Skip to comments.Iraqi Document: Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device (Translation)
Posted on 06/18/2006 7:08:27 PM PDT by jveritas
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Thanks for another great find and great translation.
No. Polonium-210 emits alpha particles during its radioactive decay, which interact with the Beryllium to produce neutrons. The neutrons can be used for several different purposes, not just in nuclear weapons.
If this was a Po-Be source and it was over ten years old, it would be virtually useless. Polonium-210 has a half-life of 140 days, and after five half-lives, any source of radioactivity is basically inert (it doesn't make sense that this would be a "P-Be" source, since "P" is the designation for Phosphorus).
You are welcome :)
What do you think about the Tantalum coated Graphite?
Why is the document saying that this device has "High Radioactive Activity"?
Now obviously, If Tony DID know something, he may not have wanted to discuss it for some strategic reason, I suppose.
Maybe they were mass producing AM antenna cores to get better reception during Rush Limbaugh.
Great job jveritas, you are what the Stone-age press used to call an Investigative Reporter. You are a true patriot.
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
In this case under discussion, I don't buy the comments about divulging secrets. The papers written in Arabic were released by the government a good while ago and now are being translated and analyzed by our good freeper, JVeritas. For crying out loud what's going on here and why?
To me, the Administration is secretive even when it doesn't have to be. Can't it ever play hardball, EVER? Can't it ever point out triumphantly to public records (such as the papers Veritas is working on) which, properly explained, can put it in a good light for a change?
It makes me sick that the White House has a consistent record of fading away and almost forcing conservative TV pundits, radio talk show hosts and private citizens like Veritas and freepers to do the heavy lifting in both offense and defense.
I don't get it at all.
(......actually, I DO get it, and I don't like the answer one bit).
To whom (what reporters) have you all written with pointers to where this information can be found?
Tantalum coated graphite isn't only used in uranium processing. It is used in any process where you don't want to diffuse graphite into some process you are working (molten metal or certain corrosive gases). Obviously it applies to uranium processing, but that isn't the only thing.
Additionally, people are getting too upset about the neutron source. It really isn't a big deal. It really isn't practical to make a powerful neutron flux outside of a nuclear reactor. These 'Highly Radioactive' neutron sources are no doubt trivial by comparison, and by physics. If I recall correctly it takes something like a hundred thousand alpha decays to yield ~50 neutrons (for an Am-Be neutron source). Not a particularly efficient process. Even the tiniest nuclear reactor would blow away the largest Am-Be source (or any other alpha-Be neutron source) by many many orders of magnitude.
"Los Alamos National Laboratory scientists have developed a tantalum carbide-graphite composite material ..."
If so, the Chinese also have it now...thanks to Presidential aspirant Richardson!
"How do you distribute your translations?"
Not to worry ...
These are commercially available devices, most commonly used to measure rock porosity. One of their common applications is in prospecting for oil fields. They have essentially zero military significance.
And I agree with a previous poster: the "tantalum coated graphite" is much more problematic.
Good work !
Indeed. But Jveritas keeps plugging along, showing just how pathetic most "journalists" really are.
One of the most interesting threads yet j. Thanks to all FReepers who made knowlegable contributions to the thread.
The mainstream media is too busy covering important issues like Brangelina's baby, Britney's pregnancy and Lindsay Lohan's partying to cover something as "trivial" as this. Gag.
Thank you very much for all your support.
Great work, jveritas and an important find.
Yesterday, Chris Wallace asked Tony Snow if he knew about the new information on WMD's in Iraq; Tony said he didn't.
I thought that was pretty interesting. Something may be percolating about this issue.
What are the other applications for the Tantalum Coated Graphite that Iraq was using it for? It definitely can be used for corrosive applications but as I said before and as you noticed from page 84 and 133 of the UN documents I posted this combination of Tantalum and Graphite was prohibited, period. The UN document was very clear on putting this under the Prohibited Nuclear Activity section. Also see my post # 22 regarding the hidden uranium enrichment activities and again you see both Tantalum and Graphite as part of these activities.
Iraqi Document: Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device (Translation)
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You are correct. A neutron generator is essential to the design of smaller nuclear (fission) bombs.
Jveritas, I think you need to start writing a book on the subject of WMD and Saddam.
It can work as a factual expose and a complete condemnation of the world's MSM.
What was that thing that a scientist had buried under his rose bed at his home again? (Iraq)
Found it. Have no idea if this is relevant in reference to the "neutron generator" or the Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device JV has translated.
I rather pull the stuff and let those that know decide.
Iraqi scientist buried nuke documents in garden
AN Iraqi scientist-turned-author says the most significant pieces of his country's dormant nuclear program were buried under a lotus tree in his backyard, untouched for more than a decade before the US-led invasion in 2003.
But their existence, Mahdi Obeidi writes in a new book, is evidence that the international community should remain vigilant as other countries try to replicate Iraq's successes before the 1991 Gulf war to develop components necessary for a nuclear weapon.
Yet Saddam kept his Iraq Atomic Energy Commission running, apparently without weapons programs, as late as 2003.
This is quite true. At a minimum, this document that you translated shows that the ISG work was shoddy and incomplete.
Ike, you may wish to be added to eyespysomething's ping list.
You are still doing awesome work. I hope one of those documents might pinpoint a location in the western desert.
A better link.
The confusion comes from CNN reported a gas centrifuge and NBC just reported documents.
I wish I could find the thread where we had the actual pictures posted.
Nuke component unearthed in Baghdad back yard
LIST OF ITEMS TO BE REPORTED TO IAEA
Items marked * and shaded are prohibited to Iraq under Resolution 687.
The notation (SC II) or (SC IV) indicates that items of the same type/category are also listed in one of the Annexes (2 or 4, respectively) of the UN Special Commission Plan.
12. Tantalum (SC IV)
Tantalum sheets with a thickness of 2.5 mm or greater from which a circle of 200 mm diameter can be obtained.
Many of the items listed in this section come into direct contact with uranium metal vapor or liquid or with process gas consisting of UF6 or a mixture of UF6 and other gases. All surfaces that come into contact with the uranium or UF6 are wholly made of, or protected by, corrosion-resistant materials. For the purposes of the section relating to laser-based enrichment items, the materials resistant to corrosion by vapor or liquid uranium metal or uranium alloys include yttria-coated graphite and tantalum; and the materials resistant to corrosion by UF6 include copper, stainless steel, aluminum, , aluminum alloys, nickel or alloys containing 60% or more nickel and UF6-resistant fully fluorinated hydrocarbon polymers.
Components for these assemblies are made of, or protected by, materials resistant to the heat and corrosion of uranium metal vapor or liquid (such as yttria-coated graphite or tantalum) and may include pipes, valves, fittings, 'gutters', feed-throughs, heat exchangers and collector plates for magnetic, electrostatic (or other) separation methods.
The crucibles and other parts of this system that come into contact with molten uranium or uranium alloys are made of, or protected by, materials of suitable corrosion and heat resistance. Suitable materials include tantalum, yttria-coated graphite, graphite coated with other rare earth oxides or mixtures thereof.
29.5. *Uranium metal 'product' and 'tails' collector assemblies
Specially designed or prepared product and 'tails' collector assemblies for uranium metal in solid form. These collector assemblies are made of, or protected by, materials resistant to the heat and corrosion of uranium metal vapor, such as yttria-coated graphite or tantalum.
Great job. Nice translation.
What's this "God" stuff? Doesn't that say "Allah" in the original?
Iraq's Bomb an Update
By Diana Edensword and Gary Milhollin
New York Times
April 26, 1993, p. A17
Soon, possibly this week, the U.N. will report that its inspectors in Iraq have found yet another cache of strategic equipment for making nuclear weapons. Their chief inspector at the International Atomic Energy Agency, Maurizio Zifferero, should be embarrassed. He announced in September that President Saddam Hussein's atomic weapons program was "neutralized" and "at zero." He even said that Iraq had "decided at the higher political level to stop these activities."
Saddam Hussein never told the I.A.E.A. about the newly discovered equipment, as required by UN resolutions. And he continues to rain down threats and intimidation on the inspectors, indicating that he has more to hide. In March 1992, Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister, Tariq Aziz, told inspectors that Iraq had not relinquished the right to build weapons of mass destruction.
Before his army marched into Kuwait in August 1990, Saddam Hussein had a workable bomb design, many key components, a multi-billion dollar nuclear manufacturing base and a global supply network able to exploit lax Western export controls, especially those in Germany. His Western-trained scientists had produced small amounts of plutonium and enriched uranium: the fuels in the bombs that destroyed Nagasaki and Hiroshima. They even did clandestine research in laboratories the I.A.E.A. inspected regularly.
If Saddam Hussein had left Kuwait alone, he might have had his first bomb by now. He still has his scientists on the payroll and has protected the identities of many of his global suppliers. He has even started to get European and American inquiries on future oil sales: petro-dollars for a renewed bomb effort.
Here is a summary of nuclear-related equipment in Iraq today. It draws on export records and reports by inspection teams. The names of manufacturers, who may not have supplied their products directly to Iraq, are given where known. Iraq claimed the equipment was for civilian use The U.S. Government wants most of the material destroyed; the IAEA may let Iraq use it under the agency's monitoring. It was just such "monitoring," however, that failed to detect Iraq's bomb program in the first place.
Found but Not Destroyed or Removed
These items have been tagged for possible destruction, monitoring by the I.A.E.A. or unconditional release to Iraq.
580 tons of natural uranium (Brazil, Niger and Portugal).
1.7 tons of enriched uranium (Italy).
255 tons of HMX, a high explosive for detonating atomic bombs.
60 machines that shape metal into centrifuge parts, by Dorries, H&H Metalform, Kieserling & Albrecht, Leifeld and Magdeburg (Germany), Matrix Churchill (Britain) and Schaublin (Switzerland).
Mass spectrometers to monitor bomb-fuel production, by Finnegan-MAT (US, Germany).
Two electric frequency converters to power atomic bomb fuel production, by Acomel (Switzerland).
More than 700 valves that can process atomic bomb fuel, by Balzers, VAT (Switzerland) and Nupro (US).
Two coordinate-measuring machines to monitor centrifuge production, by DEA (Italy).
70 mixer-settler units to extract plutonium, some by Metallextraktion AB (Sweden).
Machines for milling metal, by Maho, Schiess, SHW and Wotan (Germany), Innocenti (Italy) and Zayer (Spain).
Two assembly presses and two balancing machines to make centrifuges.
One resin-mixing and discharge machine to support electromagnetic uranium enrichment, by Millitorr (Britain).
One jet-molding machine to make centrifuge motors, by Arburg (Germany).
One 63-ton hydraulic press to shape explosive atomic bomb parts.
One mainframe computer used to process nuclear atomic bomb codes, by NEC (Japan).
Two oxidation furnaces for making centrifuge parts, by Degussa (Germany).
One electron-beam welder to assemble centrifuges, by Sciaky (France).
Tantalum metal sheets for making crucibles to cast atomic bomb cores.
These items are suspected or known to be in Iraq, but have not been found or accounted for:
More than $1 million worth of computers, electronic testing machines, computer graphics equipment and frequency synthesizers licensed for shipping to atomic bomb builders, by Hewlett Packard (US).
More than $7 million worth of computers, licensed for shipping to atomic bomb builders, by International Computer Systems (US).
Nuclear reactor control panels, instruments and computers salvaged from a damaged reactor, by the consortium Cerbag (France).
Computers and instruments capable of analyzing metals and powders for atomic bomb manufacture, licensed for shipping to an atomic bomb builder by Siemens (Germany, US).
$43,000 worth of computers for a nuclear weapon testing site, licensed for shipping by EZ Logic Data (US).
$30,000 worth of electronic and computing equipment lo measure neutrons and gamma rays, licensed for shipping by Canberra Industries and Canberra Elektronik (US, Germany).
Five frequency converters capable of powering centrifuges, by Acomel (Switzerland).
Parts that collected enriched uranium in electromagnetic enrichment machines.
One jet-molding machine to make centrifuge motors, by Arburg (Germany).
One powder press suitable for compacting nuclear fuels, by XYZ Options (US).
$15 million worth of cylindrical presses, by Leifeld (Germany).
$2.2 million worth of computers, licensed to be shipped to an atomic bomb builder by Unisys (US).
$280,000 worth of computers and electronic and photographic equipment for nuclear weapons laboratories, licensed to be shipped by Perkin Elmer (US).
$367,000 worth of computers licensed for shipping to an atomic bomb builder to run its machine tools, by Gerber Systems (US).
Design plans for a $5.6 million plant to process uranium, by Natron (Brazil).
More than 100 mixer-settler units to extract plutonium, by Metallextraktion AB (Sweden).
Centrifuge cascade to enrich uranium.
Underground reactor and heavy water to produce plutonium.
Records of Iraq's foreign sources of expertise on uranium enrichment, foreign equipment suppliers and explosive tests of atomic bomb components.
Records containing identities and current activities of Iraqi nuclear personnel, including those trained by H&H Metalform, Interatom, Leybold, Lurgi and ZSI (Germany), Balzers (Switzerland), Chemadex (Poland), CNEN (Brazil) and Matrix Churchill (Britain).
Computer database showing status and extent of the entire nuclear weapon program.
Good Job jveritas.
where's Hanz Blix?
The administration have decided not to open this subject again until if our troops physically find a large quantity of hidden WMD or Precursors for WMD.
The Iraq Survey Group (ISG) ended their mission very early and prematurely concluded that there was no WMD or program related to WMD in Iraq.
From the ISG report, they decided to search 20 of the most suspect ammunition depots where potential Chemical Weapons can be found, remind you that there are hundreds if not thousands of ammunition depots in Iraq. Now from those 20 ammunitions depots they only search 2 in details, just TWO!!!. Of course I do not even think that Saddam regime will put their WMD in ammunition depots because those are the most suspect sites and because it can be bombed but they have rather buried it in the Western Desert or somewhere else in Iraq. I do not think there was any attempt by ISG to look at potential burial sites. Moreover the total number of ammunition examined is less than 0.25% of Iraq ammunition that can carry WMD ( i.e. 122 mm, 155 mm, etc caliber shells).
I think the ISG have made a lot of conclusions from the Iraqis scientists they have interviewed and other officials who work for Iraq Military Industrial Commission (MIC) and Iraq Atomic Energy Commission. The ISG bought what these people told them that there were no WMD or program related to WMD. This is a big mistake on the part of the ISG. First these scientists and officials will not say that there were WMD or programs even if they know about it because they were afraid to be imprisoned by the US forces or even worse they were afraid to be killed by the Baathists even if Saddam is not anymore in power. The ISG and many American officials still do not understand how much fear and horror Saddam has installed in the Iraqi people that the vast majority of population are still afraid of the Baathists till now. Second I think that these scientists may have worked on portions of the WMD program without knowing what are the final results of their works, it is like a Manhattan style project (US first atomic bomb) where the vast majority of workers and scientists did not know what their individuals works were used for.
Very few people in Iraq knew about the WMD and WMD projects, Saddam is one of them. Most of Saddam cabinet did not know about it, including the vast majority of high detainees we have in custody. For political reason we cannot force Saddam or few other high level detainees to tell us anything significant about the WMD or its programs. Moreover there are two very important high level detainees that are still at large and they can very much know about the WMD. There are the Director of the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and the Director of the Special Security Organization (SSO). The SSO was in charge of handling, maintaining, and hiding all the WMD and delivering it to the troops in the battlefields. Qusay Saddam Hussein was the Chief of the SSO for a period of time but he was killed before we capture him and I was not sure that if had captured him we would have forced him to speak. Where on the other hand the Director of SSO and IIS can be forced to speak not necessarily us but by the current Iraqi government. Capturing these two guys is very important to know about the WMD.
Are you giving all of these a keyword (for searching) of PREWARDOCS? Is there some other keyword in addition to this?
Thanks so much.
This may be a good idea my fellow freeper :)
So far we are using PrewarDocs for these documents, but please feel free to add any keyword you want. For example this can be also put under WMD keyword.
Thanks for the info. This will help me to look for these missing items when reading the documents.
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