Godless in Seattle!b'shem Y'shua
Posted on 07/01/2006 5:27:12 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
For years, seniors in the wind ensemble at Henry M. Jackson High School have selected a favorite piece of music to play during commencement.
For last month's ceremonies, the 17 students chose an instrumental version of "Ave Maria," which they had performed at a school concert in December 2004.
But their choice was vetoed by Dr. Carol Whitehead, superintendent of the Everett School District. Instead, the ensemble played a selection by British composer Gustav Holst.
Now Kathryn Nurre, an 18-year-old who played alto saxophone in the ensemble before graduating, is suing Whitehead, claiming the decision violated her First Amendment right to freedom of speech. She believes "Ave Maria" was nixed by Whitehead because she felt the song was too religious for a school-sanctioned event.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...
Ave Maria is a totally intolerant and judgemental piece of music. Such music has great possibility to offend others of different beliefs. Thank Goodness the schools stand to ensure TOLERANCE....
SARC!!!!
I resigned from a large city choir because we were to sing "Ave Maria". Since idolatry is a sin, and praying to someone other than God through Jesus is blasphemy, I just couldn't do it. (Pretty music, though.)
Beat me up if you want to... but until I see a chapter and verse saying otherwise, Mary was an exceptionally good person, but not to be worshipped. There is no worshipping of Mary in the Bible. No rosary.
File this article under, "sheesh."
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[Now you can't even have an instrumental version of a song that once related to God? Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.]
LOL. Exactly. The school official is a complete idiot. If enough cases like this start to be filed, and eventually won, the left will begin to think twice about their absurd decisions.
"I resigned from a large city choir because we were to sing "Ave Maria". Since idolatry is a sin, and praying to someone other than God through Jesus is blasphemy, I just couldn't do it. (Pretty music, though.)
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Too bad. Do you know the words to "Ave Maria?" It has nothing to do with idolatry. You may not think that asking Mary to pray for you is a good idea, but it's not idolatry.
Hail Mary, full of grace.
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
Pray for us sinners, now and and at the hour of our death.
A good portion of the words of this prayer come directly from the Bible itself.
Check this out:
LUKE 1
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: BLESSED ART THOU among women.
42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, BLESSED ART THOU among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
So, you see, there is direct Biblical reference for the words of this prayer. Too bad you quit the choir over your misunderstanding.
song was too religious for a school-sanctioned event.
I am not even religious but this is really outrageous.
This piece is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written. Religious inspired music are some of the greatest ever. An instrumental version to be considered too religious just blows my mind. Are these people who censor crazy? How can a tune without any words be too religious?
When Schubert was complimented on the piety of this song, he laughed.
Just another example of an atheist liberal with his head so far up his @ss that he is unable to see things clearly!!
What would the ACLU do if an illegal immigrant named Jesus Torres were to try to enroll at Henry M. Jackson High School?
song was too religious for a school-sanctioned event.
Folks, just watch and mark my words.
The playing of music by any composer who has ever written a religious piece of music will be against the law.
Most of the great composers of the worlds greatest music have written religiously inspired compositions and therefore any of their music could be religiously inspired and therefore against the principal of separation of church and state.
Maybe the ACLU could purge all the works of great composers so that no one has access to it. To make classics available to a secular society can be a dangerous step in the direction of state sponsored religion. All music must be banned. After all other societies do it. We must consider international law here. Just look at the Taliban.
Godless in Seattle!b'shem Y'shua
I see your point if you are a strict fundamentalist Christian, in which case: watch out for that seventh seal, and enjoy the millenium!
If you are going to tell a story tell the whole story.
Ave Maria
The Ave Maria was composed in about 1825 by Franz Schubert (1797-1828) when he was twenty-eight years old and filled with devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary. It was written for voice and piano and first Published in 1826 as Op 52 no 6. The words most commonly used with Schubert's music are not the words that the composer originally set to music. Franz Schubert actually wrote the music for an excerpt from the poem "The Lady of the Lake" by Sir Walter Scott (1771-1832), which was translated into German by Adam Storck. Schubert called his piece Ellens dritter Gesang (Ellen's third song). In this particular excerpt from the poem the heroine, Ellen Douglas, is in hiding and prays to the Virgin Mary. A letter from Schubert to his father and step-mother refers to his music to Ave Maria:
"My new songs from Scott's Lady of the Lake especially had much success. They also wondered greatly at my piety, which I expressed in a hymn to the Holy Virgin and which, it appears, grips every soul and turns it to devotion."
The original words by Sir Walter Scott are detailed below and include many references to the Latin "Ave Maria" prayer. This, no doubt, inspired an unknown person to fit the Latin "Ave Maria" prayer text to Schubert's notes, and it almost succeeds with a couple of exceptions. The adapted Latin words of Ave Maria prayer ( Hail Mary ) is now the version most commonly performed with the music of Schubert
Don't bite on her troll post. She's been here for 6 years. Has ANYONE been here that long and not seen her prejudice totally discredited? C'mon.
There is no indication in the article that Whitehead is an atheist. Maybe she didn't want Christian music or perhaps Catholic music.
Her position is so absurd. No one would recognize the music and there would be no lyrics.
I guess those are good choices for a family-friendly site but they are certainly not what came first to my mind. I probably need to work at expressing myself better without cursing.
Do you think Whitehead closes her eyes when she uses the tax payers money.(Her paycheck) It does have "In God We Trust" written on it. I swear, academic freedom is turning into a Twilight Zone episode.
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