was believed to be "impénétrable" and "impassable") or along the border with Belgium because the countries had signed an alliance in 1920, by which the French army would operate in Belgium if the German forces invaded. When Belgium abrogated the treaty in 1936 and declared neutrality, the Maginot Line was quickly extended along the Franco-Belgian border, but not to the standard of the rest of the Line. And as the water table in this region was high, there was the danger of underground passages getting flooded, which the designers of the line knew would be difficult and expensive to overcome.
History is our friend. Given that the Maginot has been discussed in the context of our own border fence, I thought it was worth clearing up the facts about Maginot.

BTW, when the Germans held Maginot to resist the Allies, they skirted it too.
55 posted on 05/19/2006 7:17:05 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Plutarch; RWR8189; Torie
Charles gives it away all too often that he is an out of touch Beltway elitist who has sneering contempt for conservatives. We need merely recall his infamous Mel Gibson Passion column for proof.

Don't forget his advocacy for gun confiscation, in order that we might one day be a "truly civilized society".

I like Krauthammer, I respect and admire his intellect and I value his penetrating analyses. That said, I never for an instant forget who and what he is, an Establishment elitist with no particular allegiance to the Constitution or the foundational precepts of our Republic.

56 posted on 05/19/2006 8:06:34 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: APFel
Good morning.
"Krauthammer should go back to the DU and join Moveon."

I think you are a little confused as to what Krauthammer is saying here.

Michael Frazier
57 posted on 05/19/2006 8:15:24 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: APFel; Nova; de Buillion
APF reporting the truth that you are an idiot is not a personal attack its just stating the truth.

Maybe if you worked real hard and pulled your head down the air around your nose won't be so warm at body temperature and smell like say sewage??

58 posted on 05/19/2006 10:35:09 AM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; VPMWife78; Starman417; ajolympian2004; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; ...
FoxFan ping! (Fox "All Star" Charles Krauthammer)

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

59 posted on 05/19/2006 8:30:41 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: de Buillion
"You really DO sound like an IDIOT!"

I'm sure it was a joke. I've posted similar comments about Rush out of sarcasm.

60 posted on 05/19/2006 8:33:15 PM PDT by KoRn
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