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Kerry Pressing Swiftboat Case, Long After Loss ["They lied and lied and lied about everything,"]
New York Times ^

Posted on 05/27/2006 10:22:00 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Kerry Pressing Swiftboat Case, Long After Loss By KATE ZERNIKE

John Kerry starts by showing the entry in a log he kept from 1969: "Feb 12: 0800 run to Cambodia."

He moves on to the photographs: his boat leaving the base at Ha Tien, Vietnam; the harbor; the mountains fading frame by frame as the boat heads north; the special operations team the boat was ferrying across the border; the men reading maps and setting off flares.

"They gave me a hat," Mr. Kerry says. "I have the hat to this day," he declares, rising to pull it from his briefcase. "I have the hat."

Three decades after the Vietnam War and nearly two years after Mr. Kerry's failed presidential bid, most Americans have probably forgotten why it ever mattered whether he went to Cambodia or that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth accused him of making it all up, saying he was dishonest and lacked patriotism.

But among those who were on the frontlines of the 2004 campaign, the battle over Mr. Kerry's wartime service continues, out of the limelight but in some ways more heatedly — because unlike then, Mr. Kerry has fully engaged in the fight. Only those on Mr. Kerry's side, however, have gathered new evidence to prove their case.

The Swift boat group continues to spend money on Washington consultants, according to public records, and last fall it gave $100,000 to a group that promptly sued Mr. Kerry, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, for allegedly interfering with the release of a film that was critical of him.

Some of the principals behind the Swift boat group continue to press their claims.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Sub-Driver
Are not Kerry and his cronies a little late in refuting these charge? Like 2 years too late. This is going no where. The NY Times and their liberal cohorts cannot bring themselves to admit they lost. Plain as that.
141 posted on 05/27/2006 11:30:22 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Boston Tea Party
Kerry is correct, in a Clintonian way. The Swift Boat Vets did tell lies, unfortunately for him they were all Kerry's. He leaves out that part.
142 posted on 05/27/2006 11:32:34 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Sub-Driver

People talk about about how Karl Rove is such a genius, but it was the Swift Boat vets who got Bush elected instead of this incredibly stupid, lying dunce.


143 posted on 05/27/2006 11:35:16 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

"And I fart in his general direction."


144 posted on 05/27/2006 11:37:34 AM PDT by LS
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To: Sub-Driver

From A Vietnam Vet:

Memo To John Kerry: Go away and leave us along.


145 posted on 05/27/2006 11:38:01 AM PDT by oflyboy
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To: Sub-Driver

kerry knows his future ambitions are dead in the water unless he can eliminate the truth, oops, the swift vets.

He was counting on the MSM preventing the truth from being diseminated. He is reliant on a dinosaur media which keeps the public in the dark except for only kerry approved spin.

Democrats can not survive in an intelectual arena. They are dependent on a retarded intelect to survive.


146 posted on 05/27/2006 11:38:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mylife
Who else would have a personalized license plate, PH3? what a self centered (rice) ass

Possibly other CO's of PH-3? I know of several folks who have vanity plates indicating their old unit or ship. Including one belonging to the husband of FReeper PhiKapMom, whose unit was a Korean War era Marine Corps Air-Naval Gunfire Liaison Company.

147 posted on 05/27/2006 11:40:28 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Jeff Chandler

A Magic Hat.




Where is the rabbit......oh, excuse me I mean the Form.180???


148 posted on 05/27/2006 11:41:22 AM PDT by danamco
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To: LS

"And I fart in his general direction."

Me too! I fart in his SPECIFIC direction.


149 posted on 05/27/2006 11:42:14 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: ILS21R

LOL! Priceless, I!!!


150 posted on 05/27/2006 11:42:52 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

His father was a hampster, and his mother smelt of elderberries.


151 posted on 05/27/2006 11:43:15 AM PDT by LS
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To: Sub-Driver

From A Vietnam Vet:

Memo To John Kerry: Go away and leave us alone.


152 posted on 05/27/2006 11:43:16 AM PDT by oflyboy
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To: Sub-Driver
The Swift boat group insisted that no boats had gone to Cambodia. But Mr. Kerry's researcher, using Vietnam-era military maps and spot reports from the naval archives showing coordinates for his boat, traced his path from Ha Tien toward Cambodia on a mission that records say was to insert Navy Seals.

"toward" Cambodia - meaning upriver? And what records say Navy SEALS were to be inserted in Cambodia?

Let's see all the records, shall we!

153 posted on 05/27/2006 11:44:06 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: woodb01
Kerry has NEVER SIGNED HIS 180 RELEASE FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THE TRUTH!! Then again, he's a DEMONRAT!!! What do you expect from the party of sleaze, deception and Big Media propaganda!

· DNC-China Threat (15)
· DNC-Corruption (20)
· DNC-Racism (14)
· DNC-Treason (12)
· DNC-Vote Fraud (9)

Treason and corruption are absolutely NOTHING NEW to the Democrats. However their media outlets RARELY cover this.





You will NEVER see his Form. 180 like you will never see hitlery's dissertation which is a public documentary!??!
154 posted on 05/27/2006 11:44:24 AM PDT by danamco
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To: epow

Don't forget that Kerry never told the story of taking a mysterious "CIA agent" to Cambodia, untill after the release of Apocalypse Now. A story about a Navy swift boat taking a CIA agent to Cambodia. Quite a coincidence. I'm suprised he didn't say that the CIA agent was being sent to contact a ex-colonel who had gone native.


155 posted on 05/27/2006 11:45:28 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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To: Sub-Driver

Funny he didn't throw that hat over the fence with his medals?? What a phony.

Pray for W and Our Heroic Troops


156 posted on 05/27/2006 11:47:09 AM PDT by bray (Top 10 Bushbot!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Normally the vessel's log belongs to the vessel NOT to the Captain or any other crew member!??!


157 posted on 05/27/2006 11:47:37 AM PDT by danamco
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To: cibco
We sent them money last month also.

These men stood up and saved us from an imposter and worse. They have been harrassed, impugned and slandered by rat media creatures since.

We will never stop supporting these men, EVER.

AV (Vietnam '72-'73)

158 posted on 05/27/2006 11:48:31 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit (www.aroostookbeauty.com)
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To: zeaal

There's no proof of that.


159 posted on 05/27/2006 11:48:58 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: votelife
"well, he said he has the hat, so that proves it!"

I guess that Kerry can tell us the NAME of the "SEAL" that gave him that hat....

With THAT name, we can trace his AAR and confirm that he was delivered to Cambodia by Kerry...... SIMPLE...

I can still remember the names of almost everyone I served with -- even some of the brief encounters who NEVER gave me a hat that I've saved to this day for reporters to see....

Semper Fi

160 posted on 05/27/2006 11:49:09 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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