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North American Union to Replace USA? ("is this the plan?" alert!)
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | 5/19/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/19/2006 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: pbrown

I don't get what this means:

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/2000/sept00/psrsept00.html


181 posted on 05/19/2006 10:28:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Plutarch

President Bush far from some sort of lackey to the Wall Street Journal's editorial page. He believed in steel tariffs (wrongly, in my opinion), promnised in the campain and follwed through on that promise despite opposition from the WSJ, Limbaugh, Hannity and every other conservative talk show host.

I agree President Bush is wrong as far as "jobs americans won't do" etc. But he is far from the open borders ideology of the WSJ.


182 posted on 05/19/2006 10:28:03 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: CIB-173RDABN
[ If true, would it not be better if those in on the conspiracy get along better (I mean, why would the Democrats try to destroy the effectiveness of the President, if he is doing what they want done?) ]

BECAUSE the more they attack Bush the more the faithful rally to him(even on free republic) SO that he can pass legislation NO democrat could hope to get passed with a republican Congress.. and conservative base.. i.e. expanding the scope and breath of givernment.. a.k.a. BIG givernment republicans

Pretty smart eh!.. thats why..
Shuush many republicans STILL don't know about this gambit..

183 posted on 05/19/2006 10:28:07 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: mjolnir
The same administration that appointed John Bolton as UN ambassador despite the the wishes of the "global community

The globalists want an EU centered global system, the "free trader" globalists in our government want a US centered global system. He's just one side of the same coin.
184 posted on 05/19/2006 10:29:54 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Dark Skies
Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA to include Canada,

NAFTA was Reagan's idea and does include Canada.

185 posted on 05/19/2006 10:33:24 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Dark Skies

Since no one else can come up with a rational answer to what's going on, this theory sounds plausible. Wouldn't be the first time We've had the wool pulled over our eyes.


186 posted on 05/19/2006 10:36:02 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Dark Skies

Great idea !!! It's high time we take over both of those countries.


187 posted on 05/19/2006 10:36:45 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for the link. It's a blue print for the dissolution of our sovereignty.

Many UN and NGO documents confirm the goals and plans of these tireless promoters of global governance in six areas:

* Using the rubric "Peace, Security and Disarmament," the UN wants to establish a UN standing army under the command of the UN Secretary-General, with the ultimate goal of disarming national armies. The UN reformers want to eradicate national sovereignty as a barrier to UN action and use the shibboleth "security of the people" to rationalize UN action inside sovereign countries (as in Kosovo). The plan is to transform sovereign countries into administrative units assigned to carry out UN policies. The UN even wants disarmament of personal guns, with the UN controlling the manufacture, sale, distribution and licensing of all firearms

. * In the area called "Eradication of Poverty," the UN wants debt cancellation for poor countries plus Western-financed social development. This means forcing the United States to turn over our wealth to UN bureaucrats to distribute to Third World dictators.

* Under the do-good caption "Human Rights," the UN plans to enforce its version of global human rights through UN treaties, each of which has its own international compliance commission. These include the UN treaties on the Rights of the Child, on Discrimination Against Women, on Civil and Political Rights, on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, and on the International Criminal Court (ICC).

* The heading "Sustainable Development" is designed to facilitate total UN control of the environment. In addition to bootstrapping power to the globalists under the unratified Biodiversity Treaty and Kyoto (Global Warming) Protocol, the plan is to use the UN Trusteeship Council to control the "global commons," which is UN terminology for the atmosphere, outer space, non-territorial seas, and the related environment that supports human life.

* "Globalization to Achieve Equity, Justice and Diversity" is a catch-all phrase to achieve any other power-grabbing goal the UN and NGO bureaucrats may dream up in the future. They want the authority to equalize rich and poor economies and pretend that redistribution of wealth is equity.

* "Strengthening and Democratizing the United Nations" is doubletalk for wiping out all power and influence that the United States might ever exercise in the United Nations. This goal calls for eliminating the veto and permanent member status in the Security Council and giving the UN the power to tax so that it will no longer depend on nations' appropriating funds to pay their dues. UN bureaucrats are salivating over the prospect of passing the Tobin Tax, the brainstorm of James Tobin who lobbied for it during the Copenhagen Summit in 1995. This plan to tax all international financial transactions would funnel an extraordinary $1.5 trillion a year to the UN. Other targets of UN taxing plans include international airline tickets, sea-shipped freight, and ocean fishing.

* Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Jesse Helms has been calling for the United Nations to reform itself and reduce its bloated budgets. But the UN "reform" agenda, now headed by Maurice Strong, is certainly very different from what Senator Helms has in mind.

Now, let some doubters on here dispute what lays ahead for this country.

188 posted on 05/19/2006 10:37:39 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown

Do you have any idea what Clinton signed?

And did the embedding of the NGOs with our Federal and Local governments tie Bush's hands from undoing what Clinton has done?

Or at least, make it harder to undo?


189 posted on 05/19/2006 10:41:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dark Skies
Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA to include Canada

HELLLOOOOOOOOO! Canada is, and has always been, a part of NAFTA.

190 posted on 05/19/2006 10:45:28 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Calpernia
Do you have any idea what Clinton signed?

Concerning the UN or CFR? Because the NGO is talked about in both.

191 posted on 05/19/2006 10:45:29 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: atomicpossum

He'd have a helluva lot of work to do with only two years left in his term (barring John Conyers).


Think about this; BushI, Bill Clinton, BushII, H. Clinton, BushIII (Jeb). If they've been working together, this allows for plenty of time to do their deeds.


192 posted on 05/19/2006 10:47:03 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Calpernia
And did the embedding of the NGOs with our Federal and Local governments tie Bush's hands from undoing what Clinton has done?

Didn't clinton sign onto the ICC, and didn't Bush strike it when he came into office? If my last sentence is correct, Bush can strike that as well.

193 posted on 05/19/2006 10:47:54 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
read post 133, don't agree with it.

At your own peril.

194 posted on 05/19/2006 10:50:01 AM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: hosepipe

I should have added - If all that was true, then it is too late to do anything anyway...

I still don't belive it


195 posted on 05/19/2006 10:51:19 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

What do you have to say about my post # 188?


196 posted on 05/19/2006 10:54:19 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Dark Skies

You guys seem to be reading much more into this than me. I'm no CFR fan by any measure but this article enters the tinfoil hat realm when it starts equating measures that are business and economic and security related to a drive to a common government (inferring a common constitution) for the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

There is nothing wrong with a free flow of people as long as they eventually go home and abide by U.S. law when they are here. And despite what the Buchananistas think, free trade is a good thing, just ask your $28 DVD player what it thinks about that issue.


197 posted on 05/19/2006 10:55:09 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Calpernia

It is not your research that is at flaw. It is the conclusion you reach from it.


198 posted on 05/19/2006 10:55:35 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Dark Skies

Does this system have a plan to disarm citizens? Not the UN but, our own Gov.


199 posted on 05/19/2006 10:56:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: InterceptPoint

The CFR is already in violation of our laws. Laws mean little today it seems.


200 posted on 05/19/2006 10:57:01 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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