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On a Marine Base, Disbelief Over Charges
New York Times ^ | May 29, 2006 | Carolyn Marshall

Posted on 05/30/2006 6:00:23 AM PDT by Peach

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif., May 29 — In this "company town" where everything and everyone caters to the well-being of the Marine Corps, there is no shortage of people, both military and civilian, who are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the troops accused of unjustified killings last November in Haditha, Iraq.

Relatives and neighbors gathered near the shrouded bodies of civilians said to have been killed by marines in Haditha, Iraq, in November.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/world/middleeast/30voices.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anamericansoldier; haditha; marines; murthawatch
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To: Peach

No need to thank me, Peach. It is my honor to support our military. I always have, and always will. God bless them for standing watch as my family and myself sleep well under the blanket they provide.


41 posted on 05/30/2006 7:09:01 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Peach
"...those weren't my words but his."

Whew! I've known and watched your behavior enough here on FR to be almost certain that was the case -- but the comment caused even me to "do a doubletake"...long enough to go back and re-read what you wrote.

Nex time, please use italics or "quotation marks" (or both, as I did above) when quoting/citing another. You almost caused a few heart attacks! LOL!!

42 posted on 05/30/2006 7:09:24 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!!! AND START IN AUSTIN!!!)
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To: All
First, this "journalist", Carolyn Marshall should know that M is capitalized in Marine.

Second, since no one has been even indicted much less convicted, I suggest everyone wait until the final verdict comes in before making unsubstantiated accusations.

And finally, since today is Memorial Day. A day when we memorialize those who made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom including Marines. On this day of all days, one would think of all days that we wouldn't have to read this left wing propaganda.

Semper Fi,
Kelly
43 posted on 05/30/2006 7:10:31 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: r9etb
There are some, however, who are in essence saying that it wouldn't be that big a deal even if they were guilty.

And there are some who are saying "They're guilty, because Murtha and some sources say so."

44 posted on 05/30/2006 7:11:51 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: r9etb

I doubt that freepers think it wouldn't be a big deal, per se. But rather, mistakes happen in war. Men who are being shot at and watching their buddies get killed sometimes over-react.

My husband has been sick and we spent two days watcing old war (mostly WWII) movies on television. There are numerous incidents of over-reacting in every war ever fought. This war has had fewer of those incidents than any other in the history of warfare.

Even if these men over-reacted, I'll be pleased to see them taken off the battlefield, but do I want them to pay for a mistake for the rest of their lives? Absolutely not.

Murderers in this country receive more of the benefit of a doubt than these Marines are getting and I'm sick of it.


45 posted on 05/30/2006 7:11:56 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: TXnMA

LOL. I'm so sorry, TxnMA; I should have posted that better.

BTW, what the heck is a person from Texas doing in Massachusetts? You must feel like you've landed in lala land.


46 posted on 05/30/2006 7:13:15 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: pbrown

It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protester to burn the flag. --Admiral Jeremiah Denton


47 posted on 05/30/2006 7:14:33 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: kellynla
And finally, since today is Memorial Day. A day when we memorialize those who made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom including Marines. On this day of all days, one would think of all days that we wouldn't have to read this left wing propaganda.

Anti-American and anti-military jumped on this specifically because it WAS Memorial Day. Much like atheist slam Jesus at Christmas time.

48 posted on 05/30/2006 7:19:15 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: LS
Laura Ingraham saying her sources in the Pentagon say it's bad. I think some Freepers are putting their heads in the sand, rather than realizing that what makes us GREAT is that when such atrocities occur with our fighting forces, WE identify it, WE prosecute it, WE try it, and WE address it.

I don't see the N. Koreans or al-Qaeda interested in trying anyone for atrocities they commit.

Professor, did GI's in the big one take their Brownies with them and sell the photographs to LOOK?

This story is walking BS.

Even if every bit of it is true, the onus is on the insurgent and radical Baathist to not get in a fire-fight in the presence of their families. It's a no brainer, they shouldn't try to prove Darwin's theory in battle.

Add one more: WE play right into the hands of those that wish to destroy our nation.

49 posted on 05/30/2006 7:20:31 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Peach

Every time I read that it gives me the chills. It's so beautiful and so true.


50 posted on 05/30/2006 7:21:56 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: LS
Good morning.
"I think some Freepers are putting their heads in the sand"

I think what ticks some of us off is the apparent eagerness of many in the MSM, and in some here, to believe that the Marine are guilty of a massacre.

There is no assumption of innocence even with the Media and the Left's record of lying through their teeth.

We will know the truth eventually.

Michael Frazier
51 posted on 05/30/2006 7:23:20 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: pbrown

Where was the outrage when Clinton had the military bomb Bosnia from 25,000 feet? How many civilians were killed? Thousands and thousands.

But that was okay with the left.

This war has seen fewer civilian casualities than any warfare ever conducted.


52 posted on 05/30/2006 7:24:18 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Peach

Very good quote!!

Think of this, first the the accident with a truck in Kabul, which happened because the brakes overheated and gave out, than this in Iraq, almost within the same time period wasn't it?

In both cases the natives were screaming against our troops, sounds an awful lot like there is a propaganda campaign going on with the help of the lib MSM.


53 posted on 05/30/2006 7:24:28 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Peach
I linked the Marine's letter in the Washington Post; those weren't my words but his. He took Murtha to the woodshed.

Okay, good, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Murtha should be keelhauled.

54 posted on 05/30/2006 7:24:48 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck ("Are you... a pacifist...?" "No sir, I'm a coward!")
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To: ClaireSolt

The problem is that if they didn't do it, the damage is already done. Nothing will convince our enemies that they didn't do it, and they are already preparing to take full advantage of it. By now the truth is a minor detail.


55 posted on 05/30/2006 7:27:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: All


MEMORIAL DAY

All gave some, some gave all.

Freedom is not Free

Semper Fi,
Kelly

56 posted on 05/30/2006 7:28:44 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Peach
Now Peach, he was a dimorat and dimorats can do no wrong.

This war has seen fewer civilian casualities than any warfare ever conducted.

And the media are just shouting that fact to high heaven, aren't they...

I'm so disgusted with the leftist media. I can't believe half of them haven't been jailed and the other half waiting for their trial.

57 posted on 05/30/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: pbrown
I'm so disgusted with the leftist media. I can't believe half of them haven't been jailed and the other half waiting for their trial.

Ditto that. bbl

58 posted on 05/30/2006 7:30:01 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Peach

Peach, Thank you for your dedicated service to this country. These people should get a standard response. "Fight for your own freedom, or we will do it for you. No bitching allowed if you don't like the results." If our military won't support our boys, they aren't going to have many more that will make the sacrifice.


59 posted on 05/30/2006 7:30:14 AM PDT by SaveUS
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To: SaveUS

Just to be clear, SaveUS, I didn't post that link very well.

The Marine who wrote that letter to Murtha wasn't me; those were the Marine's words I was quoting. He was charged with premeditated murder in Iraq and autopsy evidence cleared him.

His letter to Murtha condemned Murtha in the strongest terms possible.


60 posted on 05/30/2006 7:32:45 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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