Posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:05 PM PDT by Coop
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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation. Rather, their outrage was reserved for John Murtha and yours truly.
One poster's reaction was to "nuke the Middle East" adding "thank you very much Dishonourable Rep. Jack Murtha". He was later to write "if you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them".
A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.
The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.
Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War. There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.
If the public, as represented by the 119 posters on the Free Republic website, condones such behaviour or seeks to excuse it, then not only is its members giving their country's soldiers a license to kill arbitrarily, they are altering the fundamental psyche of their nation.
To quote a well-known rationalist intellectual Felix Adler "Love of country is like love of women - he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."
The "Freepers" - as members of the Free Republic website have come to be known - may also like to contemplate the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."
In short, people who glorify soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children are as misguided as those who glorify the blowing up of crowded buses, trains and marketplaces.
Does the donning of a uniform render its wearer impervious to justice? The Nuremberg trials indicate not...
God gave us our Country....... our Brave Military Troops have given this Nation our Freedoms. It is those Troops that continue to protect our Freedoms!
Murtha and every other damn American citizen, OWES our Troops the benefit of doubt and a fair trial. ANYTHING less is TRAITORIOUS.
Now bitch,(oh, I'm sorry, I mean Ms. Heard)....go get shot at and see your brothers blow to bits....see his brains and guts all over your uniform....smell the death, hear the cries, see the pain, feel the fear, taste the rancid air....THEN get back to us about your feelings on the matter, bitch.
This is the lefts wet dream.
They hate all military and only see bad even in the face of all good.
The fact the USA will deal with criminal acts without hesitation is 100% wasted on these leftists.
For her the glass is too big, 1/2 empty, and the water is wet.
The fact that this murdering troop has the support ....
Oddly enough, a couple of days ago I heard a news report regarding the sentencing of a suspect. Read it carefully, the suspect was receiving a sentence.
It tells me that journalists have "alleged" and "suspect" programmed into their (mental) word processors to appear in just about every sentence about criminals (now even after they are convicted and are receiving their sentences).
BUT, they can't follow their own rules and procedures and say "allegedly murdering troop" or "troops under investigation" or "suspected war criminals. No, their a murdering troop. I really really don't admire and like journalists a lot (I started to say bad words, but didn't want to descend to their name-calling despicable level, the children of people who are not married!).
You took the words right out of my mouth!
If the Marines in question are proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt in a military court of deliberately murdering innocent Iraqi women and children with malice aforethought I am quite sure that most FReeps on that thread, myself included, would agree that they should be punished appropriately.
Veteran returns winning lottery ticket found at Long Island store
BAY SHORE, N.Y., May 29 — An Army sergeant and his girlfriend [Edward Boniberger and Marnie Hall] found a winning lottery ticket at a convenience store Monday and turned it in to police, who were able to find its owner — a $2,500 winner with no idea her lucky ticket was missing.
Boniberger was stationed with the 1st Battalion, 69th Infantry, in Baghdad and returned to the U.S. in September 2005.
I would appreciate your comment about this "murderous" soldier.
She is just pissed she didn't turn all FReepers against the War and the President. Poor baby. Some of us are immune to the Rat propaganda machine.
He did admit to that before he said he really didn't see or participate personally.
Would "Ginjus Kahn" have done a flip-flop of that sort?
The reason he made the original untrue claims was to bolster his anti-war activities, the same as murtha and Ms. heard.
He did admit to that before he said he really didn't see or participate personally.
Would "Ginjus Kahn" have done a flip-flop of that sort?
The reason he made the original untrue claims was to bolster his anti-war activities, the same as murtha and Ms. heard.
So this story has gone from Marines not being careful to purposefully hunting three-year olds? Liberals have abandoned their rose-colored glasses in favor LSD-tainted kool-aid.
Thanks for the ping!
Dear Ms. Heard,
In the military, a single soldier or Marine is referred to as a "troop". Several Marines would be several troops (plural). It is in the Boy Scouts that a group of scouts is referred to as a "troop" (singular), as in "a Boy Scout troop".
Hope this helps.
Regards,
LH
"If you cant stand behind our troops, stand in front of them."
New tagline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ms. Heard
Ever hear of trying someone in the press without proof and feeding the frenzy to incite hatred for America?
What about the presumed innocent until proven guilty? Or is that only for democrats who maintain their legislative position even though caught on tape taking bribes?
And, should it be true, appropriate action will be taken as this is handled by the military of the United States of America - not a third world country run by a dictator.
What a surprise - we have mass murderers in the U.S. Gee, what if one of them joined the military because they like killing people? What if a thief signed up, a rapist?
You and the media would of course assume the whole military are thieves or rapists and set about to destroy the reputation of America, the U.S. military as well as every soldier giving his life for your freedom to insult, prejudge and malign the U.S. Military and all our soldiers for the insane actions of one or two.
I had this to say about you originally: IMO, she is bad news and appears to be very biased and is no friend of the United States. I didn't read anything that validated or proved what she has written is true. She is not going to accept anything positive about the Marines or the United States, and I am not going to accept anything she writes as being factual! She isn't worth spitting on if she was on fire.
I make no apologies for it. You criticize us for not condemning the Marines, and yet, you rush to condemn them and the United States before the studies are even completed. Because of the United States of America, you are free to write the poison you do...our veterans are the ones who secured freedom for Europe during World War I and II, and I would think you would have some appreciation for the freedoms you are enjoying. You are such a left-wing radical that you won't admit the truth about what you owe the USA!
Today is Memorial Day, and I honor all veterans who sacrificed their lives, and I especially pay tribute to those who are risking their lives today on foreign soil so that I can continue to live in a free country. I remember as a child how I couldn't wait to buy a poppy flower so everyone would know I honored the veterans...I still do! All the garbage and lies you write will not change that. Do not expect me to condemn the Marines because of what you and John Murtha say! If it is found that they made mistakes, they'll suffer the consequences, but I'll be damned if I will participate in the traitorous acts you and John Murtha are perpetrating by trying to destroy their morale and ruin their reputations! Shame on you and Murtha, and thank you, ALL VETERANS and military men and women, for the sacrifices you have made, and are making, for this nation!
No one on FR condones murder.
We have every reason to want them given a fair trial from past experience. Oh and we don't trust Murtha.... so we must be wrong?
whatever.
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