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Call It What It Is. The president’s plan is an illegal-immigrant amnesty.
National Review Online ^ | 05/25/06 | Congressman J.D. Hayworth

Posted on 05/25/2006 6:49:31 AM PDT by Fury

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To: yobid

Just read this on www.theoutdoorwire.com today.

800 National Guard soldiers, including planners and leadership personnel, will head to the U.S-Mexico border next week.

Lt. Gen. Steven Blum said 200 soldiers are preparing to go to each of four border states: California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico "around June 1." The initial troops will be part of a longer-term force of project managers who will stay on the job over time to provide continuity in the new border program.

Under the plan, most of the troops would spend about 21 days, which includes their normal annual two-week training mission, working along the border. The Guard troops would be used for engineering, road and fence building, transportation, logistics and surveillance and reconnaissance.

Guardsmen will not be assigned "significant" law enforcement duties but will be armed for "personal protection."


61 posted on 05/25/2006 9:23:40 AM PDT by girlangler (I'd rather be fishing)
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To: Plutarch

Or as Deep Throat (1973) put it: "Follow the money".


62 posted on 05/25/2006 9:24:49 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Texas Songwriter

You got that right. He would be swept into office regardless of the Rep, Dims, and MSM. Our two party system would be relegated to history. And about time.


63 posted on 05/25/2006 9:37:00 AM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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To: Darkwolf377
Darkwolf, it appears you object to some of the posters comments, but I cannot figure out whether Senator Darkwolf would vote Yea or Nay on S. 2611 today.

(I would vote Nay)

64 posted on 05/25/2006 9:37:45 AM PDT by Plutarch ((I would vote Nay))
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To: DoctorMichael
A wall.........ASAP.

How's that affect all those on this side already?

How's that stop the nearly half that enter the country legally and then just over-stay their visas?

There's miles of walls now and lots of tunnels and boats to simply come ashore on more thousands of miles of beaches.

65 posted on 05/25/2006 9:38:50 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: AmusedBystander

You take the practical aproach, just like Senor Jorge.....Since the country is invested with Criminals, no sense in trying to stop more from coming, best bet is just to grab your ankles and kiss America goodbye.


66 posted on 05/25/2006 9:44:26 AM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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To: Plutarch

Me too.


67 posted on 05/25/2006 9:48:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What would Thomas Pynchon do?)
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To: MVV

I find it hard to believe that Tony Snow, of all people, accepts and supports the GOP's 2006 Amnesty Bill.


68 posted on 05/25/2006 9:48:36 AM PDT by mickie
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To: democrats_nightmare

I think that's what puts me in a sarcastic vein when dealing with our dark forces. They have an increasing list of people they insult and condemn for not marching lock-step with them. Eventually, as we've seen in the Miers fiasco and with Dubai Ports, they end up condemning nearly the entire conservative movement.

The Bots will trash Ronald Reagan, and then cozy up to Carter, Clinton, Teddy, and Durbin. It's irrational.


69 posted on 05/25/2006 9:50:56 AM PDT by Luke21 (Democrats hate us, our heritage, and our religion. They think we belong in cages. Never forget.)
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To: kabar

K,
So let me see if I've got what you're saying...

Someone only breaks a law if it is not enforced by
the gov't?

If so, then you should have no problem granting amnesty
to immigrants to.

ampu


70 posted on 05/25/2006 9:51:25 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: Plutarch
"If enacted, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S.2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years—fully one-third of the current population of the United States."

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm

For those wondering.

As they say in the movie Force of Evil...

"I am sensible. I am calm. I'll give you my answer calmly and sensibly, my final answer. My final answer is finally no. The answer is no! Absolutely and finally no! Finally and positively no! No! No! No! N - O!"

71 posted on 05/25/2006 9:53:03 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What would Thomas Pynchon do?)
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To: Plutarch

P.S. Heritage's number crunching on this is pretty far-out, but that doesn't alter the fact that it's a stupid bill.


72 posted on 05/25/2006 9:54:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (What would Thomas Pynchon do?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Someone only breaks a law if it is not enforced by the gov't? If so, then you should have no problem granting amnesty to immigrants to.

No, what I am saying that it is the responsibility of the USG to enforce its laws. If employers are breaking the laws, they should be held accountable by the USG. The same holds true for illegal immigrants who should not be rewarded by the granting of amnesty. Either the laws mean something or they do not.

73 posted on 05/25/2006 9:57:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Darkwolf377

You might want to check my posting history which goes back way farther then yours.


74 posted on 05/25/2006 9:58:07 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Darkwolf377

See my tag line


75 posted on 05/25/2006 9:58:26 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Obsessive Compulsive Thread Nannyism. I hope I don't catch it.)
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To: Fury

JD is awesome....hope the idiotic Senate bill is DOA in the House!


76 posted on 05/25/2006 9:58:33 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: Darkwolf377

We could play this game to you must be a redneck.....


You must be a Thread Nanny if.....you can play the race card without being banned.


77 posted on 05/25/2006 10:03:21 AM PDT by tertiary01 (Obsessive Compulsive Thread Nannyism. I hope I don't catch it.)
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To: newcthem
You take the practical aproach, just like Senor Jorge

As opposed to the IMPRACTICAL approach which is not possible? Yes.

impractical adj 1: not practical; not workable or not given to practical matters; "refloating the ship proved impractical because of the expense"; "he is intelligent but too impractical for commercial work" [ant: practical] 2: not practical or realizable; speculative; "airy theories about socioeconomic improvement"; "visionary schemes for getting rich" [syn: airy, visionary, Laputan]

78 posted on 05/25/2006 11:12:11 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: Fury
Am-nes-ty: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.

If someone is in the country today illegally and the day after tomorrow they are here legally then amnesty happened in between. It is not a matter of citizenship many years from now, most of the Hispanics probably don't want to be citizens and are only here for the jobs.

When these illegals start working and collecting Earned Income Credits we will effectively be subsidizing the employers that hire them.

79 posted on 05/31/2006 8:41:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

bttt


80 posted on 05/25/2007 10:40:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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