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Baby found dead in vehicle. Mother apparently forgot to drop off baby at day care.
grandfolksherald.com ^ | Thu, Jun. 29, 2006 | Lisa Gibson

Posted on 06/29/2006 1:07:30 PM PDT by rawhide

A 5-month-old baby died in a minivan Wednesday after the mother apparently forgot to drop the child off at day care.

The tragedy was discovered about 5:30 p.m. outside the Wonder Years 2 day care. The baby's mother stopped at the day care after work to pick up the child and was told by staff that the baby had not been dropped off. She realized then that the baby had been in her minivan all day.

"The mother had forgotten to drop off the child at day care in the morning," said Curt Kreun, owner of Wonder Years 2. "She actually came in the building to pick up the child and then realized what had happened."

The child was in a car seat in the back of the vehicle, according to Sgt. Jeff Burgess of the Grand Forks Police Department. A Wonder Years 2 staff member made the 911 call, according to Kreun.

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Staff members had taken the baby out of the van and started CPR before the ambulance arrived. Kreun said he reached the scene about 6 p.m. and emergency personnel already had gotten the word from Altru to cease resuscitation.

"The child had probably passed away a while before she got to the day care," Kreun said.

Kreun, who has been in the child care business for years, said near-tragedies happen all too often.

"I know people who have gotten to work and realized they forgot to drop off their kids and had to go back."

Kreun said it would have been impossible for passersby to see the baby in the van, which had tinted windows.

"I walked around that van about 14 times after they left, and you would not have been able to see in there," he said.

1 posted on 06/29/2006 1:07:32 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?
2 posted on 06/29/2006 1:09:11 PM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: rawhide

I just don't understand this - How do you buckle her in and forget she's there on the way to work?


3 posted on 06/29/2006 1:10:16 PM PDT by justche (Let me make something perfectly clear. I never explain myself - Mary Poppins)
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To: rawhide

a retard.. complete retard.


4 posted on 06/29/2006 1:10:59 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: rawhide

I have never understood these kind of stories. I do not have children, but just do not see how it is possible to "forget" your child in a car for hours.


5 posted on 06/29/2006 1:11:17 PM PDT by AUJenn
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To: beeler
What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?

I see nothing wrong with day care. What I find upsetting is how how a mother "forgets" about a baby in the car. Funny how this always happens in the summer.

6 posted on 06/29/2006 1:11:18 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: rawhide

Also here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657801/posts


7 posted on 06/29/2006 1:12:28 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rawhide

Idea - proximity alert. Baby seat with sensors. If baby is in the baby seat, and no adults are in the car - baby seat will start beeping. After a few minutes, the baby seat will then page or send a text message to the parent. Failing that, the baby seat will then interface with the vehicle's alarm system and start blinking the lights and periodically honking the horn.

Or when the car is turned off, if the baby seat is occupied, it will beep immediately. Lots of possibilities for interfacing baby seat sensors and the vehicle for the purpose of alerting the adults.


8 posted on 06/29/2006 1:12:38 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: justche

Who knows? Up all night with a crying baby? Post-partum? Just a ditz? Brand new routine dropping the baby off at day care and it slipped her mind?

Or something more sinister and nefarious?


9 posted on 06/29/2006 1:12:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: rawhide

you're rushing to work...half asleep...u place your baby in the car seat in the back...you're still half asleep, and the child is asleep...you're in a rush, someone calls your cell, blah blah blah...u forget to go to the day care...baby is still asleep in the back...you're still asleep but in a rush...you get to work, get preoccupied, the day goes by...you think you dropped your child off at day care that morning (because that's routine)...but you didnt...realize it when you get to the daycare, and then find your child dead in the back of the car...stupid, stupid, tradgedy...but not implausible...


10 posted on 06/29/2006 1:13:12 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Probably they just don't die in the other seasons.


11 posted on 06/29/2006 1:13:40 PM PDT by psychoknk
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To: beeler
What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?

Good point!

12 posted on 06/29/2006 1:13:51 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: beeler

A woman way too busy to take care of it.


13 posted on 06/29/2006 1:13:52 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Lunatic Fringe

"Monster" is unkind and inappropriate. If this was an accident, the woman is probably already suffering enough from her own guilty conscience. If, on the other hand, this was pre-meditated, then "sick" is a more apt description.


14 posted on 06/29/2006 1:14:13 PM PDT by Torpedogirl
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To: Lunatic Fringe
This almost never happened before it was "decided" that having kids in the front seat, rear facing, was verboten.

Not an excuse for anyone who "forgets", but rather another example of why more law/regulation is generally NOT better, and why the bureaucrats need to stop doing good to us.
15 posted on 06/29/2006 1:14:44 PM PDT by 2Hot4You (Don't Be The Bunny)
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To: beeler

She is not a monster for enrolling a 5 month old in day care. Some people do not have the affluence to take months off of work to care for a small one. Accidents and tragedies happen. Please have a little sympathy for this mother.


16 posted on 06/29/2006 1:14:44 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: beeler
I am in the same boat as you, no children, however, I just cannot understand how someone drops off their helpless 5 month old to strangers.

All I know is that I would NEVER leave my dog with a stranger nor would I ever forget that my dog was in the car.

17 posted on 06/29/2006 1:14:47 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I agree, this is really not all that implausible.


18 posted on 06/29/2006 1:14:54 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: beeler

Beeler, Before I got married and became a stay at home mom I had to work part time as a single mother and put my son in a home day care. It wasn't what I wanted at the time, but I don't consider myself to have been a monster.

The monster is the mother who obviously has to much on her plate to think about her kids or them being a priority to her that she leaves them to die a horrible death in the car all day.


19 posted on 06/29/2006 1:15:55 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: beeler

A woman who has to work for a living? Not everyone can afford to be a stay at home mom.


20 posted on 06/29/2006 1:16:21 PM PDT by elc
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To: beeler
What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?

A monster like me, I guess. My 3-month old goes to a day care once a week, and will go three times weekly this fall.

21 posted on 06/29/2006 1:17:16 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: coconutt2000

you know, this isn't a bad idea which is sad seeing we may need it since there seem to be some serious neglectful parents out there.


22 posted on 06/29/2006 1:17:18 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: coconutt2000

Yes. These are good ideas.


23 posted on 06/29/2006 1:17:45 PM PDT by jwalburg (Paul Ehrlich, call your office! STAT!)
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To: AUJenn
I have never understood these kind of stories. I do not have children, but just do not see how it is possible to "forget" your child in a car for hours.

It's because the Nanny State now requires kids to be in the back seat. That's why you never used to hear these stories.

24 posted on 06/29/2006 1:17:56 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
'Worst nightmare' Children forgotten in back seats more common in age of airbags By Kyle Johnson Herald Staff Writer

... This number has skyrocketed since the early 1990s due to the prevalence of airbags. For safety reasons, child seats are increasingly placed in the back seat of the car, making it easier for the parents to forget their child....

25 posted on 06/29/2006 1:18:29 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: coconutt2000
You may be onto something...the driver's "seat belt buckled/unbuckled" sensor could be left on with the ignition off, that is, if it was weight rather than electric-thru-the-seat-belt-coupling...arguably having some value as a stolen vehicle alert system....which could send a signal to the driver's cel phone. Of course, then we'd be talking about someone who remembered their cel phone but forgot their child in the car. Sheesh.
26 posted on 06/29/2006 1:18:35 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Funny taglines are value plays.)
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To: elc
Not everyone can afford to be a stay at home mom.

Then how about not having children until you can afford to do that, at least until they are in school? What about thinking of the child first? Plus, we don't know that she couldn't afford it, many women work because they want the new car, vacations, bigger house, etc...

27 posted on 06/29/2006 1:18:52 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Funny how this always happens in the summer.

Or is it that you only hear about it in the summer when the end results are tragic?

28 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:07 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: beeler

"What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?"

One whose husband left her and her child and has to eat?


29 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:11 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: coconutt2000

Good thinking. I was just grieving over one more precious baby left to die alone in an oven, thinking COME ON! WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM PEOPLE. I for one am sick about how many children die every summer from stupid, inept, stressed out, drugged out, OR WHATEVER, parents.


30 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:13 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (I snarl, therefore I am)
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To: rawhide

"I FORGOT"don't cut it!This sounds intentional to me and the mother is playing out a plan to try and get away with something.


31 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:27 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: AUJenn
but just do not see how it is possible to "forget" your child in a car for hours
Nor do I. Sadly I believe she will be realizing in the days, weeks, years to come, that job wasnt all that important.
32 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:27 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: rawhide

I just don't get it.


33 posted on 06/29/2006 1:19:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Halls

A clip on or velcro sensor pack would probably do the trick for a simple device.


34 posted on 06/29/2006 1:20:04 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: AUJenn

I forgot my laptop in my car for about 30 minutes once. I got home and went in to play on my computers because I had just bought a new toy and about 30 minutes later I remembered and freaked out and ran to the car. Luckily my laptop was not injured.

btw, I live in deep south east texas, the heat here is horrid.


35 posted on 06/29/2006 1:20:11 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: rawhide

Serious question: how many people here could have ever forgotten you had a child in the car with you? No matter how old or where they were sitting?


36 posted on 06/29/2006 1:21:11 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Gringos Unite!!!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

I'm not a mother, but when my children were young not an hour would go by without me thinking of them no matter how busy I was.

I can't understand this heartless neglect.


37 posted on 06/29/2006 1:21:30 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: yellowdoghunter

Nice thought, but it's too late for these folks.

Kids happen.


38 posted on 06/29/2006 1:21:35 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (I snarl, therefore I am)
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To: rawhide
There are no arrests being made tonight," said Burgess. "I can tell you that."

Shaking head.....and why not? She probably didn't forget her purse, her cell phone, etc. How in the world could anyone forget their child in the car?
39 posted on 06/29/2006 1:22:07 PM PDT by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: beeler

"What kind of monster would enroll a 5-month old in day care?"

How about someone who has to put food on the table, clothes on the children and a roof over their heads? Not everyone can afford to stay home or hire a nanny.


40 posted on 06/29/2006 1:22:11 PM PDT by ebersole
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so anybody who has their child at day care is a monster-

Who do you people think you are!


done with freerepublic, unfortunately-I'm tired of the constant judgement by people here. Not every body makes a million bucks


41 posted on 06/29/2006 1:23:04 PM PDT by ground_fog
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To: coconutt2000

There might actually be something to this. It is a tragic situation. It seems to be easy for us to be judgmental on these things, but since it seems to happen with some regularity to people who are otherwise "normal, good parents", there is clearly a need for solutions. Thank you for thinking in terms of solutions.


42 posted on 06/29/2006 1:23:05 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: AmericaUnited

Then we need to get rid of the airbags to prevent babies from dying.

That's not a good answer, but doing nothing is inexcusable.


43 posted on 06/29/2006 1:23:12 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (I snarl, therefore I am)
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To: yellowdoghunter
I am in the same boat as you, no children, however, I just cannot understand how someone drops off their helpless 5 month old to strangers.

Thank your lucky stars you are not a parent in a society that now requires two incomes to keep heads above the water - and/or that you are not doing two full-time jobs at once (job outside the home and job of parent in the home) that can leave you stressed, frazzled, rushing and prone to make mistakes - even tragic ones.

The old Cheyenne prayer comes to mind; "Great Spirit, help me not to judge another until I have walked in their moccasins many moons."

44 posted on 06/29/2006 1:23:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: coconutt2000

"send a text message to the parent."

and the message begins - "Hey dipsh*t,..."

Not a bad idea though - the seats could have plugs that could plug in to the car's electrical chasis, just like the newer clips they now have installed in the crevice of the cars backseats.

I've had it the other way around were after I handed off the younger one to my wife, or another family member - I'd be a few miles down the road and get that striking fear that he was forgotten even though everything was completely in order. I just figured that was the undercurrent of my consciousness working correctly.


45 posted on 06/29/2006 1:24:16 PM PDT by Sax
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nor would I ever forget that my dog was in the car.

It must be comforting to know one is infallible

46 posted on 06/29/2006 1:24:58 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: rawhide

I consider this to be more the fault of government mandating child car seats and that they be placed in the rear seats of the vehicle. It is very easy to forget a silent, sleeping child in the back seat of a car, especially when you are gearing up to face the stress of the coming work day.

Add to that the feminaziation of our society that would make this woman feel she needed to work anyway. Then the overtaxation that almost requires double incomes.

Yes, this individual woman carries a lot of responsibility, but in the interest of protecting children our government has set up children to become victims!


47 posted on 06/29/2006 1:24:59 PM PDT by CSM ("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
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To: yellowdoghunter

If we waited until we could afford to live on 1 income for 6 years (that's if we only have 1 child) we'd never have kids.

We can afford to have a child. We just can't afford not to work and have a child at the same time. We don't live extravagantly. We don't own lots of expensive toys. We both drive used cars. We don't take expensive vacations. If we're lucky we get back to Ireland every other year to see his parents.

But we do need 2 incomes. Perhaps this lady is in the same boat.


48 posted on 06/29/2006 1:25:18 PM PDT by elc
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To: ground_fog

It does get a little tiresome of reading some of these posts and reading how many individuals have the answers to all of everyone else's woes.


49 posted on 06/29/2006 1:25:18 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: rawhide

If the authorities would actually do their job and stop buying these lame excuses for child murder, we'd see an astonishing number of parents suddenly find their memories and tend to their children. Instead, the wonderful authorities are aiding and abetting these sad excuses for people to get away with murder...


50 posted on 06/29/2006 1:25:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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