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Iraqi Document: Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website for Iraq Pre-war documents ^ | June 18 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 06/18/2006 7:08:27 PM PDT by jveritas

Document CMPC-2003-000537 is a secret and personal memo written in November 1999 by the director of the Iraqi National Monitoring Department (NMD) and addressed to the Minister of the Iraqi Military Industrialization Commission (MIC). The memo talks about a Neutron Source Device with High Radioactive Activity that was found in one Iraqi University and the NMD is asking that it should be returned to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization. The Neutron Source Device can be also called Neutron Generator or Neutron Initiator. This Neutron Generator device was not declared to the UN inspectors all the time they were in Iraq from 1991 to late 1998 when they were kicked out of Iraq. In fact Neutron generators were prohibited to be used by the Iraqis according to this UN document ( http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf page 133 of this UN document pdf, an * next to an item means it is porhibited).

Beginning of the Translation of page 1 and 2 of document CMPC-2003-000537

In the Name of God the Most Compassionate The Most Merciful

The Republic of Iraq

The Presidency of the Republic

The Military Industrialization Commission

The National Monitoring Department

Number 12/M/3/94

Date 18/11/1999

Secret and Personal

The Respected Minister of Military Industrialization

Subject: Neutron Source

The University of Al Mustansirya/Science Faculty informed us in its letter No. 2369 on 24/10/1999 of the existence of a Neutron Source (Am-Be) in one of its laboratories and was previously brought by Dr. Midhat Al Zubaidi one of the ex-researchers (currently retired) of Firnas Center and we did the following:

1. Send a team from the department to investigate this Source where it was revealed it a Source (P-Be) with a high radiation activity (Aciory) brought in the year 1996.

2. A meeting was held in our department on Sunday 14/11/1999 with all the people concerned from the Atomic Energy Agency and the Firnas company and the Science Faculty/Al Mustansirya University and the following was revealed:

A. The Atomic Energy Organization clarified that this Source was not documented in their archives because it was previously shrouded by secrecy and it was delivered to Dr. Midhat Al Zubaidi at the end of year 1989.

B. Dr. Midhat clarified that he received the Source from the Organization in 1993 during the period where the equipment from the previous program were returned to the Al Tuwaitha site and he transferred to the Engineering Faculty/Baghdad University and then it was returned to its current location in Al Mustansirya University in the year 1996.

3. Dr. Khaled Ibrahim Said clarified that it is possible that this Source can be used by the Fourth Group where Dr. Midhat Al Zubaidi was one of its members in the year 1989 and for the purpose of doing some experimentations.

4. Information about this Source was previously requested by the Agency because it was imported to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization under the name of Al Basra University. And the Organization sent a team to Al Basra University to investigate or try to find it without any results.

In light of these infractions we suggest the return of the Source to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization and including and declaring it among the Radioactive Sources that it possesses.

With regards… Sir

General Engineer

Hussam Ahmad Amin

18/11/1999

End of the Translation.

I also found in my reading of document ISGQ-2003-00000813.pdf which is a 2002 document that the Iraqi were working to produce TANTALUM COATED GRAPHITE as part of research activities for the year 2002. This very special coating of Graphite with Tantalum to create a highly corrosion resistant surface for graphite. The document by itself does not say what is the use for this but for sure one of the few applications is that this Tantalum coated graphite can be used with the highly corrosive UF6 or Uranium Hexafluoride which is the basic component for ENRICHED URANIUM. In fact A Tantalum coated Graphite was totally prohibited for use in Iraq since it falls under the prohibited nuclear activities per this UN document ( http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf pages 84 and 133 of this UN document pdf, an * next to an item means it is prohibited).


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To: BenLurkin

Yep, and that is about as deep as I want to get into it. Tritium does basically the same thing. The goal is to get the most yield out of the smallest amount of nuclear material.


41 posted on 06/18/2006 8:00:02 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: RandyRep
Thanks Randy.

I first post my work right here on FR and all the translations that I have done so far are on my FR profile page http://www.freerepublic.com/~jveritas/.

Also I do have a blog where all my translations are posted http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/.

42 posted on 06/18/2006 8:04:02 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Los Alamos National Laboratory scientists have developed a tantalum carbide-graphite composite material that is one of the hardest materials ever synthesized. Perhaps it was a materials application...

Tantalum is occasionally use is very temperature environments
Light bulbs used to use tantalum filaments before tungsten became
generally used
43 posted on 06/18/2006 8:10:52 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
Why do the Iraqi needs it? As I said this was absoltely prohibited for the Iraqis to have according to the UN document. Please see page 133 and 84 of this http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/S-2002-515.pdf an * next to an item means it is prohibited. According to the document this material are used to resist the highly corrosive UF6.
44 posted on 06/18/2006 8:14:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Do you have a ping list? I'd like to be on it if you do.


45 posted on 06/18/2006 8:16:38 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: jveritas
Don't know why they would need a P-Be neutron generator

They are usually used in neutron research as a pulse mode
neutron generator with selectable output neutron energies

They have been studied as a radiotherapy neutron source in cancer research,
materials research in studying N,P reactions and
neutron adsorption activation studies in
concrete and other structural materials..

Tantalum is generally resistant to neutron activation degradation
in usually encountered neutron fields, I think
46 posted on 06/18/2006 8:33:32 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: patriciaruth; eyespysomething

Freeper eyespysomething is the main organizer of the Iraq documents and its ping list, she will be glad to put you on the list.


47 posted on 06/18/2006 8:36:41 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

ever hear of the radioactive boy scout?


48 posted on 06/18/2006 8:39:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (``)
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To: jveritas

Tantalum has been studied as an alternate target for
proton beam breeding of neutrons


49 posted on 06/18/2006 8:39:35 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
Thanks for the information. I think it is worth that someone in the specialized government agencies investigate this. I believe that the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) had ended their mission much earlier than they should and made premature conclusion that Iraq had no WMD or programs related to WMD.
50 posted on 06/18/2006 8:44:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: HangnJudge
I read your profile page and it is very impressive. Thank you for sharing your nuclear expertise with us.
51 posted on 06/18/2006 8:46:34 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Who? :)


52 posted on 06/18/2006 8:47:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Thanks for another great find and great translation.


53 posted on 06/18/2006 8:50:33 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: HangnJudge
Doesn't a P-BE neutron generator require a proton beam source in the 20 mev + range to generate a neutron flux?

No. Polonium-210 emits alpha particles during its radioactive decay, which interact with the Beryllium to produce neutrons. The neutrons can be used for several different purposes, not just in nuclear weapons.

If this was a Po-Be source and it was over ten years old, it would be virtually useless. Polonium-210 has a half-life of 140 days, and after five half-lives, any source of radioactivity is basically inert (it doesn't make sense that this would be a "P-Be" source, since "P" is the designation for Phosphorus).

54 posted on 06/18/2006 8:51:34 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: FairOpinion

You are welcome :)


55 posted on 06/18/2006 8:56:18 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Tarantulas

What do you think about the Tantalum coated Graphite?


56 posted on 06/18/2006 8:58:28 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Tarantulas
You are right it should be Po-Be not P-Be. The document is slightly illegible, and hence P is indeed Po.
57 posted on 06/18/2006 9:01:14 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Jewels1091
And the national media does what???? Reveals the possibility of a CIA mole in al Qaeda of course.
58 posted on 06/18/2006 9:02:25 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Tarantulas

Why is the document saying that this device has "High Radioactive Activity"?


59 posted on 06/18/2006 9:03:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Did you catch Tony Snow with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday? Chris asked Tony if the reports Chris has been getting about WMD's in Iraq's records is becoming relevant, or not. Tony just slid right over it and didn't lend any credence to it in any way, shape or form.

Now obviously, If Tony DID know something, he may not have wanted to discuss it for some strategic reason, I suppose.

60 posted on 06/18/2006 9:12:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (California is MEXIFORNIA , MANANA!!! The European settlers suffer from GANG-GREEN, TODAY!!!)
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