North American Union to Replace USA? ("is this the plan?" alert!)

HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | 5/19/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

[gondramB]

>>DOBBS: Border security is arguably the critical issue in this country's fight against radical Islamist terrorism. But our borders remain porous. So porous that three million illegal aliens entered this country last year, nearly all of them from Mexico.

Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada.<<

Gotcha - so you are taking the CNN side.... :)

Seriously, Dobbs is echoing the border issue but I have to wonder who he is really representing. He is smart enough to have actually read the CFR proposal.

Now, if Fox falls in Mexico - we may not have a government there we can work with at all and another approach may be needed. But CFR proposals change over time due to current conditions.

[gondramB]

>>And did you just say that you think the President created the homeland security department as part of plot to do away with the U.S. as a nation?

No, but you did.

I asked if you knew where the department of homeland security got its name.<<

Then I apologize for mis-reading you post.

[hedgetrimmer]

Do you want to go through the document point by point?

[processing please hold]

Well it would help if the CFR proposals actually said anything like what they claim it says.

Such as......

[gondramB]

>>Do you want to go through the document point by point?<<

I've done that before and wouldn't mind doing it again. I've delayed going to work as long as possible so it would need to be this evening or over the weekend.

[gondramB]

>>Well it would help if the CFR proposals actually said anything like what they claim it says.

Such as......<<

For example, if it said anything about doing away with borders...

[mjolnir]

That's the only explanation that is consistent with their actions over the last 20 years. In truth, they've all sold us down the river for big business and a one world government which will benefit.... you guessed it.... big business.

Come on, you don't really believe that, do you? Take the VP. If Dick Cheney just cared about money, why did he leave the private sector, in which he was successful? What reason other than the promise of wealth could there be to suck up to Big Business?

[Rockitz]

Ping!

[hedgetrimmer]

Here is one little item that absolutely abrogates the right of the american citizen for a constitutional government.

Establish a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution.

page 22.

Open skies and open roads, allowing North American transportation firms unlimited access to each others’ territory.

Now how can you have a sovereign nation when you have no border with other nations?

Tested once’’ for biotechnology and pharmaceuticals.

Here's a goodie. Do all your safety testing in Mexico, with no oversight by the American people and our owns safety standards. This is the country that gave California lead in candy a few years back, hepatitus in green onions.

Finally, no controls over immigration because it would just be called 'labor mobility' instead.

The large volume of undocumentedmigrants fromMexico within the United States is an urgent matter for those two countries to address. A long-term goal should be to create a ‘‘North American preference’’—new rules that would make it much easier for employees to move and for employers to recruit across national boundaries within the continent.

No effective national boundaries, no sovereignty.

[hedgetrimmer]

I didn't see Bush's name anywhere in that quote. Where did you see it?

[F.J. Mitchell]

I know, miss williams, beer for me if ya don't mind.

As I recall daddy Bush more and more of late as his son's actions seem to be following his daddy's footsteps. I keep hearing an echo, over and over: "New world order....New world order.......New world order......."

[Artemis Webb]

"I've never thought of Phyllis Schlafly as a tin foil hat kook. Do you?"

Tin foil hat? No opinion there.

Kook? Absolutely!

[Teacher317]

EU organizing, American Union coming along via illegal immigration, South America getting all nutty... does anyone else get the feeling we're just setting up the board for a game of Risk?

(I get the black pieces)

[Rockitz]

Come on, you don't really believe that, do you?

There are lackeys out there that carry the torch - Cheney is one of 'em. That's what they do.

Peggy Noonan addresses it in her article posted yesterday. Click here!

"The other possibility is that the administration's slow and ambivalent action is the result of being lost in some geopolitical-globalist abstract-athon that has left them puffed with the rightness of their superior knowledge, sure in their membership in a higher brotherhood, and looking down on the low concerns of normal Americans living in America."

[processing please hold]

For example, if it said anything about doing away with borders...

Thank you.

[citizen]

This North American Union contention pops up from time to time.

Events on the ground are making it seem just a bit less like a Conspiracy Theory and a bit more like The NWO Game Plan is right on schedule.

[gidget7]

While I admit to having had this in the back of my mind, that place where you put the "no it couldn't be" matters, and yet not quite able to dismiss outright. I pray it isn't the case.

[Artemis Webb]

You are a total flake.

[mjolnir]

I didn't see Bush's name anywhere in that quote. Where did you see it?

You're right, I was wrong and jumped the gun... And it IS a wacked proposal as virtually everything from the CFR is!

[William Terrell]

Kook?

She certainly is one of the most prolific conservative writers. That's like calling Bill Buckley a kook. In her article link I posted, she links to the CFR document and it says what she says it says. Kinda hard to argue with black and white on parchment.