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Weapons in outer space
The Boston Globe ^ | July 5, 2006 | William Marshall

Posted on 07/07/2006 5:03:01 AM PDT by edpc

TENSIONS IN the United Nations over space-based weapons ran to new heights recently when the United States delivered a hard-line statement on its right to develop such weapons.

Responding to repeated and increased international pressure in recent weeks, John Mohanco, US deputy director of the Office of Multilateral Nuclear and Security Affairs, said ``our government will continue to consider the possible role that space-related weapons may play in protecting our [space] assets."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisat; futurewars; miltech; proliferation; satellite; sdi; spacewarfare; technology; wrongagain
Doing that would be like watching brave Achilles unsheathing his knife and turning it on himself.

As long as Achilles keeps it away from his heel, there's no problem. People like this author were also the ones telling us SDI was a bad idea. It's a good thing we ignore them....just as we should continue doing.

1 posted on 07/07/2006 5:03:03 AM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc

The first nation with a working battle station in orbit with particle beam and laser weapons pretty much will be in control for, say 1000 years. Whose flag would you like to be painted on it?


2 posted on 07/07/2006 5:06:53 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: edpc

How would it be a bad idea? Not many other countries are even close to duplicating it.


3 posted on 07/07/2006 5:09:09 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Hopefully, it won't be the Empire's flag. If it is, we know its weakness.


4 posted on 07/07/2006 5:12:53 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: driftdiver

No kidding.....get there first and dominate.


5 posted on 07/07/2006 5:13:38 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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Instead of having a space architecture that consists of a few big satellites that are complex, expensive, and difficult to replace, the United States should move to a model consisting of many inexpensive micro-satellites that offer the same capability. Other nations are already moving in that direction.

We've already done this. Moreover, GPS, comsats, and reconnaissance assets all orbit at varying altitudes and inclinations. We have as distributed a space architecture as is technically possible.

What we really need is better situational awareness in space -- who else is up there, where they are and what they are doing in both space and time. This need preceeds space-based (or even ground-based) weaponry. But to unilaterally give away our option to deploy space weapons would be foolish beyond measure. Needless to say, that's exactly what a Democrat administration would do.

6 posted on 07/07/2006 5:27:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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What we really need is better situational awareness in space -- who else is up there, where they are and what they are doing in both space and time.

I am happy to say that we have already been there and done that. There is a wide ground-based network of telescopes to monitor orbital space. In fact, there is a new, open, program in the works to place cameras on satellites to scan orbital space.

7 posted on 07/07/2006 5:41:31 AM PDT by jimtorr
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This may piss off all you "one-worlders",but lets declare space off limits to any type of weapons except our own and have done with it.

Everyone else can just pound sand.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 5:48:50 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: jimtorr

Ground-based assets work fine for low Earth orbit, but a lot of important satellites are much higher, in the space between Earth and Moon. We need space-based monitoring (and ultimately, access) to those higher orbits.


9 posted on 07/07/2006 5:58:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Cincinatus; CBart95

Odd how those that wistfully declare "weapons and war should be kept out of the heavens" usually don't have any faith in God or the concept of Heaven.


10 posted on 07/07/2006 6:01:00 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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Shirley ,you jest.

He helps those who helps themselves.

You can co-exist with Al Queda satellites in another universe...we will do otherwise.


11 posted on 07/07/2006 6:08:35 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: CBart95
I am not sure what you think I meant....but having al Qaeda satellites wasn't even close to it. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
12 posted on 07/07/2006 6:11:30 AM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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N. Korea's missile escapade should show the world we need space based defense systems. We can hardly depend on the impotent UN to do anything to protect us.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 6:40:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Whose flag would you like to be painted on it?

Excellent point. My first thought when I heard China announce it's aggressive plan to go to the moon was that they would be wanting to militarize it. I'm certain that is what is driving our own return more than using it as a jumping off point to go to Mars.

14 posted on 07/07/2006 6:42:57 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Cincinatus

Well said. Knowledge of what is in space is key. And controlling space is also critical. If we have the ability to determine who can put systems in space, we can prevent the nutjobs like Iran, Korea, etc. from threatening us from space.

SDI type weapons in space are purely defensive. Your not going to take out cities or kill millions of people with a space based laser (death star advocates aside).


15 posted on 07/07/2006 7:11:56 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: The Great RJ
I can't see how the N Korean missile escapade, a complete and total farce, embarrassment and failure,could possibly be used as an argument for the development of space based weapons. Wait... I am not against space based weapons in fact the reverse...you do what you have to do to defend yourselves but you have to maintain some 'credibility'.Lets face reality here the North Koreans are no threat ..it would take 30 years for them to catch up with current USA space capability and thats only if the Chinese allow it and they won't. China's enjoying a real economic boom and want it desperatly to continue and would soon slap N Korea down.

I suspect there may be other reasons for developing space based weapons
16 posted on 07/07/2006 7:24:36 AM PDT by Brit1 ( Not by Strength by Guile.)
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>> I suspect there may be other reasons for developing space based weapons <<

And what may they be????


17 posted on 07/07/2006 8:18:05 AM PDT by sd-joe
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The proposed new ventures into space and whatever we may find there.....

Plus the technological advances gained from such programmes .
18 posted on 07/07/2006 10:29:39 AM PDT by Brit1 ( Not by Strength by Guile.)
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