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Up to 10 accused of assault of girl, 11 (Junior college football players)
The Fresno Bee ^ | 7-10-06 | Tim Eberly

Posted on 07/10/2006 6:11:02 AM PDT by Enterprise

Fresno police say as many as 10 men — most of them current or former football players at local junior colleges — sexually assaulted an 11-year-old girl.

Two of the men, Mackey Lee Davis, 20, and Eddie Scott, 19, were arrested Saturday night at the west-central Fresno apartment where the assault allegedly occurred. They face two felony sex charges, including child molestation."

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: deathpenaltyforrape; football; fresno; juniorcollege; molestation; rape; reedley; studentathletes; youngscholars; yutes
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"Police Chief Jerry Dyer said the current or former players are from Reedley College and Fresno City College."

So what's the problem. Suspend the entire team, cancel their season, call in the Black Panthers as counselors. Also, here's a link to a TV station which has this story on their site.

KMPH news site link

1 posted on 07/10/2006 6:11:05 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

Alert the Duke agitators!


2 posted on 07/10/2006 6:13:19 AM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Bogey78O

If nothing else, indict them and set their bail at 400,000 dollars. Worry about evidence later.


3 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:56 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

If true, these cretins should spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 6:16:38 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Howlin; Perdogg; Locomotive Breath; Peach

This might be interesting to watch for parallels, and/or lack thereof.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 6:17:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Enterprise

We should all notice the LACK of a certain type of information about all parties concerned.


6 posted on 07/10/2006 6:18:32 AM PDT by Winston Smith
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To: FreedomPoster

"This might be interesting to watch for parallels, and/or lack thereof."

Not that this should be a racial issue, but if want to look for "parallels" we have to know the race of the accused and the victim.


7 posted on 07/10/2006 6:18:54 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Winston Smith

"We should all notice the LACK of a certain type of information about all parties concerned."

Noticed that too.
I wonder....


8 posted on 07/10/2006 6:21:26 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: MineralMan
If true, these cretins should spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison.

Why?
Isn't this (and has been for 30 years or so) the normal path to becoming "professional" (duh!) multimillionaire footbal players?

Ask me why I detest professional sports...

< /sarc >

9 posted on 07/10/2006 6:21:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Enterprise

If guilty, no mercy.


10 posted on 07/10/2006 6:23:13 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Winston Smith

On the news broadcast last night, two photos were shown of black males. However in today's Bee, there were no photos. I'm shocked, just shocked!


11 posted on 07/10/2006 6:23:39 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

On second thought this shouldn't be compared the Duke. There's the possibility that a rape could have taken place here.


12 posted on 07/10/2006 6:23:53 AM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Tribune7; MineralMan
"If guilty, no mercy."

Well now, don't forget, this IS Kaleefornia, and anything is possible! (I wonder if Bill O'Reilly will air this story.)

13 posted on 07/10/2006 6:25:47 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Bogey78O

And I doubt the 11 year old is a hooker.


14 posted on 07/10/2006 6:28:10 AM PDT by GBA
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To: GBA

No, but it sounds like she is well on her way.


15 posted on 07/10/2006 6:29:45 AM PDT by FearlessFreep (Excuse me. But are those your legs or are you riding a chicken?)
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To: Enterprise

Castration: does a rapist good.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 6:30:46 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: Bogey78O
"On second thought this shouldn't be compared the Duke. There's the possibility that a rape could have taken place here."

You know, that's an EXCELLENT point!

17 posted on 07/10/2006 6:31:07 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

That'll come out soon enough. Or not, and the whole thing just get swept into a media black hole. Which will tell us a lot, too.


18 posted on 07/10/2006 6:31:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: GBA
And I doubt the 11 year old is a hooker.

Wouldn't matter. An 11 year old can't consent.

19 posted on 07/10/2006 6:32:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Winston Smith

California papers only describe ethnicity of perpetrators when they are white, so the conclusion is simple.


20 posted on 07/10/2006 6:33:29 AM PDT by Baynative (Peace on Earth? ~ Not while there are Muslims on Earth!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"Castration: does a rapist good."

That could be as many as 10 sets of dingleberries when this case is through. But this is Kaleefornia, and that won't happen.

21 posted on 07/10/2006 6:34:04 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Winston Smith

I have no idea what would BeLACK ing in that article..........


22 posted on 07/10/2006 6:36:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: MineralMan

Forget prison. HANG them at dawn the day after they are convicted! Vermin such as this shouldn't be allowed to live and be supported by taxpayers.


23 posted on 07/10/2006 6:45:28 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Least anyone reading this thread and its rant have any misperception, the anger here is NOT about the possiblity of black on white crime -- it is in large part about the media bias in reporting white on black crime vs. the reporting on black on white crime. It is also about the way certain parts of the Durham community went out of its way to inject race as an issue in the Lacross case where none apparently existed.

I take that back, race was and is an issue, but in that it is the white athletes who have been held to a different standard because of their race.


24 posted on 07/10/2006 6:45:50 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Bogey78O
On second thought this shouldn't be compared the Duke. There's the possibility that a rape could have taken place here.

Yep, we have no idea yet if this case is totally without merit, unlike some other case. This could have been a brutal crime where heads should roll.

25 posted on 07/10/2006 6:48:47 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Enterprise

It's obvious what the media is doing here.
This will be minimized and ignored. Their actions will be excused. After all, football players are the "oppressed" and lacross players are the "oppressors".


26 posted on 07/10/2006 6:49:01 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism="liberalism"=socialism="progressivism"=brain of a flatworm)
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To: Enterprise
"She didn't look 11. She was a cute little girl."
If these idiots can't tell the difference between an 11 year old girl and an 17 year old girl, then they are too stupid to be out in the general population and need to be locked up for their own safety.
Pedophiles, all of them - and they need to be tagged as someone not to be trusted around children. Hopefully their career will be ruined - and it is not a shame that it is ruined.

Cordially,
GE
27 posted on 07/10/2006 6:51:34 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Enterprise
From the article: ... the girl ran away from a northeast Fresno group home days ago and knew someone at the players' apartment. She went there voluntarily....

Poor kid never had a chance. Can't help but think her mom's a mess, and she doesn't know her dad.

28 posted on 07/10/2006 6:53:27 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: GrandEagle
"If these idiots can't tell the difference between an 11 year old girl and an 17 year old girl, then they are too stupid to be out in the general population and need to be locked up for their own safety."

Either that or hire them as Airport Security Screeners.

29 posted on 07/10/2006 6:54:33 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: r9etb

That's my take also. This little girl has no chance. Her chance at a decent life was over before it started.


30 posted on 07/10/2006 6:56:14 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Agree wholeheartedly.


31 posted on 07/10/2006 6:57:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: GrandEagle
If these idiots can't tell the difference between an 11 year old girl and an 17 year old girl....

Generally speaking you're probably correct.

However, there are some girls who develop very early. Moreover, a kid can tart herself up to look a lot older than she really is. When you couple that with a bunch of guys thinking with their little heads, you get something like this.

32 posted on 07/10/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
"It's obvious what the media is doing here. This will be minimized and ignored. Their actions will be excused. After all, football players are the "oppressed" and lacross players are the "oppressors"."

In the past, this incident would have been largely ignored, proving your point with ease. Now thanks to FreeRepublic, this just went worldwide! It's hard for the press ot excuse and hide now! (But they'll keep trying anyway)

33 posted on 07/10/2006 7:00:23 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise
I knew a girl in Junior high who had phony id to get in to one of the local pickup bars. Although this story seems to have merit As it appears th woman-child told some one immediately after it happened.
34 posted on 07/10/2006 7:02:19 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Enterprise

"For the time they've been here, they haven't thrown any wild parties," she said. "They haven't been doing anything crazy. They stay in the apartment. … I feel bad for them. That's just their life thrown away for something that childish."


35 posted on 07/10/2006 7:05:20 AM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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" 'Nuh-uh, I'm 17, fitting to be 18 in a month or two,'" Smith said."

That is apparently what the girl told them...

Ebonics --

Urbandictionary.com --

876 up, 288 down

"A poor excuse for a failure to grasp the basics of english. When in doubt, throw an "izzle" sound in the middle of any word of just string random thoughts together and insinuate that they actually mean something. When backed into a corner, you can always claim that it has something to do with a sort of symbolism or is a defining trait that makes your race great, versus own up to the fact that it is essentially laziness at it's finest.

Plim-plizzle, my nizzle, don' foget bouts tha six-fo, chuch, dawg up in da hood, chilly my grilly. fo sho.

******************

I remember checking into a Houston hotel - there was a clerk that warned me of a girl in the hotel that went around telling men she was 17 but she was really 12.

She was there with Grandparents, long term stay for Houston Flooding.

I ran into her - I interviewed her - poor kid said she was molested at some very early age - I think she said 5 yrs old.

The problem of evil - it's vast and ever present.

36 posted on 07/10/2006 7:06:16 AM PDT by chris_ab
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To: OmahaFields

I was struck by that quote as well. Makes it sound like gang rape is OK as long as you're not into anything worse. This neighborhood is a case study in Defining Deviancy Down.


37 posted on 07/10/2006 7:09:17 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: chris_ab

When young children are molested, they tend to become very sexually active in their teens.


38 posted on 07/10/2006 7:10:43 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: proudofthesouth

"Forget prison. HANG them at dawn the day after they are convicted! Vermin such as this shouldn't be allowed to live and be supported by taxpayers."

To do that, you're going to have to move to California and start working to change the death penalty laws in that state.

Right now, rape does not carry the death penalty in California, so my suggestion is about the best that can be hoped for in this case.


39 posted on 07/10/2006 7:11:46 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: madprof98

At least one of they guys girlfriend ran out to call police.


40 posted on 07/10/2006 7:12:08 AM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: the_daug

As I understand it, there was one encounter that was "consensual." Then, others took advantage of her and she was raped vaginally and anally. There was some vaginal bleeding during the hospital examination.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 7:14:56 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise
"She was like, 'Nuh-uh, I'm 17, fitting to be 18 in a month or two,'" Smith said.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In the South, folks idiomatically say, "fixin' to", when referring to a future action. Is this "fittin to"...

California-speak?

Ebonics?

A sub-normal mentality symptom?

And ...is it the actual words of the victim -- or verbal coloration by "Smith"?

Also, a bunch of "teenagers" gave up "their" female companion to a bunch of college students -- without a protest? Or was that the victim's choice -- at first...?

Very strange...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Methinks there is much more to this story...

FWIW, when I went back to the Fresno Bee to check facts, it required a login. Is the first view free?

42 posted on 07/10/2006 7:20:35 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: r9etb
When you couple that with a bunch of guys thinking with their little heads, you get something like this.
I've got a 10 year old. My home is frequently inundated with 9, 10, 11, and 12 year olds; some "developed" early, some not.
If they can't tell the difference, I'll stand by me comments.
We are not talking about 14yr - 17yr"mix-ups here.

Cordially,
GE
43 posted on 07/10/2006 7:21:24 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: r9etb
stand by me MY
OOPS!
44 posted on 07/10/2006 7:22:38 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: OmahaFields

Jealousy?


45 posted on 07/10/2006 7:25:30 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Enterprise
Either that or hire them as Airport Security Screeners.

they could probably get a job working for the UN too.
46 posted on 07/10/2006 7:26:19 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Enterprise

Let me see, only 11 and already a runaway from a group home?
That alone says a bunch. Trouble with a capital T.


47 posted on 07/10/2006 7:27:21 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Enterprise

That answers half the equation. How did I know before even reading your post? Rhetorical question of course.


48 posted on 07/10/2006 7:29:39 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: GrandEagle

You are generally correct. However, when I was around 18 there was a young girl of 12 in our church who REALLY looked like she was 20. And a stunning 20. Visiting young men had to be warned off her in advance.

Lots of the posts here seem to assume that what happened would have been okay if she weren't so young. It's immoral and illegal to rape anyone, regardless of age.

(Although the age makes it much worse.)


49 posted on 07/10/2006 7:41:16 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: FearlessFreep

What the heck is that supposed to mean?


50 posted on 07/10/2006 7:44:02 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proud supporter of our Troops and President GW!!!)
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