Women, Sex, and Taboos in Saudi Society

MEMRI/Al-Arabiya TV ^ | 6-1-06 | Zaynab Hifni

[Fred Nerks]

"An unreliable hadith?! I believe in that hadith, because it appeared in the collection of Al-Bukhari or of Al-Muslim, I think."


A little research before the interview might have been useful...

Translation of Sahih Bukhari
Translator: M. Muhsin Khan

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Please read our introduction to this collection (listed below by book number). You may also search for a particular hadith.


Revelation
Belief
Knowledge
Ablutions (Wudu')
Bathing (Ghusl)
Menstrual Periods
Rubbing hands and feet with dust (Tayammum)
Prayers (Salat)
Virtues of the Prayer Hall (Sutra of the Musalla)
Times of the Prayers
Call to Prayers (Adhaan)
Characteristics of Prayer
Friday Prayer
Fear Prayer
The Two Festivals (Eids)
Witr Prayer
Invoking Allah for Rain (Istisqaa)
Eclipses
Prostration During Recital of Qur'an
Shortening the Prayers (At-Taqseer)
Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
Actions while Praying
Funerals (Al-Janaa'iz)
Obligatory Charity Tax (Zakat)
Obligatory Charity Tax After Ramadaan (Zakat ul Fitr)
Pilgrimmage (Hajj)
Minor Pilgrammage (Umra)
Pilgrims Prevented from Completing the Pilgrimmage
Penalty of Hunting while on Pilgrimmage
Virtues of Madinah
Fasting
Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
Retiring to a Mosque for Remembrance of Allah (I'tikaf)
Sales and Trade
Sales in which a Price is paid for Goods to be Delivered Later (As-Salam)
Hiring
Transferance of a Debt from One Person to Another (Al-Hawaala)
Representation, Authorization, Business by Proxy
Agriculture
Distribution of Water
Loans, Payment of Loans, Freezing of Property, Bankruptcy
Lost Things Picked up by Someone (Luqaata)
Oppressions
Partnership
Mortgaging
Manumission of Slaves
Gifts
Witnesses
Peacemaking
Conditions
Wills and Testaments (Wasaayaa)
Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)
One-fifth of Booty to the Cause of Allah (Khumus)
Beginning of Creation
Prophets
Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions
Companions of the Prophet
Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar)
Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)
Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh))
Virtues of the Qur'an
Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)
Divorce
Supporting the Family
Food, Meals
Sacrifice on Occasion of Birth (`Aqiqa)
Hunting, Slaughtering
Al-Adha Festival Sacrifice (Adaahi)
Drinks
Patients
Medicine
Dress
Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab)
Asking Permission
Invocations
To make the Heart Tender (Ar-Riqaq)
Divine Will (Al-Qadar)
Oaths and Vows
Expiation for Unfulfilled Oaths
Laws of Inheritance (Al-Faraa'id)
Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood)
Punishment of Disbelievers at War with Allah and His Apostle
Blood Money (Ad-Diyat)
Dealing with Apostates
Saying Something under Compulsion (Ikraah)
Tricks
Interpretation of Dreams
Afflictions and the End of the World
Judgments (Ahkaam)
Wishes
Accepting Information Given by a Truthful Person
Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah
ONENESS, UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH (TAWHEED)

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/

I mean to say, it's not as if the million and one hadith are not available on the Web...

[elcid1970]

BLOODY SAVAGES!!

[claptrap]

Sorry but I dont believe Islam and "society" could actually mix.
Society is a term which has been mangled by the Orwellian mindset of modern politicos.

[Fred Nerks]

Perhaps the hadith she was looking for is somewhere amongst this little lot:


Translation of Sahih Muslim
Translator: Abdul Hamid Siddiqui

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Please read our introduction to this collection (listed below by book number). You may also search for a particular hadith.

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The Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman)
The Book of Purification (Kitab Al-Taharah)
The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid)
The Book of Prayers (Kitab Al-Salat)
The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat)
The Book of Fasting (Kitab Al-Sawm)
The Book of Pilgrimage (Kitab Al-Hajj)
The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)
The Book of Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq)
The Book of Transactions (Kitab Al-Buyu`)
The Book Pertaining to the Rules of Inheritance (Kitab Al-Farai`d)
The Book of Gifts (Kitab Al-Hibat)
The Book of Bequests (Kitab Al-Wasiyya)
The Book of Vows (Kitab Al-Nadhr)
The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman)
The Book Pertaining to the Oath, for Establishing the Responsibility of Murders, Fighting, Requital and Blood-Wit (Kitab Al-Kitab Al-Qasama wa'l-Muharaba wa'l-Qisas wa'l-Diyat)
The Book Pertaining to Punishments Prescribed by Islam (Kitab Al-Hudud)
The Book Pertaining to Judicial Decisions (Kitab Al-Aqdiyya)
The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wa'l-Siyar)
The Book on Government (Kitab Al-Imara)
The Book of Games and the Animals which May be Slaughtered and the Aninals that Are to be Eaten (Kitab-us-Said wa'l-Dhaba'ih wa ma Yu'kalu min Al-Hayawan)
The Book of Sacrifices (Kitab Al-Adahi)
The Book of Drinks (Kitab Al-Ashriba)
The Book Pertaining to Clothes and Decoration (Kitab Al-Libas wa'l-Zinah)
The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
The Book on Salutations and Greetings (Kitab As-Salam)
The Book Concerning the Use of Correct Words (Kitab Al-Alfaz min Al-Adab wa Ghairiha)
The Book of Poetry (Kitab Al-Sh`ir)
The Book of Vision (Kitab Al-Ruya)
The Book Pertaining to the Excellent Qualities of the Holy Prophet (may Peace be upon them) and His Companions (Kitab Al-Fada'il)
The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions (Allah Be Pleased With Them) of the Holy Prophet (May Peace Be Upon Him) (Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah)
The Book of Virtue, Good Manners and Joining of the Ties of Relationship (Kitab Al-Birr was-Salat-I-wa'l-Adab)
The Book of Destiny (Kitab-ul-Qadr)
The Book of Knowledge (Kitab Al-`Ilm)
The Book Pertaining to the Remembrance of Allah, Supplication, Repentance and Seeking Forgiveness (Kitab Al-Dhikr)
The Book of Heart-Melting Traditions (Kitab Al-Riqaq)
The Book Pertaining to Repentance and Exhortation to Repentance (Kitab Al-Tauba)
Pertaining To The Charateristics Of The Hypocrites And Command Concerning Them (Kitab Sifat Al-Munafiqin Wa Ahkamihim)
The Book Giving Description of the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell (Kitab Sifat Al-Qiyamah wa'l Janna wa'n-Nar)
The Book Pertaining to Paradise, Its Description, Its Bounties and Its Intimates (Kitab Al-Jannat wa Sifat Na'imiha wa Ahliha)
The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa`ah)
The Book Pertaining to Piety and Softening of Hearts (Kitab Al-Zuhd wa Al-Raqa'iq)
The Book of Commentary (Kitab Al-Tafsir)

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|Who's counting? I read somewhere that there are 62 volumes of hadith...no wonder she's confused, and no wonder the imam says he must be consulted...thank goodness Al Gore invented the internet, LOL!

[Fred Nerks]

I like this one the best:

Volume 4, Book 53, Number 351:
Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Booty has been made legal for me."

[RS]

Wasn't that Kareem Abdul Jabar's quote ?

[Fred Nerks]

USC-MSA Compendium of Muslim Texts:


http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[Gondring]

Wasn't that Kareem Abdul Jabar's quote ?

Magic Johnson, maybe? ;-)

[Gondring]

But which says "You can learn half of the religion from her"?

[Fred Nerks]

But which says "You can learn half of the religion from her"?

Ask her, she said it. If there are 62 volumes of hadith you can bet on it, I'm not going to spend my precious time looking...are you?

Hey, ASK THE IMAM?

[Fred Nerks]

MSA-USC Hadith Database
Warning (especially for Muslims)
There are many early hadith scholars and teachers to whom we are indebted for introducing the critical science of collecting and evaluating ahadeeth. These teachers each collected many different ahadeeth. They did not allow students to quote from their collections until the students had actually come to them and learnt from them directly.

Today, the situation is different. The collections of ahadeeth have for the most part stabilized, and with the advent of the printing press, the collections are easily mass-produced. There is a blessing in all this of course, but there is a real danger that Muslims will fall under the impression that owning a book or having a database is equivalent to being a scholar of ahadeeth. This is a great fallacy. Therefore, we would like to warn you that this database is merely a tool, and not a substitute for learning, much less scholarship in Islam.

From the Link.

[RS]

Oh, I never doubted you for a minute Fred ... a good source you found.

But it does seem a very curious word to choose for the translations. You would suppose that if a follower of the religion did the translating they might have used "tribute" or even "tax".

[RS]

"There are many early hadith scholars and teachers to whom we are indebted for introducing the critical science of collecting and evaluating ahadeeth."

A most interesting point - If it were true, as many here seem to believe, that simply because it is written in some hadith all muslims believe it and follow it, then the "evaluating" would not be necessary.

[Fred Nerks]

Translations of the Qur'an, Chapter 8:
AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)
Total Verses: 75
Revealed At: MADINA
Maududi's introduction

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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

008.001
YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war. Say: "(such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger: So fear Allah, and keep straight the relations between yourselves: Obey Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe."
PICKTHAL: They ask thee (O Muhammad) of the spoils of war. Say: The spoils of war belong to Allah and the messenger, so keep your duty to Allah, and adjust the matter of your difference, and obey Allah and His messenger, if ye are (true) believers.
SHAKIR: They ask you about the windfalls. Say: The windfalls are for Allah and the Messenger. So be careful of (your duty to) Allah and set aright matters of your difference, and obey Allah and His Messenger if you are believers.

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SPOILS OF WAR=BOOTY?

[Fred Nerks]

The Arabs in Asia Minor (647)

In 647 Mu'awiya burst in Cappadocia, occupied Caesarea and arrived in Phrygia. Then he withdrew with a rich booty.

The Arabs attack Carthage (647)

In 647 the Arabs attacked the Exarchate of Carthage, they took a great booty and they returned in Egypt.

http://www.maat.it/livello2-i/mediterraneo-1-i.htm

[RS]

"SPOILS OF WAR=BOOTY? "

You seriously think those words are interchangeable ?

That the " spoils of war" as in the capture and use of an enemy transport ship is the same as piracy ?

[Fred Nerks]

"...If it were true, as many here seem to believe, that simply because it is written in some hadith all muslims believe it and follow it, then the "evaluating" would not be necessary."

But it's awfully convenient to follow when an imam needs to find a precedent...isn't it?

[RS]

Now you're really stretching it Fred ... who translated this from the original Italian ?

[Fred Nerks]

"...the critical science of collecting and evaluating ahadeeth..."

LOL!