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John Kerry vs. Swift Vets (A re-match?)
Don't Get SOS ^ | May 27, 2006 | Dustin Hawkins

Posted on 05/27/2006 7:53:25 PM PDT by WatchYourself

The puff piece starts out: “John Kerry starts by showing the entry in a log he kept from 1969: “Feb 12: 0800 run to Cambodia.” Right off the bat, this is the first piece where the Swift Boat Vets were 100% correct. At the time, John Kerry stated that his trip took place on Christmas Eve in 1968. The SBV were right at the time, he was NOT iN Cambodia on Christmas Eve of 1968. Kerry had said that this moment was “seared” into him. After the Vets came out, Kerry had his personal biographer come out and it changed to “sometime in January.” Apparently all along it had been February 12, 1969. (And he has a hat to prove it)....

Sweetness and Light also brings up the point about the after-action report on the kid that Kerry shot. (The slimes “proved” that Kerry was telling the truth because the kid was laying on his back, not his stomach, and thus it would have been impossible for Kerry to have shot him while running away. Physics denies it!)

The after action report:

AND MOVED IMMEDIATELY TO ASSIST. PCF 94 BEACHED IN CENTER OF AMBUSH IN FRONT OF SMALL PATH WHEN VC SPRUNG UP FROM BUNKER 10 FEET FROM UNIT. MAN RAN WITH WEAPON TOWARDS HOOTCH, FORWARD M-60 GUNNER WOUNDED MAN IN LEG. OINC JUMPED ASHORE AND GAVE PURSUIT WHILE OTHER UNITS SATURATED AREA WITH FIRE AND BEACHED PLACING ASSAULT PARTIES ASHORE. OINC OF PCF 94 CHASED VC INLAND BEHIND HOOTCH AND SHOT HIM WHILE HE FLED CAPTURING ONE B-40 ROCKET LAUNCHER WITH ROUND IN CHAMBER. OINC’S OF PCF’S 43 AND 23 LED ASSAULT PARTIES THROUGH BRUSH AND JOINED WITH PCF 94 GROUP. PARTIES FR[O]M 3 ACF’S [PRO]CEEDED TO SWEEP AREA AND [ILLEGIBLE]

(Excerpt) Read more at dustinmhawkins.com ...


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1 posted on 05/27/2006 7:53:28 PM PDT by WatchYourself
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To: WatchYourself

Loser!!!


2 posted on 05/27/2006 7:54:26 PM PDT by Doc Hunter
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To: WatchYourself

Poor Kerry tried to get his boat sunk so he can rescue his crew, develop a serious back problem and then be elected Presdient. We're over JF Kerry at this point.


3 posted on 05/27/2006 7:56:11 PM PDT by Quark606
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To: WatchYourself
Kerry had said that this moment was “seared” into him.

and it's in the congressional record. What a doofus
4 posted on 05/27/2006 7:57:18 PM PDT by stylin19a (There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't)
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To: WatchYourself

Kerry needs to STFU.


5 posted on 05/27/2006 7:57:20 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: WatchYourself

Hopefully Kerry will get around to re-addressing his medals as well.

http://idexer.com/articles/kerry_medals.htm


6 posted on 05/27/2006 7:59:14 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Echo Talon

He still hasn't released his friggin military records. Pathetic dhead.


7 posted on 05/27/2006 8:00:00 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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To: WatchYourself

How do you put a round in the chamber of an RPG when it doesn't have one?


8 posted on 05/27/2006 8:01:30 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LINCOLN COUNTY RED DEVILS STATE CHAMPIONS)
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To: U S Army EOD

Good point.


9 posted on 05/27/2006 8:03:40 PM PDT by Quark606
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To: WatchYourself

Where's the promised full DD 180 ?????? Hello?????


10 posted on 05/27/2006 8:04:41 PM PDT by cookcounty (Change is everywhere....Got some right here in my pocket.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Swift Vets/Kerry/Texas Tech Vietnam Center PING
(If they come back to town, I want to cook them a homecooked meal).


11 posted on 05/27/2006 8:05:30 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: WatchYourself

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199448/posts More about the fool. Old but good.


12 posted on 05/27/2006 8:06:56 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: WatchYourself

"Mother, tell me again about how I shall be President one day."

13 posted on 05/27/2006 8:09:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RacerX1128
"He still hasn't released his friggin military records. Pathetic dhead"

Not making this up. I heard from a Kerry interview where he said he SIGNED his DD180...but it just wasn't sent yet.

14 posted on 05/27/2006 8:13:45 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: WatchYourself

Bring it on!


15 posted on 05/27/2006 8:18:02 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Well, the Vietnam Centre is THE place to go for research. Heck, I'd buy a round for the Swifties.


16 posted on 05/27/2006 8:18:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: cookcounty
Where's the promised full DD 180 ?????? Hello?????




As likely as you will ever see hitlery's dissertation!!!
17 posted on 05/27/2006 8:18:59 PM PDT by danamco
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To: WatchYourself

You ain't got a chance, Lurch. The Swift Boat Vets will kick your prissy butt--AGAIN!


18 posted on 05/27/2006 8:19:54 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: libs_kma
Not making this up. I heard from a Kerry interview where he said he SIGNED his DD180...but it just wasn't sent yet.

I heard that too, it was on Meet The Press. I seriously doubt he's even looked at a DD180 form.

19 posted on 05/27/2006 8:49:32 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: WatchYourself
He shot more videos, than vietcongs!

Zippo Hero


Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

20 posted on 05/27/2006 8:59:33 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: Echo Talon

"Kerry needs to STFU."

I don't want J F'n to EVER shut up. As it is, he just digs the hole deeper and deeper, the depth of that hole is seared, I tell you, seared in my mind! The dog fight btwn Kerry, Algore and her Thighness will be filled with dramatic comedy - I can't wait!


21 posted on 05/27/2006 9:06:33 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: WatchYourself

This Nation is expected to, with a wink and nod, allow this S.O.B. to serve as C.I.C.????? Bullsh-t!!!


22 posted on 05/27/2006 9:07:30 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Rembrandt
aww man...

not this sh*T again! LOL

23 posted on 05/27/2006 9:08:12 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: americanstrategist
" We're over JF Kerry at this point."

We are over his Presidential run, and isnt on out TV every day and night... BUT ... We are not completely over him yet. He is still 1 of 50 US Senators. He is still passing laws and spinning socialism with Ted Kennedy. He is still impacting all of us everytime the Senate votes. As long as he is in the Senate, we are still dealing with this ding-dong.

24 posted on 05/27/2006 9:31:03 PM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Think about this...the dude could have signed the DD180 back in the election and settled 30 percent of his issues...but he didn't. This story in the press...about him signing the document for release...is just a story and has never proven itself. He did the same thing last summer on Larry King...promising to sign the document very shortly....and never has.

He has no reason to release the document now...and it merely opens up doors that he shut in the 1970s. After the Carter administration cleaned his bad conduct discharge...he was free to run for the senate or do any public service he wanted...except be president. He should have considered just keeping his mouth shut and staying safe in the senate.


25 posted on 05/27/2006 9:31:58 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: WatchYourself

bump


26 posted on 05/27/2006 10:16:52 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: WatchYourself; All
This just in from the blogosphere:

TOM MAGUIRE: "John Kerry wants to re-fight the Swift Boats wars.  ( Fine - here is a link to the Schachte story, here are my questions about that incident ) [More Schachte backstory from May 4 - "Schachte ready to re-engage in Kerry Purple Heart dispute"]   My goodness, that is the only thing that could get the Times to cover this - during his campaign they stayed about as far from this story as Kerry was from Cambodia at Christmas time...
 

I got into blogging because of John Kerry's "reporting for duty" and as support for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. I was contributing to their site and wanted to expand on a comment I'd written there, and the rest is history as I started The Squiggler Please join us this weekend in "Honoring our Fallen Heroes." Real heroes, not the phony Kerry kind. My Navy husband was not a Swift Boater, but he was attached to the Mobile Riverine Force, Mekong Delta at the same time Lt. John Kerry was serving there. They were the rescue and salvage team that went out and brought the damaged Swift Boats back for repairs. I first heard about "a cowardly LT" in early 1969. And then again in 1971-1972 after his "Winter Soldier" embarrassment. The reaction I had the night he stood up there and saluted and "reported for duty," my reaction was intense and visceral and brought back all those old memories. John Kerry, next to Jane Fonda, was and is one of the most despised people of the Vietnam Era.

#317 Bubble Girl  5/27/2006 11:36PM PDT
 

311 Swamprat

No, I don't hate Kerry. But I am very concerned that someone such as this man could almost get into the White House. This is very serious to me.

This man was in a big way responsible for smearing all the living and dead who served in Vietnam. It was a terrible time for our country but this man sat before Congress and knowingly told lies, that our men in Vietnam were raping babies, killing civilians, cutting off body parts..

And then he had the gall to proclaim that he could be a good Commander In Chief.


27 posted on 05/28/2006 2:19:50 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: WatchYourself
It never bothered me that Kerry shot a fleeing VC, no mater what the shootee's age was or that it may have been in the back; that's war. The real problem was that he got so charged up with adrenalin that he abandoned the boat and crew that he was the "officer in charge" of to go on a private glory seeking mission. As OIC his job was to remain in command of the boat and direct other people to physically run down and kill the VC, including that one.
28 posted on 05/28/2006 6:22:11 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: WatchYourself

Trying to clear his record is not a reason to run for President again. Go home, John.


29 posted on 05/28/2006 6:24:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: libstripper
I, too, got hooked on internet blogging due to the great job that the "Swifties" did in exposing the real John Kerry that I am old enough to remember from the Vietnam era. For that we owe them a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid. Even though President Bush has made mistakes, he has never wavered from his commitment to the GWOT, even in the face of the polls and the negativity of the drive-by MSM.

What I was wondering, if, God forbid, John McCain were to receive the Republican nomination for POTUS and John Kerry were to be renominated (another unlikely scenario), John McCain would be as dismissive of the Swift Vets as he was during the 2004 campaign. He had to know that they were telling the truth, yet he dissed them at every opportunity.
30 posted on 05/28/2006 7:01:38 AM PDT by srmorton
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To: WatchYourself

There is no evidence that any naval craft were used after the early 60s to infiltrate into either Cambodia or Laos. All cross border operations during the time Kerry was in Vietnam were under the authority of MACV SOG. In the case of where Kerry was operating, it would have been an organization known as Command and Control South (CCS) based out of Ban Me Thout. H-34 helicopters were the primary vehicle used for insertions. Occasionally Hueys would be used.

The orders would have to have come through Kerry's chain of command, especially since the Army ran the cross border operations, and a request for support would have had to go from the CO CCS through MACVSOG to IV Corps and ultimately to the Navy commander in the area.

All cross border operations during that time required a top secret security clearance, and all insertion vehicles, weapons and soldiers had all identification removed. Weapons even had serial numbers removed. This was to ensure deniability.


31 posted on 05/28/2006 7:10:31 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: WatchYourself; johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; JLO; gidget7; nopardons; ...

LT ping!

don't forget to add those keywords, too, folks......"once, twice three times a loser" didn't fit, lol...


32 posted on 05/28/2006 7:20:24 AM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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To: bitt

good info and response to the Times piece...

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3960


33 posted on 05/28/2006 7:36:00 AM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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To: WatchYourself; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; OneLoyalAmerican; bkwells; ...

Karl Rove knew, Nov. 7, 2004 , that hanoi kerry would try to run in '08
and knew Swift Boat Vet's would be called upon,
again, to serve our country.

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Documents


34 posted on 05/28/2006 7:42:47 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Support the troops by exposing the threats to them like hanoi kerry, Medea Benjamin and Code Pink)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


35 posted on 05/28/2006 7:46:31 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
The American People have already figured out which of the two(the Swift Vets or Kerry)is a liar.

John Kerry is NOT President.

redrock

36 posted on 05/28/2006 7:53:57 AM PDT by redrock ("I'll learn to speak Spanish.......when it snows in Hell.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Yes, that was an act of treason during wartime, imho.


37 posted on 05/28/2006 7:55:14 AM PDT by bvw
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

38 posted on 05/28/2006 8:20:45 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

""Not making this up. I heard from a Kerry interview where he said he SIGNED his DD180...but it just wasn't sent yet.""

It is being delivered via SNAIL mail : )


39 posted on 05/28/2006 8:41:11 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Kerry Hangs Back From Disclosure to All
The NY Sun June 9, 2005 Josh Gerstein

http://www.nysun.com/article/15135

Did Kerry really release Navy records?
Chicagao Sun Times June 9, 2005 THOMAS H. LIPSCOMB

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lip09.html


40 posted on 05/28/2006 8:47:53 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: WatchYourself

Just in case you missed the other thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639360/posts

I'm still just shakin' my head and trying to figure out what total lack of brain power made the Slime or kerry (Yes, the lower case is there for a reason) poke a stick into the hornets' nest again.........

- Maybe somebody on kerry's legal team told him that they've spent enough on litigation that the Swiftys are "almost-just-about-maybe" silenced and the time has come to celebrate and also smoke out any other potential troublemakers.

- Maybe the Slime's sources inside the Beltway are in Silent Run/CYA mode until the heat dies down about the NSA leaks, and this Ode to kerry was the only thing they could find to print for Memorial Day.

Actually, the Slime could have saved their time and the trees.

All I have to hear is kerry's name to get aggravated.


41 posted on 05/28/2006 8:50:32 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: Echo Talon

Let him talk, the longer he rants the farther his delusions of grandeur depart from what the facts actually record.


42 posted on 05/28/2006 8:51:29 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Representatives and Mr. President: Why are you all trying to destroy our culture?)
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To: WatchYourself

They whine and complain how Kerry was attacked with lies about this one issue...EVERYDAY for his entire Presidency BUSH IS ATTACKED with lies and not a peep from the MSM about how UNFAIR it is. I HATE THESE PEOPLE.


43 posted on 05/28/2006 8:54:00 AM PDT by Hildy ("Whenever someone smiles at me all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life." - Dwight Schrute)
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To: WatchYourself

They whine and complain how Kerry was attacked with lies about this one issue...EVERYDAY for his entire Presidency BUSH IS ATTACKED with lies and not a peep from the MSM about how UNFAIR it is. I HATE THESE PEOPLE.


44 posted on 05/28/2006 8:54:05 AM PDT by Hildy ("Whenever someone smiles at me all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life." - Dwight Schrute)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

""There is no doubt there are a lot of after-action records missing from what Kerry has released," said Sullivan.

Kerry's not talking



Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs has already found a discrepancy confirmed by the Department of the Navy of "at least a hundred pages" missing from those already disclosed by Kerry.""

Kerry is a pathological liar, coward, and a fraud, period!
Good catch, Tonk.
Bump


45 posted on 05/28/2006 9:00:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

""All I have to hear is kerry's name to get aggravated.""

Me too, just like Pavlov's dog : )



46 posted on 05/28/2006 9:01:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Hildy
It's not nice to hate, Hildy; these fools are to be pitied.
47 posted on 05/28/2006 9:02:16 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Representatives and Mr. President: Why are you all trying to destroy our culture?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Carriers of the pathological liar virus within the democrat community, are shielded from exposure as zealously as are carriers of the HIV virus within the homosexual community.
48 posted on 05/28/2006 9:14:16 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Representatives and Mr. President: Why are you all trying to destroy our culture?)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 05/28/2006 9:38:25 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bitt; nicmarlo; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; La Enchiladita; JustPiper; ...




"Hanoi John, " uhh Lt. Kerry
Your S180 Form please?



50 posted on 05/28/2006 11:11:20 AM PDT by Smartass (Vaya con Dios - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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