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Jacob Concedes [referendum on immigration issue], Cannon Moves on to General Election
KSL TV ^ | 27 June 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 10:32:40 PM PDT by Spiff

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To: spectre
Thanks for posting that outsider perspective of Utah culture.

Unlike Souther California, from what I gather most voters in Utah do not feel that their distinct Utah culture is threaten by illegal immigration.

181 posted on 06/28/2006 6:55:45 AM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: dennisw

Mormon aren't the only ones being soft on pro-border security.

I attend an Evangelical church that welcomed representatives of the Mexican Consulate one Sunday morning. They were informing Hispanics in my church on ways to make American life easier for them.


182 posted on 06/28/2006 6:57:36 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: California Patriot

Your elitism is showing very clearly.


183 posted on 06/28/2006 6:58:12 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Dane

Something is rotten in Denmark. Or at least the one you live in


184 posted on 06/28/2006 6:58:18 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: AmishDude; CWOJackson; Texasforever

Now the bitter tancredoites are spitting their venom at the Mormon's.


185 posted on 06/28/2006 6:59:25 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Whew colorcountry, the bitter tancredoites are really building bridges to the Mormons.

And you posted this to me? Why?

I could care less about Cannon's religion or Jacob's for that matter. I simply mentioned that both candidates were members of the same religion as a way to point out that religion played no part in this contest.

My support for Jacob was not based upon the "tancredoites" as you call them. I supported Jacob when Buchanan/Tancredo still supported Merril Cook in this race. I thought Jacob was a better candidate so don't put your emotional baggage on me.

186 posted on 06/28/2006 6:59:30 AM PDT by colorcountry ( Run with scissors???? I can barely jog my memory)
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To: Dane
You can spin it any way you want, but Jacob received 44% of hte vote in a conservative district against a five term Rep with a 100% ACU rating. Cannon spent $815,687 against Jacob's $383,860. Cannon had the endorsement of POTUS. Cannon voted for the House bill. The race should never have been that close against a no-name opponent.

I for one could not understand why Cannon was even being challenged. That said, immigration is an issue that can be used for the GOP in the mid-terms. The House listening tour will confirm that.

If you go to Cannon's website, you will notice the prominent banner scrolling across the page, "Stop illegal immigration." Cannon was forced to demonstrate that he is a hardliner, enforcement first supporter on illegal immigration and secure borders. He obviously felt that his stance on immigration was a key factor in the primary. He didn't come out and support the Senate bill or the President's comprehensive reform approach.

187 posted on 06/28/2006 7:00:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: colorcountry
And you posted this to me? Why?

I could care less about Cannon's religion or Jacob's for that matter. I simply mentioned that both candidates were members of the same religion as a way to point out that religion played no part in this contest.

Uh because you live in Utah and just pointing out the venom that the bitter tancredoites are now spewing.

"It's the Mormon's fault" is the new tancredo battlecry(insult).

188 posted on 06/28/2006 7:03:09 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Spiff
Excellent news. The good guy won.

Bay Buchanan's demonizing of a good conservative did not work. The voters saw through the unfairness of Buchanan's cheap tricks.

Now Jacob can concentrate in fighting his demons or devils

189 posted on 06/28/2006 7:04:51 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Dane
Your strawman won, Dane.

But the administration's shamnesty open-borders policies got gutted like a fish.

In short, you lost. And you will continue to lose.

190 posted on 06/28/2006 7:05:15 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
In short, you lost. And you will continue to lose

LOL! Whatever,

191 posted on 06/28/2006 7:09:18 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

Okay, you do realise I'm a MINO (Mormon in name only.)

They don't claim me, and I left them behind years ago, but my name is still on there rolls since I was born into it.

There are a lot of us here in Utah. We go by the names Jack-Mormon, Ex-Mormon, Anti-Mormon and Born-Again Mormon. It shouldn't make any difference to you however, as long as "conservative" is included in that title.


192 posted on 06/28/2006 7:10:06 AM PDT by colorcountry ( Run with scissors???? I can barely jog my memory)
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To: george wythe
The "good guy" got publicly humiliated twice for arrogantly forgetting that he represents the United States, not Mexico, in Congress.

The "good guy" soiled his pants wondering if his political career would survive last night.

The "good guy" knows he faces new opposition from steadfast party regulars beginning this morning.

If the "good guy" doesn't repudiate his pro-shamnesty positions he will be cleanly defeated at the 2008 Utah State Republican Convention, with no help from Bay Buchanan.

193 posted on 06/28/2006 7:12:55 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Spiff

This could all get very interesting.

If the lefty candidate Obrador wins the election in Mexico, then there will be no more friendly Fox/Bush link across the Rio Grande.

The American population will turn hard against that kind of "threat," and Congressional candidates won't be able to throw money at a border fence fast enough.

Interesting summer!


194 posted on 06/28/2006 7:15:21 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JCEccles
The "good guy" soiled his pants wondering if his political career would survive last night

JMO, it ain't Chris Cannon who is soiling his pants.

LOL! You are really defacating bricks over this, JC.

To bad those bricks aren't made of gold, you'd be a very rich man.

195 posted on 06/28/2006 7:16:00 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Totally missing the point, Dane. No one in, say, Ohio where I am was even DISCUSSING illegals two years ago.

And for you to think that a VERY conservative candidate who is wrong on this particular issue, and who had a serious primary challenge, is evidence there isn't a "problem" with being pro-illegal, then I have a bridge to sell you.

Bilbray, who was a total RINO in all other things, won SOLELY on illegals. It's a huge, huge issue, and all your wishing won't wish it away.

196 posted on 06/28/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by LS
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To: JCEccles
Sorry to hear that your Buchanan-supported guy lost. Voters rejected the unfair attacks against the good guy, Cannon.

Eventually you will get over it.

197 posted on 06/28/2006 7:19:36 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Dane

Typical of the name calling. Doesn't change a thing. It's a monster issue, and if it hasn't reached critical mass yet, it will, very very soon.


198 posted on 06/28/2006 7:19:42 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS
Typical of the name calling. Doesn't change a thing. It's a monster issue, and if it hasn't reached critical mass yet, it will, very very soon

If it can't reach critical mass in one the most conservative districts in the US, I doubt it will elesewhere.

But what the hey I'm not a professor on such things. All I have to go on is voting results from a race that had immigration as it's focal point and the voters in that district gave it a big old yawn.

199 posted on 06/28/2006 7:22:43 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
While you're at it, Dane, check this out---sounds to me like TT is having a serious impact where it counts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657043/posts#comment?q=1

I'll take a senate victory over a temporary House primary defeat any day of the week.

200 posted on 06/28/2006 7:22:56 AM PDT by LS
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