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Shameful reactions to Haditha 'atrocity' (Whines Incessantly About Free Republic!)
Gulf News ^ | 5/29/06 | Linda S. Heard (grab your tissues)

Posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:05 PM PDT by Coop

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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation. Rather, their outrage was reserved for John Murtha and yours truly.

One poster's reaction was to "nuke the Middle East" adding "thank you very much Dishonourable Rep. Jack Murtha". He was later to write "if you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them".

A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.

The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.

Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War. There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.

If the public, as represented by the 119 posters on the Free Republic website, condones such behaviour or seeks to excuse it, then not only is its members giving their country's soldiers a license to kill arbitrarily, they are altering the fundamental psyche of their nation.

To quote a well-known rationalist intellectual Felix Adler "Love of country is like love of women - he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."

The "Freepers" - as members of the Free Republic website have come to be known - may also like to contemplate the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."

In short, people who glorify soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children are as misguided as those who glorify the blowing up of crowded buses, trains and marketplaces.

Does the donning of a uniform render its wearer impervious to justice? The Nuremberg trials indicate not...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 12th; clintonistas; district; freerepublic; haditha; irey; murtha; murthawatch; pennsylvania; traitor; treason
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To: Coop

If she'd ever peek out of her little bubble, she wouldn't be so ignorant. Then again, she needs her ignorance to survive in that bubble. Oh well. Just step over her. The road to freedom was paved with such fools, and must be patched with them from time to time.


241 posted on 05/29/2006 10:08:44 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: AlaninSA
My response to her ...
As you are writer of some erudition, I would appeal to you to consider several points.

You do not know that the Marines are guilty. Neither you nor I nor anyone else can know because the case has not come to trial and the evidence is not in. At this time all we have are confused reports and Hersey. Yet you see no problem in declaring our Marines tried and found guilty in the press. You have declared it so, therefore it must be so. American schoolchildren used to be taught that Americans were innocent until proven guilty. In any other context involving any other group or individual I am sure you would be appalled at the injustice before us, but - well - these are only Marines and good fodder for a political statement.

Secondly, the use of a staged massacre as propaganda strategy is not unknown or uncommon. It was practiced in Vietnam and attempted before in Iraq. It worked well then and it can work today precisely because too many Americans leap to judgment, think emotionally, react according to a political agenda rather than facts, fail to question the accusation and equally fail to place the responsibility for judgment within the proper venue - the courts, not the media.

Until such time as the Marines are found guilty in the proper course of justice, I will stand behind them against any propaganda from those who sought to kill them. Until then, to speculate is in itself an injustice.

C. Miller
Fairbanks, AK
242 posted on 05/29/2006 10:16:27 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (NOT ON MY WATCH!)
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To: Coop
Theologian Howard Thurman is supposedly a Christian? And he says, "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."

He calls our warrior heroes haters?? I say, "A pox on this so-called theologian, on his house and on his bogus church!" His words are limp and empty - as are yours.

243 posted on 05/29/2006 10:24:33 PM PDT by Humidston (Congress is like the Mafia - NO PAY, NO PLAY.)
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To: PeskyOne
Doctor Bayb would prescribe her one of these, to improve her vision, if not for the complications. They don't make them in a dosage that would be appropriate for this patient (anything above mild would send her system into lethal shock), and there's not one of them that would willingly agree to be taken by her. Prognosis is poor. Treatment is futile. No care shall be administered.


244 posted on 05/29/2006 10:25:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: Coop

Dear Ms. Heard,

Please provide proof of "soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children".

Your story forgot to provide proof of assasination. It only provided evidence of accusations.


245 posted on 05/29/2006 10:26:41 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Coop

Ms Heard: Ignorance can be cured by knowledge. Stupid however is terminal. My condolences on your impending demise.


246 posted on 05/29/2006 10:28:44 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: Coop; SandRat; All
Thanks for the ping, Coop.

Y'all don't feed the troll. She has received more attention from the posters on this single thread than she gets from her half-vast readership in the Gulf in a week.

I'm going to have to blog on this tomorrow.

She is collaborating with Murtha to foment riots. They read gulfnews.com in Kabul.

247 posted on 05/29/2006 10:30:34 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ( http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

"This is journalist talk for, "THEY'RE GUILTY! LET'S LYNCH 'EM!" "

Guess this jounalist does not believe in innocent until proven guilty. At least, not for those who give her the opportunity to work the job she has.


248 posted on 05/29/2006 10:32:49 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Coop

249 posted on 05/29/2006 10:35:54 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Coop

Ms Heard,

You didn't read very carefully. There are several posters at FR who were just as quick as you and John Murtha to condemn the Marines without benefit of trial.


250 posted on 05/29/2006 10:37:28 PM PDT by JCEccles (“It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” Jefferson)
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To: chemicalman

"My bet is that the terrorist killed innocents just to blame it on the Marines for pr attention."

My thinking on this is, considering a 3 to 5 hour fight, and our troops being fired on, either: the terrorists killed the women and children, the terrorists used the women and children for human shields, or the women and children were the ones doing the firing on our troops.

I simply do not see our troops being fired on from 1 or more sources, and instead going into locations different than where the fire was coming from and killing anyone there.


251 posted on 05/29/2006 10:40:04 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: MikeA
"As I said on my original posting......"

I bet she already does. ;-)

252 posted on 05/29/2006 10:53:29 PM PDT by Humidston (Congress is like the Mafia - NO PAY, NO PLAY.)
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To: Coop

"It was many years ago, but it was indeed an honor."

Thank you for your sevice.


253 posted on 05/29/2006 11:08:23 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: BykrBayb

The LAT did a hit piece on that soldier a couple weeks ago.
I am really starting to get up set with the media :(


254 posted on 05/29/2006 11:17:08 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I'm glad I missed that. I can't imagine how anyone could do a hit piece on him. I suppose anyone in their little bubble world is a barbarian if they don't hold their pinky just right when drinking Kool Aid.


255 posted on 05/29/2006 11:22:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: Hardastarboard

>>>The outrage on Free Republic has to do with the fact that most of us here have seen this kind of bu!!$h!t smear time after time by the drive-by media, and we know that the likelihood is great that the crime never happened, or at least not as it has been characterized.

Weren't the Israeli's drawn and quartered over a Palestinian sniping their own kind and the death of the child getting blamed on the Israeli military that had been in a fire fight with them at the same time?

If so, then you'd think little Ms. Blame-America-First-And-Guilty-Before-Facts-Are-In would know about this gambit.


256 posted on 05/29/2006 11:26:06 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Coop
Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country

Maybe in this writer's fantasyland. I thought the point of the military was to defend us from our enemies. Leave the "ambassadorships" to the pointy headed diplomats who blow smoke up each other's a**es.

257 posted on 05/29/2006 11:37:06 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: All
"Freedom of the Press, is the last refuge of the scoundrel,

and all other Liberals"

- - Marc Costanzo

The Pulitzer Prize is the modern 30 pieces of Silver"

- - M. C.

Patriotism is the love of one's country, - neither Liberals,
nor Lefties, can be accused of that !

Having served in the military in the past, does not a
loyal American make -
unless you count Benedict Arnold, Lee Harvey Oswald,
Al Gore, Oliver Stone, or John Kerry . . .
258 posted on 05/29/2006 11:41:34 PM PDT by marc costanzo ("The Only Poll that Matters, is the One at the Ballot Box" --Truman)
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To: jveritas

Agreed, I was parroting Murtha's position to note that, even IF true, his actions were indefensible.


259 posted on 05/29/2006 11:48:33 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Coop

bump


260 posted on 05/30/2006 12:00:44 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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